Upgrade advice...

Gilletter · Dec 10, 2008, 04:12 AM

So I've narrowed it down to this combo if I have enough left over. thoughts and opinions??? TIA

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.147958

this cpu if I DON'T

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103773

video card with either option

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121272

video card if I can get even more money from xmas/birthday money

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121276

Gilletter · Dec 11, 2008, 12:11 AM

anybody have any opinion on these upgrades??? I need some input, maybe if someone has suggestion on different parts...

kysg · Dec 11, 2008, 12:18 AM

Your not moving to phenom II right????

if not, then a phenom 9600 should you give good performance I mean not anything special but will give good performance.

Actually does that board support am2+ proc??? were you able to confirm that?? because that might be a problem, worse it may limit the HT of the sys if it does.

if it does fully support the phenom then the board is fine.
If not then do you need crossfire?? and if so do you need 2 cards or 4 cards??
if so
go with that board or the 790X or 790GX
if not
drop back to the 780g or the 770 which are very decent chipsets.

and that 4850 looks pretty solid, I see no issues with it, except for possibly the mobo. hmm why no consideration for the X3 I know it sounds out there but it does throw down with the e8400. granted the lowest one costs 100 bucks.

JrRacinFan · Dec 11, 2008, 12:29 AM

If you want inexpensive take a look at a 5400+ BE and Asrock 780GXE.

LittleLizard · Dec 11, 2008, 12:51 AM

phenom with no fifty in the ends are not so good (even if u dont get the tlb bug)

spearman914 · Dec 11, 2008, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

If you want inexpensive take a look at a 5400+ BE and Asrock 780GXE.

Or you can get a 5000+ BE. They OC like hell.

JrRacinFan · Dec 11, 2008, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearman914

Or you can get a 5000+ BE. They OC like hell.

But for the cost @ 3.2Ghz, e1200 can outperform it @ 3Ghz if you can get ram that can get up to ~900mhz CL4.

EDIT: Not trying to start an "Intel vs AMD" flamewar here guys. Sorry if my post sounded liek I meant to.

spearman914 · Dec 11, 2008, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

But for the cost @ 3.2Ghz, e1200 can outperform it @ 3Ghz if you can get ram that can get up to ~900mhz CL4.

EDIT: Not trying to start an "Intel vs AMD" flamewar here guys. Sorry if my post sounded liek I meant to.

Yea but if he switches intel then the price will be higher cuz of the you'll need to switch the mobo too.

department76 · Dec 11, 2008, 01:24 AM

dont get that crappy motherboard, get a 790FX

Gilletter · Dec 11, 2008, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LittleLizard

phenom with no fifty in the ends are not so good (even if u dont get the tlb bug)

well I'm going with what I can afford... I'm not 100% sure of my budget, but I'm thinking anywhere from 200-350... which is why I put what I did for processor and board. I'm looking at graphics card first and foremost, then on to a new processor / mobo... I figured the quad core would out perform my x2 hands down. I'm not looking for the best of the best... just something that I can depend on, and be able to a little better performance out of.

Gilletter · Dec 11, 2008, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysg

Your not moving to phenom II right????

if not, then a phenom 9600 should you give good performance I mean not anything special but will give good performance.

Actually does that board support am2+ proc??? were you able to confirm that?? because that might be a problem, worse it may limit the HT of the sys if it does.

if it does fully support the phenom then the board is fine.
If not then do you need crossfire?? and if so do you need 2 cards or 4 cards??
if so
go with that board or the 790X or 790GX
if not
drop back to the 780g or the 770 which are very decent chipsets.

and that 4850 looks pretty solid, I see no issues with it, except for possibly the mobo. hmm why no consideration for the X3 I know it sounds out there but it does throw down with the e8400. granted the lowest one costs 100 bucks.

board SHOULD support it, it's combo'd at newegg... not worried about xfire... there is another board that they are comboing it with which has a higher ht, I could post that link if you think it woudl be better

JrRacinFan · Dec 11, 2008, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearman914

Yea but if he switches intel then the price will be higher cuz of the you'll need to switch the mobo too.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16813131299R

Seems like a good deal to me tho...

Gilletter · Dec 11, 2008, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16813131299R

Seems like a good deal to me tho...

don't want to do open box, I'm so uneasy about stuff like that... plus Intel is out of my price range.

JrRacinFan · Dec 11, 2008, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilletter

don't want to do open box, I'm so uneasy about stuff like that... plus Intel is out of my price range.

It's cool just tryin' to help.

Gilletter · Dec 11, 2008, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

It's cool just tryin' to help.

thanks, I appreciate it. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131325 what about that motherboard?

HolyCow02 · Dec 11, 2008, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilletter

thanks, I appreciate it. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131325 what about that motherboard?

Do you need a 780G board? They have the built in video already. If your gonna be using a 4850 there is no reason to be getting a G based board. Go for something with an FX, they are solid chipsets

ShadowFold · Dec 11, 2008, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilletter

thanks, I appreciate it. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131325 what about that motherboard?

Excellent OCing board. My friend has one and a 5000+ and hes got it at 3.4ghz. I might get one with a Phenom II my self if its cheaper when they come out.

JrRacinFan · Dec 11, 2008, 03:27 PM

Totally agree. If your willing to push the budget up to that much brandshould not be an issue and (the "new")Biostar is pretty good. Chipset would matter more IMO.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138128

King Wookie · Dec 11, 2008, 03:50 PM

Umm, personally, I'd look at upgrading you psu if you want to run a 4850.

I'm dubious as to whether your current one is up to the task.

Gilletter · Dec 12, 2008, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Wookie

Umm, personally, I'd look at upgrading you psu if you want to run a 4850.

I'm dubious as to whether your current one is up to the task.

getting a new psu for xmas more than likely

Gilletter · Dec 12, 2008, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

Totally agree. If your willing to push the budget up to that much brandshould not be an issue and (the "new")Biostar is pretty good. Chipset would matter more IMO.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138128

with the asus board there is a combo discount as well as a mir.

[QUOTE Do you need a 780G board? They have the built in video already. If your gonna be using a 4850 there is no reason to be getting a G based board. Go for something with an FX, they are solid chipsets [/QUOTE]

Can you list some FX boards for me???

ShadowFold · Dec 12, 2008, 12:10 AM

The only FX board I would go for is one with a SB750 and the cheapest one is 170$...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131339
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136057

And just because its got onboard video doesn't mean its any worse.. Means if your main card dies you have a backup

JrRacinFan · Dec 12, 2008, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilletter

with the asus board there is a combo discount as well as a mir.

Well yeah, I am aware but the 790GX chipset is quite a bit better.

Gilletter · Dec 12, 2008, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

Well yeah, I am aware but the 790GX chipset is quite a bit better.

what about the chipset is better? (again thanks for the advice everyone) Trying to stay within budget... wife wont let me spend more than what I get due to the baby coming in may...so I need the best I can get, for the amount I have to spend...

LittleLizard · Dec 12, 2008, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilletter

what about the chipset is better? (again thanks for the advice everyone) Trying to stay within budget... wife wont let me spend more than what I get due to the baby coming in may...so I need the best I can get, for the amount I have to spend...

the 790 gx is technicaly a 790x with a 780g overclocked in the same die and the 790x is a crippled 790fx in terms of crossfireability and the 790 fx is the flaghship chipset so, indeed is good, and a lot of its goodness is thanks to the sb750

also congratulations for the baby

Dec 10, 2008, 04:12 AM	#1
Gilletter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Winter Wonder Land --- Elyria, OH Posts: 722 (0.32/day) Thanks: 201 Thanked 92 Times in 83 Posts System Specs	Upgrade advice... So I've narrowed it down to this combo if I have enough left over. thoughts and opinions??? TIA http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.147958 this cpu if I DON'T http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103773 video card with either option http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121272 video card if I can get even more money from xmas/birthday money http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121276

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Dec 11, 2008, 12:18 AM	#3
kysg Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pacoima, CA Posts: 974 (0.56/day) Thanks: 4 Thanked 99 Times in 96 Posts System Specs	Your not moving to phenom II right???? if not, then a phenom 9600 should you give good performance I mean not anything special but will give good performance. Actually does that board support am2+ proc??? were you able to confirm that?? because that might be a problem, worse it may limit the HT of the sys if it does. if it does fully support the phenom then the board is fine. If not then do you need crossfire?? and if so do you need 2 cards or 4 cards?? if so go with that board or the 790X or 790GX if not drop back to the 780g or the 770 which are very decent chipsets. and that 4850 looks pretty solid, I see no issues with it, except for possibly the mobo. hmm why no consideration for the X3 I know it sounds out there but it does throw down with the e8400. granted the lowest one costs 100 bucks. Last edited by kysg; Dec 11, 2008 at 12:24 AM.

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Dec 11, 2008, 12:11 AM	#2
Gilletter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Winter Wonder Land --- Elyria, OH Posts: 722 (0.32/day) Thanks: 201 Thanked 92 Times in 83 Posts System Specs	anybody have any opinion on these upgrades??? I need some input, maybe if someone has suggestion on different parts...

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Dec 11, 2008, 12:51 AM	#5
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Dec 11, 2008, 03:27 PM	#18
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Dec 11, 2008, 03:50 PM	#19
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Dec 12, 2008, 12:10 AM	#22
ShadowFold Eligible for custom title Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 12,855 (6.51/day) Thanks: 1,381 Thanked 1,681 Times in 1,498 Posts System Specs	The only FX board I would go for is one with a SB750 and the cheapest one is 170$... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131339 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136057 And just because its got onboard video doesn't mean its any worse.. Means if your main card dies you have a backup

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