PC for my brother.

zithe · Oct 13, 2008, 12:45 AM

My brother wanted to build a budget gaming PC. I'm trying to stay under 600 shipped.
Here's my list: https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/M...spx?ID=9133692

I wanted to know what you guys think. He plays games like Cossacks II, and older RTS, and I added the 9600 in case he gets into something a little heavier.

He wants XP because some of his games won't run on my Vista machine. No changing that. =P

ShadowFold · Oct 13, 2008, 12:50 AM

That psu doesn't have a PCI-E connector
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371006

Heres a far better cpu cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835233003

zithe · Oct 13, 2008, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ShadowFold

That psu doesn't have a PCI-E connector
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371006

Heres a far better cpu cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835233003

Didn't notice the PSU thing. Thanks. I feel retarded. XD

You sure it's better? I own an ACF7P and it's totally awesome. I'm idling in the 30s.

Castiel · Oct 13, 2008, 12:59 AM

Looks good. Hey check out Geeks.com, they have some good stuff for a budget system.

ShadowFold · Oct 13, 2008, 12:59 AM

I load in the mid 30's with a s1283 lol trust me its way better. Make sure you pick up a retention bracket up for it too so its easier to install.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835233019

zithe · Oct 13, 2008, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ShadowFold

I load in the mid 30's with a s1283 lol trust me its way better. Make sure you pick up a retention bracket up for it too so its easier to install.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835233019

I'm happy with the pins. I don't see why anyone has problems with them...

I found the retention bracket to be more annoying. Thanks for the help! I'll grab the xigmatek. I'm sure he'll love a silent cooler.

ShadowFold · Oct 13, 2008, 01:02 AM

I run it with no fan using my stock settings because it loads with 36c with no fan but under 3.2ghz-3.8ghz I have a silverstone fan on it that keeps it at about 39c after 12 hours of prime.

zithe · Oct 13, 2008, 01:10 AM

I changed the card to a 3870. I don't want him to have problems with an unstable card. He'd be better off with a nice warranty anyways. XD

blkhogan · Oct 13, 2008, 01:41 AM

Good budget build there. I would really up that psu though. That is the base of your system dont skimp on it.

ShadowFold · Oct 13, 2008, 01:46 AM

Antec Earthwatts are some of the best PSU's on the market and 430w is enough for single card setup.

blkhogan · Oct 13, 2008, 01:47 AM

I've had 2 of them. Both quit after about a year. One has been RMA'ed for about 2 months and still dont have it back.

zithe · Oct 13, 2008, 01:50 AM

How about this? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817703015

blkhogan · Oct 13, 2008, 01:51 AM

Personaly, I think that would be a better choice

JrRacinFan · Oct 13, 2008, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by zithe

How about this? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817703015

Nice find Zithe!!!

zithe · Oct 13, 2008, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

Nice find Zithe!!!

Thanks. We ended up dropping a lot of stuff due to budget reasons (He got mad about individual things costing as much as they did. Don't blame him)

Now it's an e2180 + 3870 512mb. He should be extremely happy if he's going to be playing stronghold 2. For him, this is extremely future proofed.

niko084 · Oct 13, 2008, 03:38 AM

Wouldn't waste the money on the cooler to be honest being that board wont overclock worth a jack crap.

Other than that I would say it looks good, personally I might get a 4670 instead being its almost on par at most resolutions and draws less power, runs a lot cooler. But its about the same price so that's kinda up to you.

zithe · Oct 13, 2008, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niko084

Wouldn't waste the money on the cooler to be honest being that board wont overclock worth a jack crap.

Other than that I would say it looks good, personally I might get a 4670 instead being its almost on par at most resolutions and draws less power, runs a lot cooler. But its about the same price so that's kinda up to you.

The xigmatek is just to reduce noise.
I'm worried about support for the 4670. I heard the drivers are bad at the moment and I'm not sure what monitor my brother is getting.

niko084 · Oct 13, 2008, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by zithe

The xigmatek is just to reduce noise.
I'm worried about support for the 4670. I heard the drivers are bad at the moment and I'm not sure what monitor my brother is getting.

Fair enough on the noise side...

The 4670 isn't supported directly right now, it will be very soon as its the entry level gaming card, there will be tons of large box companies that will be shipping systems with it. Gateway, Dell etc...

Monitor size could make the difference though, the 3870 starts to walk it 1680x1050+

zithe · Oct 13, 2008, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by niko084

Fair enough on the noise side...

The 4670 isn't supported directly right now, it will be very soon as its the entry level gaming card, there will be tons of large box companies that will be shipping systems with it. Gateway, Dell etc...

Monitor size could make the difference though, the 3870 starts to walk it 1680x1050+

I was trying to push that resolution. He likes the way 1280x1024 looks, but I told him about increasing DPI and it may have sparked interest.

EDIT: He's going to buy this in early december, he says. If the 3870 still is sold on newegg, he'll grab it. If not, I'll find something else. (Maybe a 4850 or that 4830 I'm hearing about?)

Fitseries3 · Oct 13, 2008, 05:34 AM

buy my 3870 please.

zithe · Oct 13, 2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fitseries3

buy my 3870 please.

Nothing against you. I honestly would, but he's against using paypal and he wants something out of the warehouse. I could try asking him and I'll see what he says.

Fitseries3 · Oct 13, 2008, 03:30 PM

mine came from the diamond warehouse and i have great feedback. i can do money order if paypal worries him that much.

zithe · Oct 13, 2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by fitseries3

mine came from the diamond warehouse and i have great feedback. i can do money order if paypal worries him that much.

Does diamond do warranties? This PC has to last, mostly unchanged, for a few years.

Fitseries3 · Oct 13, 2008, 03:32 PM

diamond has a great warranty. the RMA process only took 6 days.

zithe · Oct 13, 2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by fitseries3

diamond has a great warranty. the RMA process only took 6 days.

How long does the warranty last?

Since they're very close in price, he'll probably go for the seller that he knows more about. Please don't get your hopes up real high. I had to argue with him to get any 3870. He thought the 4670 was pushing it cost-wise.

Oct 13, 2008, 12:45 AM	#1
zithe Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: North Chili, NY Posts: 2,646 (1.47/day) Thanks: 220 Thanked 350 Times in 310 Posts System Specs	PC for my brother. My brother wanted to build a budget gaming PC. I'm trying to stay under 600 shipped. Here's my list: https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/M...spx?ID=9133692 I wanted to know what you guys think. He plays games like Cossacks II, and older RTS, and I added the 9600 in case he gets into something a little heavier. He wants XP because some of his games won't run on my Vista machine. No changing that. =P __________________ “Fudzilla Confirms its fake!!! ]” -SammyHayabuza

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CRT/LCD Model:	LG 23" 1920x1080
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Oct 13, 2008, 12:50 AM	#2
ShadowFold Eligible for custom title Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 12,855 (6.50/day) Thanks: 1,381 Thanked 1,681 Times in 1,498 Posts System Specs	That psu doesn't have a PCI-E connector http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371006 Heres a far better cpu cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835233003

Oct 13, 2008, 12:59 AM	#4
Castiel Join Date: May 2008 Location: Grapevine,TX/ Tyler,TX Posts: 2,447 (1.33/day) Thanks: 297 Thanked 307 Times in 247 Posts System Specs	Looks good. Hey check out Geeks.com, they have some good stuff for a budget system.

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ShadowFold Eligible for custom title Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 12,855 (6.50/day) Thanks: 1,381 Thanked 1,681 Times in 1,498 Posts System Specs	I run it with no fan using my stock settings because it loads with 36c with no fan but under 3.2ghz-3.8ghz I have a silverstone fan on it that keeps it at about 39c after 12 hours of prime.

Oct 13, 2008, 01:10 AM	#8
zithe Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: North Chili, NY Posts: 2,646 (1.47/day) Thanks: 220 Thanked 350 Times in 310 Posts System Specs	I changed the card to a 3870. I don't want him to have problems with an unstable card. He'd be better off with a nice warranty anyways. XD __________________ “Fudzilla Confirms its fake!!! ]” -SammyHayabuza

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blkhogan Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: If I told u.. I'd have to kill u Posts: 1,845 (0.87/day) Thanks: 823 Thanked 648 Times in 446 Posts System Specs	Good budget build there. I would really up that psu though. That is the base of your system dont skimp on it.

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ShadowFold Eligible for custom title Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 12,855 (6.50/day) Thanks: 1,381 Thanked 1,681 Times in 1,498 Posts System Specs	Antec Earthwatts are some of the best PSU's on the market and 430w is enough for single card setup.

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blkhogan Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: If I told u.. I'd have to kill u Posts: 1,845 (0.87/day) Thanks: 823 Thanked 648 Times in 446 Posts System Specs	I've had 2 of them. Both quit after about a year. One has been RMA'ed for about 2 months and still dont have it back.

Oct 13, 2008, 01:50 AM	#12
zithe Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: North Chili, NY Posts: 2,646 (1.47/day) Thanks: 220 Thanked 350 Times in 310 Posts System Specs	How about this? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817703015 __________________ “Fudzilla Confirms its fake!!! ]” -SammyHayabuza

Oct 13, 2008, 01:51 AM	#13
blkhogan Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: If I told u.. I'd have to kill u Posts: 1,845 (0.87/day) Thanks: 823 Thanked 648 Times in 446 Posts System Specs	Personaly, I think that would be a better choice

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niko084 Eligible for custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Saint Paul, Minnesota Posts: 6,387 (2.70/day) Thanks: 190 Thanked 739 Times in 599 Posts System Specs	Wouldn't waste the money on the cooler to be honest being that board wont overclock worth a jack crap. Other than that I would say it looks good, personally I might get a 4670 instead being its almost on par at most resolutions and draws less power, runs a lot cooler. But its about the same price so that's kinda up to you. __________________ This electronic post is encrypted in the 'English language method', any attempt to decipher meaning from these symbols is a violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998. This includes, but is not limited to: interpreting the symbols through use of biological, visual decryption devices, translating the symbols into another language encryption scheme, and digital processing the symbols into a form conducive to oral interpretation. HWBOT HEATWARE

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Fitseries3 Eleet Hardware Junkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 14,993 (7.29/day) Thanks: 4,318 Thanked 3,285 Times in 2,186 Posts System Specs	mine came from the diamond warehouse and i have great feedback. i can do money order if paypal worries him that much.

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Fitseries3 Eleet Hardware Junkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 14,993 (7.29/day) Thanks: 4,318 Thanked 3,285 Times in 2,186 Posts System Specs	diamond has a great warranty. the RMA process only took 6 days.

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