DX10 for XP ?!?!

unfortunatly, i highly dought M$ will release a "real" direct X 10 for XP because its one of the only ways (other than forcing people to use the slow, buggy OS on new branded computers) they can get people to go out and buy Vista (or install there cracked pirated version )

[Triprift]

Its actually not that bad Vista no worse than what xp was a t the same time funny enuff nothings ever said about that.

i suppose, vista is just one of them things, you love it, or you hate it.

i dont like it at this moment in time, i have installed it a few times before and used it for a few months however i realised vista is basicly Windows XP but with far too many "healpful features" that eat RAM and system resources, i like an OS to be streamlined and do exactly what i want it to do (XP) and not have lots of background services and intergrated apps doing things i don't need and will never use, however i am aware that i will eventually have to make the switch to Vista because XP will become obsolete and unsupported, but to be honest, i think by the time everyone switches to Vista by choice microsoft will be just about ready to release a new OS.
IMO

[Xazax]

Sigh... it doesn't work.

I would know, because i have Windows Vista and DX10.

So your telling me these bozo's wrote a new line or codes and kernels and what not in XP to support DX10 features, that only a brand new operating system built from the ground up to run the new DirectX, works?

I think all you people who believe this crap are falling Symptoms to the "believe system". Take a little Psychology and you can see that; its not that it actually works, but people "believe" that IT DOES DX10 and so they see it as a paradigm, THE WAY THE SEE THINGS AND WANT TO SEE IT. Hence you believe it works and it "magically" does work (for your mind)

So its just a trick of yourself, it doesn't in actuality work you just believe it does.


Now please.. no more DX10 XP crap im just so sick of this already...

1) MS is not an evil company(its just a business like the rest...)
2) XP is DX9 just like Windows 98/2000 were DX8, i mean I CANT INSTALL DX9 on Windows 98/95/2000 now can i?
3) Vista and only Vista is the current OS that supports DX10 and its features

/End Rant
/Begin Drinking

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by Wile E

Major corporations don't update to newer versions of Windows very often because they use custom software that must remain 100% stable at all times. Switching to a new OS breaks compatibility with many of those apps. Hell, just installing IE7 on XP breaks some of these apps, as do run-of -the-mill security updates. Thus the reason there are still a large number corporation still using OSes as old as 2000 Pro.

that's also the reason several corps still use P4s because there software has major issues with both AMD chips and the new C2Ds.

by now a lot of them are on XP most of the 2000pro people use it on old P3 machines thta don't need XP anyway

[Nitro-Max]

A friend of mine tried this on xp a few weeks ago he said its not as good as dx10 in vista its just a modded dx9.

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id say microsoft still play quite a major role in the corporate arena.

[AsphyxiA]

Originally Posted by cdawall

i doubt vista will ever become standard i think with windows 7 on its way out everyone will stick with XP and go to W7...kinda like ME was skipped

yeah, that could be true, OR, we get yet another XP!!!!!! I know windows 7 is supposed to be the The windows OS that will make all of the other Windows system cry. But I have a feeling that W7 will in fact be delayed, a lot!!!! If it's gonna be as good as they say it's gonna be, they have to decide what to cut out and what to keep.

yeah and i know its fun to play around with stuff that dosen't work, i play with Gentoo linux , but I know that when I update my system, I want to fully take advantage of my hardware. Just my $.02.

[Th3-R3as0n]

Im assuming you have to have a DX10 card to run this correct?

Or is it a "crysis very high settings" for all dx9 games?

[Triprift]

Windows 7 better be the greatest os ever cus if its not it will be run out of town by irate xp owners lol and yeah youd need a dx 10 card ps liverpool ftw

[JrRacinFan]

Originally Posted by Th3-R3as0n

Im assuming you have to have a DX10 card to run this correct?

Or is it a "crysis very high settings" for all dx9 games?

Unfortunately, so far I have noticed its like the very high settings thing, but it also has to be an SM4 card.

There is only minor changes I have noticed visually but alot of people seem to think i am full of it so I quit posting in the thread.

[jonmcc33]

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

If you can read one of my previous posts you will see why. I just like to tinker with things. How about you? Do you enjoy making things work the way they were not intended to? I have no problem going to Vista, as matter of fact I may reinstall it again over the weekend and dual boot just for the sake of it.

Not sure what you mean. Tinkering with things usually causes them to break. Never heard the phrase "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" before?

Originally Posted by ShadowFold

I did but I had too many problems and I couldnt even run it anyway..

Couldn't run it why? Surprisingly, 82% of the problems in Vista aren't even caused by Microsoft (DailyTech).

[JrRacinFan]

Well, yeah, but doesn't really matter to me. It's all software and I don't mind if I have to reinstall windows or anything. Heck my system is due anyway.

[Xazax]

Didnt you all ignore my post that it doesnt work at all....

[JrRacinFan]

I know I didn't.

[jonmcc33]

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

Well, yeah, but doesn't really matter to me. It's all software and I don't mind if I have to reinstall windows or anything. Heck my system is due anyway.

Due? I've installed every Windows version released as well as various Linux distros. I don't find a re-install of an OS to be a time practical event, even using Ghost or any other imaging application.

But I'll admit that I was once a person that liked to tweak things and reformat every 3 months myself. I just got sick and tired of doing it.

[JrRacinFan]

LOL, hear you on that! It just ... helps keep a clean stable system. I dont know how to explain it.

[Xazax]

^ Same thats why i have a USB HDD with all my (important pron files) back-up files on it.

[Wile E]

I seem to format almost once a month, sometimes 2 months. lol.

[NeSeNVi]

Yeah! ^_^ So if XP has DX10 now, maybe there will bo no reason to change to Vista/7... No it's imba: what a shame Microsoft gonna stop support this system.

[BrooksyX]

Umm wow, do you realize you just bumped a thread that was almost a year old...

[InnocentCriminal]

If anyone still thinks that this works, please test out Stalker Clear Sky. I'd be very interested to know if the DX10 feature become available.

[ShadowFold]

Originally Posted by InnocentCriminal

If anyone still thinks that this works, please test out Stalker Clear Sky. I'd be very interested to know if the DX10 feature become available.

Pretty sure Clear Sky actually uses DX10 so your outta luck.

[InnocentCriminal]

Originally Posted by ShadowFold

Pretty sure Clear Sky actually uses DX10...

Yeah I know hence my question...

Originally Posted by ShadowFold

... so your outta luck.

Most probably, but it'd still be nice to see if it does improve or enable anything. I know it's a very slim chance because I tried enabling DX10 mode in XP myself and didn't get anywhere.

[ste2425]

a tad bit of toppic but do directx 10 games run on a directx 9 system? well os? coz my compnants support directx10 but im running xp, if so its a wait till windows 7 for me