Hd4850 + Epu

Pinchy · Oct 5, 2008, 01:56 PM

Couple of questions with my 4850.

Firstly, I just got an asus p5q-e. Now I noticed with the EPU, the GPU support list only supports ASUS cards. Is it really only ASUS cards or will my HIS 4850 be fine?

Now if I need my 4850 to be ASUS...can I just flash the card to an ASUS BIOS or do I need to worry about differences in memory and such?

Also a side question...my card is idling at like 80*C. Is this normal lol? Fan speed is only at 25%. Havent checked load temps.

DOM · Oct 5, 2008, 01:59 PM

80c wow turn up the fan dude lol

idk about the epu

Pinchy · Oct 5, 2008, 02:01 PM

Yeah thats what I thought

..

I only checked GPU-z tonight. What prog will turn the fan up?

Also I got no CCC installed. Does Powerplay need CCC to work?

JrRacinFan · Oct 5, 2008, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinchy

Yeah thats what I thought

..

I only checked GPU-z tonight. What prog will turn the fan up?

The new 8.10 Catalyst driver suite has fan profiles in CCC.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinchy

Also I got no CCC installed. Does Powerplay need CCC to work?

I'm iffy on it but pretty sure that's a no.

Oh also as far as brand goes, you could just use RBE and switch the vendor. Anyone know whats so special about the Asus cards?

Widjaja · Oct 5, 2008, 02:24 PM

There have been reviews where the card is idling above 80degC at stock speeds.
After gaming my HD4850 will eventually idle about 76-78degC.
If I haven't been gaming it will creep up to 73-74degC by itself.
It's summer here and room temp is about 28-30degC.
My average max load is 94degC.

Don't know anything about the EPU sorry.

ShadowFold · Oct 5, 2008, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

The new 8.10 Catalyst driver suite has fan profiles in CCC.

I'm iffy on it but pretty sure that's a no.

Oh also as far as brand goes, you could just use RBE and switch the vendor. Anyone know whats so special about the Asus cards?

ASUS has some awesome GPU programs that will change the fan speed and overclock it. It only works if it detects it as a ASUS GPU.

ghost101 · Oct 5, 2008, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinchy

Also a side question...my card is idling at like 80*C. Is this normal lol? Fan speed is only at 25%. Havent checked load temps.

Yep its normal. Its simply a preference for silence over lower temps. It shouldnt move too much under load though as the fan ramps up. However, some people prefer a more aggressive fan profile where the minimum speed is higher (lower idle temps) and it ramps up quicker (lower load temps). Obviously this is more noiy and in a quiet system you can here the fan speeding up and down which isnt pleasant.

Also powerplay works by itself. Its coded into the bios to switch clocks in different types of situations (load).

Pinchy · Oct 5, 2008, 03:15 PM

That all sounds pretty sweet

Thx for the replies!

Ill be installing the P5Q when I wake up (in about 8 hours). Ill get back to you all and tell if it (EPU) works, incase anyone else has the same prob.

And yeah JR, as Shadow said, ASUS includes a really nice software bundle which is pretty handy if you dont want to use other programs on the net. Only downfall to them is they only work on ASUS Cards lol.

JrRacinFan · Oct 5, 2008, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinchy

And yeah JR, as Shadow said, ASUS includes a really nice software bundle which is pretty handy if you dont want to use other programs on the net. Only downfall to them is they only work on ASUS Cards lol.

That's what I was thinking but wasn't 100% positive. Thanks for confirming Shadow!

Pinchy · Oct 6, 2008, 01:50 PM

Changed to ASUS vendor in RBE and got nothing.

Looking for an ASUS EAH4850/HTDI/512M Bios

Pinchy · Oct 8, 2008, 05:56 AM

Flashed to EAH4850 BIOS found in BIOS collection and it still didnt work. I was like wtf

...then realised I had to install smart doctor.

Installed smart doctor and EPU is now working with the VGA. The computer thinks its an EAH4850.

Not sure if smart doctor would have worked if I simply changed the vendor in RBE, as I didnt try.

Zanga · Oct 8, 2008, 06:12 AM

How does the EPU affect the video card? EPU should work on the MB using different phases for the CPU to save energy adapted to the changes in clock speed.
I saw on Asus site that smart doctor now support EPU, but it does what ?

Pinchy · Oct 8, 2008, 06:13 AM

EPU uses software to control the seperate engines (cpu/gpu/nb/ram/hdd/fans)

Zanga · Oct 8, 2008, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinchy

EPU uses software to control the seperate engines (cpu/gpu/nb/ram/hdd/fans)

Didn't know of the ram, hdd, fans because all this works on the EPU II - 6 Engine.
On my P5K-PRO MB there is EPU I with AI GEAR 3, so no go for other subsystems.

Pinchy · Oct 8, 2008, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zanga

Didn't know of the ram, hdd, fans because all this works on the EPU II - 6 Engine.
On my P5K-PRO MB there is EPU I with AI GEAR 3, so no go for other subsystems.

Ah right.

Just an FYI (if you dont already know), on the P43 there is only the EPU 4 engine, which only has CPU/GPU/Hard drives/fans.

Oct 5, 2008, 01:56 PM	#1
Pinchy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 4,650 (1.80/day) Thanks: 302 Thanked 360 Times in 344 Posts System Specs	Hd4850 + Epu Couple of questions with my 4850. Firstly, I just got an asus p5q-e. Now I noticed with the EPU, the GPU support list only supports ASUS cards. Is it really only ASUS cards or will my HIS 4850 be fine? Now if I need my 4850 to be ASUS...can I just flash the card to an ASUS BIOS or do I need to worry about differences in memory and such? Also a side question...my card is idling at like 80C. Is this normal lol? Fan speed is only at 25%. Havent checked load temps. __________________ mATX rig:* TT Lanbox Lite, GA-G33M-DS2R, q9300, 4GB G.Skill Pi PC8000, 2x640GB Samsung F1's in RAID 0, LG 20x DVD+/RW, HIS IceQ HD4670 512MB, Gigabyte G-Power PRO, TT 450W TR2 RX Modular PSU HTPC: i-Cute iBox, GA-MA780GM-S2H, 4850e, 2GB G.Skill PC6400, 1x640GB WD SE16, Onboard HD3200, D-link XtremeN PCIe, Leadtek WinFast DVR3100 H Tuner, 450W Vantec PSU Server: Custom made case, EPIA Mini-ITX mobo, 1GHz VIA, 1GB PC2700 SO-DIMM, 1TB WD, Gigabit PCI LAN card, 60W 12V AC adapter

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Oct 5, 2008, 01:59 PM	#2
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Oct 5, 2008, 02:01 PM	#3
Pinchy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 4,650 (1.80/day) Thanks: 302 Thanked 360 Times in 344 Posts System Specs	Yeah thats what I thought .. I only checked GPU-z tonight. What prog will turn the fan up? Also I got no CCC installed. Does Powerplay need CCC to work? __________________ mATX rig: TT Lanbox Lite, GA-G33M-DS2R, q9300, 4GB G.Skill Pi PC8000, 2x640GB Samsung F1's in RAID 0, LG 20x DVD+/RW, HIS IceQ HD4670 512MB, Gigabyte G-Power PRO, TT 450W TR2 RX Modular PSU HTPC: i-Cute iBox, GA-MA780GM-S2H, 4850e, 2GB G.Skill PC6400, 1x640GB WD SE16, Onboard HD3200, D-link XtremeN PCIe, Leadtek WinFast DVR3100 H Tuner, 450W Vantec PSU Server: Custom made case, EPIA Mini-ITX mobo, 1GHz VIA, 1GB PC2700 SO-DIMM, 1TB WD, Gigabit PCI LAN card, 60W 12V AC adapter

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Oct 5, 2008, 02:24 PM	#5
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Oct 5, 2008, 03:15 PM	#8
Pinchy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 4,650 (1.80/day) Thanks: 302 Thanked 360 Times in 344 Posts System Specs	That all sounds pretty sweet Thx for the replies! Ill be installing the P5Q when I wake up (in about 8 hours). Ill get back to you all and tell if it (EPU) works, incase anyone else has the same prob. And yeah JR, as Shadow said, ASUS includes a really nice software bundle which is pretty handy if you dont want to use other programs on the net. Only downfall to them is they only work on ASUS Cards lol. __________________ mATX rig: TT Lanbox Lite, GA-G33M-DS2R, q9300, 4GB G.Skill Pi PC8000, 2x640GB Samsung F1's in RAID 0, LG 20x DVD+/RW, HIS IceQ HD4670 512MB, Gigabyte G-Power PRO, TT 450W TR2 RX Modular PSU HTPC: i-Cute iBox, GA-MA780GM-S2H, 4850e, 2GB G.Skill PC6400, 1x640GB WD SE16, Onboard HD3200, D-link XtremeN PCIe, Leadtek WinFast DVR3100 H Tuner, 450W Vantec PSU Server: Custom made case, EPIA Mini-ITX mobo, 1GHz VIA, 1GB PC2700 SO-DIMM, 1TB WD, Gigabit PCI LAN card, 60W 12V AC adapter

Oct 6, 2008, 01:50 PM	#10
Pinchy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 4,650 (1.80/day) Thanks: 302 Thanked 360 Times in 344 Posts System Specs	Changed to ASUS vendor in RBE and got nothing. Looking for an ASUS EAH4850/HTDI/512M Bios __________________ mATX rig: TT Lanbox Lite, GA-G33M-DS2R, q9300, 4GB G.Skill Pi PC8000, 2x640GB Samsung F1's in RAID 0, LG 20x DVD+/RW, HIS IceQ HD4670 512MB, Gigabyte G-Power PRO, TT 450W TR2 RX Modular PSU HTPC: i-Cute iBox, GA-MA780GM-S2H, 4850e, 2GB G.Skill PC6400, 1x640GB WD SE16, Onboard HD3200, D-link XtremeN PCIe, Leadtek WinFast DVR3100 H Tuner, 450W Vantec PSU Server: Custom made case, EPIA Mini-ITX mobo, 1GHz VIA, 1GB PC2700 SO-DIMM, 1TB WD, Gigabit PCI LAN card, 60W 12V AC adapter

Oct 8, 2008, 05:56 AM	#11
Pinchy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 4,650 (1.80/day) Thanks: 302 Thanked 360 Times in 344 Posts System Specs	Flashed to EAH4850 BIOS found in BIOS collection and it still didnt work. I was like wtf ...then realised I had to install smart doctor. Installed smart doctor and EPU is now working with the VGA. The computer thinks its an EAH4850. Not sure if smart doctor would have worked if I simply changed the vendor in RBE, as I didnt try. __________________ mATX rig: TT Lanbox Lite, GA-G33M-DS2R, q9300, 4GB G.Skill Pi PC8000, 2x640GB Samsung F1's in RAID 0, LG 20x DVD+/RW, HIS IceQ HD4670 512MB, Gigabyte G-Power PRO, TT 450W TR2 RX Modular PSU HTPC: i-Cute iBox, GA-MA780GM-S2H, 4850e, 2GB G.Skill PC6400, 1x640GB WD SE16, Onboard HD3200, D-link XtremeN PCIe, Leadtek WinFast DVR3100 H Tuner, 450W Vantec PSU Server: Custom made case, EPIA Mini-ITX mobo, 1GHz VIA, 1GB PC2700 SO-DIMM, 1TB WD, Gigabit PCI LAN card, 60W 12V AC adapter

Oct 8, 2008, 06:12 AM	#12
Zanga Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 75 (0.04/day) Thanks: 9 Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts System Specs	How does the EPU affect the video card? EPU should work on the MB using different phases for the CPU to save energy adapted to the changes in clock speed. I saw on Asus site that smart doctor now support EPU, but it does what ?

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Oct 8, 2008, 06:13 AM	#13
Pinchy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 4,650 (1.80/day) Thanks: 302 Thanked 360 Times in 344 Posts System Specs	EPU uses software to control the seperate engines (cpu/gpu/nb/ram/hdd/fans) __________________ mATX rig: TT Lanbox Lite, GA-G33M-DS2R, q9300, 4GB G.Skill Pi PC8000, 2x640GB Samsung F1's in RAID 0, LG 20x DVD+/RW, HIS IceQ HD4670 512MB, Gigabyte G-Power PRO, TT 450W TR2 RX Modular PSU HTPC: i-Cute iBox, GA-MA780GM-S2H, 4850e, 2GB G.Skill PC6400, 1x640GB WD SE16, Onboard HD3200, D-link XtremeN PCIe, Leadtek WinFast DVR3100 H Tuner, 450W Vantec PSU Server: Custom made case, EPIA Mini-ITX mobo, 1GHz VIA, 1GB PC2700 SO-DIMM, 1TB WD, Gigabit PCI LAN card, 60W 12V AC adapter

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