Woooooahhh: new OFFICIAL PII speed record - Page 3

spearman914 · Dec 18, 2008, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgoth

stil hast beaten the highest mhz overclock 8ghz by P4

Yea who cares. a 3 GHz C2D could beat it.

kid41212003 · Dec 18, 2008, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dark2099

From everything I heard about the AM2 chips currently that doesn't matter at all, and if the architecture of the PII is similar than shouldn't matter either. Heck on the i7 it supposedly doesn't matter if you have HT on or off for benching.

HT speed will limit memory bandwidth, the current AM2 cpu already at 1000Mhz, all information go in and out through Hyper Transport.

HT (Hyper Transport) = FSB = QPI (Not exactly, but they are similar).

HT with Nehalem isn't Hyper Transport, It's Hyper Threading, 2 threads per core, 4 cores = 8 threads. (Useless, if application/game only use 1 or 2 cores)

In this case, Hyper Transport would be QPI link for Nehalem , and It can't get any lower than 4800GT/s.

Nick89 · Dec 18, 2008, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdawall

why do you constantly post in AMD threads if all your going to do is be negative?

Because he's an Intel fanboy troll.

feeding the trolls

TheGoat Eater · Dec 18, 2008, 09:43 PM

Not to rain on your parade but the Phenom II is TEH SUK

- just trust me ok.. thanx

Nick89 · Dec 18, 2008, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGoat Eater

Not to rain on your parade but the Phenom II is TEH SUK

- just trust me ok.. thanx

You are just trolling, You post without any proof that the PII sucks and tell us to just trust you?

TheGoat Eater · Dec 18, 2008, 09:54 PM

lol - because I have one and I hate it

... I am no troll because I speak the truth just a performance whore,... oh and it still sucks

yeah it clocks but w/o performance... no SS for you LOL

Edit - I have 2

Double Edit - The MSI 790GX Platinum board is epic fail ... wish AMD sent a DFI FX instead, oh well DFI is sending one anywho...

spearman914 · Dec 18, 2008, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGoat Eater

lol - because I have one and I hate it

... I am no troll because I speak the truth just a performance whore,... oh and it still sucks

yeah it clocks but w/o performance... no SS for you LOL

Edit - I have 2

It's not out...

TheGoat Eater · Dec 18, 2008, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearman914

It's not out...

hmm - if it is not out how are people getting and testing these ? I recall an event where they used them and OCed the hell out of them for show - did they use bogus stunt double chips or do you need to reword that semi-statement to not out for GENERAL PUBLIC

"of course it's not out yet MR., but I still have two

"

BenchZowner · Dec 18, 2008, 10:16 PM

Lots of people ( like hardware reviewers, beta testers, and employees of hardware & computer manufacturers, and some people working in distributors ) have some CPUs already.
And TheGoat Eater is one of them

overclocker · Dec 18, 2008, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenchZowner

Lots of people ( like hardware reviewers, beta testers, and employees of hardware & computer manufacturers, and some people working in distributors ) have some CPUs already.
And TheGoat Eater is one of them

LOL you could just be another TheGoat Eeater who made another account for all we know.

BenchZowner · Dec 18, 2008, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by overclocker

LOL you could just be another TheGoat Eeater who made another account for all we know.

Could be.
But I'm not.
If you're in doubt, my MSN is in my profile details

TheGoat Eater · Dec 18, 2008, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenchZowner

Lots of people ( like hardware reviewers, beta testers, and employees of hardware & computer manufacturers, and some people working in distributors ) have some CPUs already.
And TheGoat Eater is one of them

Thanks man

never thought you would actually post on this forum... usually Greek sites and XS and other Hardcore places...

Quote:

Originally Posted by overclocker

LOL you could just be another TheGoat Eeater who made another account for all we know.

FYI - http://benchzone.com/ this is his site

I would not pretend to be him as I would make an arse of my self trying to pretend I know my stuff as well as he does

BZ - R E S P E C T

BenchZowner · Dec 18, 2008, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGoat Eater

Thanks man

never thought you would actually post on this forum... usually Greek sites and XS and other Hardcore places...

I'd like to participate in many forums around the globe, but my time is pretty limited lately.
I used to lurk TPU forums a wee bit over the last few years.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGoat Eater

FYI - http://benchzone.com/ this is his site

I would not pretend to be him as I would make an arse of my self trying to pretend I know my stuff as well as he does

BZ - R E S P E C T

Haha, no need to "advertise" my site mate

Thanks anyways.

Knowledge is something everyone can get, it just takes some studying and "practicing".
There's always something new out there for everyone, we learn new things every day

cdawall · Dec 18, 2008, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGoat Eater

Not to rain on your parade but the Phenom II is TEH SUK

- just trust me ok.. thanx

i heard the opposite from people who had them about a month ago?

JrRacinFan · Dec 18, 2008, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdawall

i heard the opposite from people who had them about a month ago?

Same here. When does the NDA lift again?

TheGoat Eater · Dec 18, 2008, 10:47 PM

I was spoiled be i7 and DDR3 - even C2D and DDR3/2 is better imho

Its a personal choice - not attacking just spouting of my impression of it - though the board REALLY sucks and I need a FX board to be happy/happier most likely

sno.lcn · Dec 18, 2008, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearman914

Yea who cares. a 3 GHz C2D could beat it.

Haha that reminds me. On the way to my 7.5ghz P4 overclock the other day, I briefly stopped at 6.7ghz and ran a super pi 1m. And it took 20 seconds

Quote:

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

Same here. When does the NDA lift again?

I think only a couple more days. It's around the 20th IIRC.

JrRacinFan · Dec 18, 2008, 10:48 PM

lmao @ GoatEater's sig!

Quote:

Originally Posted by sno.lcn

I think only a couple more days. It's around the 20th IIRC.

TheGoat Eater · Dec 18, 2008, 10:49 PM

I think 1/8/09 but I haven't the foggiest - good to see you here sno.lcn , guess this page is over running with XSers now

BenchZowner · Dec 18, 2008, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdawall

i heard the opposite from people who had them about a month ago?

It's how you look at it that makes the difference between saying that it sucks or that it's a good product.

They do overclock better than the first generation of Phenoms, the average 24/7 stable overclock on air with a Phenom II 920 / 940 will be at approx 3.75GHz, with some good chips reaching or even surpassing the 4GHz mark by a bit, and some "duds" stopping at 3.6GHz or so.
Unfortunately they're not on par with a Core i7 ( even with HyperThreading disabled ) on a clock per clock basis ( clock per clock = running both processors at the same operating frequency ).
They're also behind "Penryn" ( Q9450/Q9550/Q9650/QX9650/QX9770 ) on a clock per clock basis as well.

The average 24/7 stable overclock of the Q9450's is now around 3.8GHz, and you need a approx. 4.15GHz overclock on a Phenom II 920/940 to beat the Q9450 clocked at 3.8GHz.

If you're looking for the absolute performance in most applications and usage scenarios Intel remains the top dog in the desktop sector.

If you already have a AM2 based setup, upgrading to a Phenom II will give you a healthy boost in the CPU limited applications.

In the end it all depends on what you want, what you have, what are you going to run on the PC, and your budget for the build/upgrade.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

Same here. When does the NDA lift again?

January 8th, 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGoat Eater

MSI - the board REALLY sucks and I need a FX board to be happy/happier most likely

Of course it sucks, it's... em es eye

:
Any news on grabbing a M3A79T Deluxe ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by sno.lcn

I think only a couple more days. It's around the 20th IIRC.

I've got some info from a shop here, they told me that they'll be selling the new Phenom II's on the 28th of this month, "we don't know about the rest" they said, so I guess they're just going to ignore the embargo ( NDA ).

Maybe AMD decided to change the day the NDA will be lifted ?
Don't think so, but I'm going to double-check it tomorrow.

cdawall · Dec 18, 2008, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sno.lcn

Haha that reminds me. On the way to my 7.5ghz P4 overclock the other day, I briefly stopped at 6.7ghz and ran a super pi 1m. And it took 20 seconds

I think only a couple more days. It's around the 20th IIRC.

it was the 20th but got moved back when they moved release day

hopefully with some non-ES bios's we can see some better clocks

overclocker · Dec 18, 2008, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGoat Eater

Thanks man

never thought you would actually post on this forum... usually Greek sites and XS and other Hardcore places...

FYI - http://benchzone.com/ this is his site

I would not pretend to be him as I would make an arse of my self trying to pretend I know my stuff as well as he does

BZ - R E S P E C T

Well glad to see your not making more then one account, and nice to meet you lol.

And welcome benchzwoner

Bytor · Dec 18, 2008, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgoth

stil hast beaten the highest mhz overclock 8ghz by P4

Neither has the i7...

sno.lcn · Dec 19, 2008, 12:05 AM

And neither has C2D, which pwns i7 for high overclocks

Paulieg · Dec 19, 2008, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGoat Eater

lol - because I have one and I hate it

... I am no troll because I speak the truth just a performance whore,... oh and it still sucks

yeah it clocks but w/o performance... no SS for you LOL

Edit - I have 2

Double Edit - The MSI 790GX Platinum board is epic fail ... wish AMD sent a DFI FX instead, oh well DFI is sending one anywho...

Damn it goat. You have me a bit worried. I've got a 940 on pre-order, after selling all of my Intel stuff.

System Name:	Mine \| Dad + Mom
Processor:	E8500 E0 Wolfdale @ 4.6GHz 1.5V \| E2180 M0 Allendale @ 3.0GHz 1.3V
Motherboard:	Asus Maximus Formula (X48) w/ Rampage BIOS \| Asus P5Q Pro (P45)
Cooling:	Xigmatek Rifle HDT-S1283 w/ SFF21F Fan \| Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
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Benchmarks:	Not Wasting Time!

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Video Card:	EVGA GTX570
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Memory:	8GB Patriot DDR2
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Hard Disk:	x1 80GB, x2 1TB.
Optical Drive:	x1 LG DVD/CD Drive
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Case:	HAF 932
Sound Card:	Sound Blaster Fatal1ty Xtreme gamer 64mb Xram
PSU:	Corsair HX850W
Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit

System Name:	9th Level
Processor:	AMD Phenom II 940 BE @3.4Ghz
Motherboard:	GIGABYTE MA790FX-UD5P
Cooling:	Corsair H100, x2 250mm, x1 140mm, x3 120mm fans.
Memory:	8GB Patriot DDR2
Video Card:	EVGA GTX480 (800/1600/2000/@1.0v)
Hard Disk:	x1 80GB, x2 1TB.
Optical Drive:	x1 LG DVD/CD Drive
CRT/LCD Model:	Acer 24" 2ms 1920x1200
Case:	HAF 932
Sound Card:	Sound Blaster Fatal1ty Xtreme gamer 64mb Xram
PSU:	Corsair HX850W
Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit

System Name:	Mine \| Dad + Mom
Processor:	E8500 E0 Wolfdale @ 4.6GHz 1.5V \| E2180 M0 Allendale @ 3.0GHz 1.3V
Motherboard:	Asus Maximus Formula (X48) w/ Rampage BIOS \| Asus P5Q Pro (P45)
Cooling:	Xigmatek Rifle HDT-S1283 w/ SFF21F Fan \| Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
Memory:	G.Skill Pi Black 2x2GB 1.02GHz CL5 \| OCZ Reaper 2x2GB 1.05GHz CL5
Video Card:	Sapphire 4870X2 2GB 820/1020MHz \| Sapphire 4850 1GB 700/1100MHz
Hard Disk:	WD VR 150GB 10K RPM + WD 500GB 7.2K RPM \| WD 200GB 7.2K RPM
Optical Drive:	Samsung Black DVD Burner \| Lite-On Black DVD Burner w/ Lightscribe
CRT/LCD Model:	Acer P243WAID 24" 1920x1200 LCD \| Acer V193W 19" 1440x900 LCD
Case:	Cooler Master HAF 932 Full-Tower \| Antec Twelve Hundred Mid-Tower
Sound Card:	Fatal1ty Xtreme Gamer w/ Z-5500 5.1 \| On-Board Audio w/ S-220 2.1
PSU:	PC Power and Cooling 750W Non-Modular \| Corsair HX-520W Modular
Software:	Windows Vista Home Premium X64 \| Windows Vista Home Premium X64
Benchmarks:	Not Wasting Time!

Dec 18, 2008, 09:43 PM	#54
TheGoat Eater Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: West Des Moines,IA (USA) Posts: 613 (0.32/day) Thanks: 31 Thanked 108 Times in 87 Posts	Not to rain on your parade but the Phenom II is TEH SUK - just trust me ok.. thanx

Dec 18, 2008, 09:54 PM	#56
TheGoat Eater Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: West Des Moines,IA (USA) Posts: 613 (0.32/day) Thanks: 31 Thanked 108 Times in 87 Posts	lol - because I have one and I hate it ... I am no troll because I speak the truth just a performance whore,... oh and it still sucks yeah it clocks but w/o performance... no SS for you LOL Edit - I have 2 Double Edit - The MSI 790GX Platinum board is epic fail ... wish AMD sent a DFI FX instead, oh well DFI is sending one anywho...

Dec 18, 2008, 10:16 PM	#59
BenchZowner Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 95 (0.05/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 100 Times in 31 Posts System Specs	Lots of people ( like hardware reviewers, beta testers, and employees of hardware & computer manufacturers, and some people working in distributors ) have some CPUs already. And TheGoat Eater is one of them

System Name:	Benching Rig
Processor:	Intel Core i7 Extreme 965
Motherboard:	Foxconn BloodRage
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Video Card:	GeForce GTX 280 SLI
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Optical Drive:	Optiarc AD-7191S
CRT/LCD Model:	Samsung SyncMaster 730BF
Case:	My bench
Sound Card:	Benching rig, no sound :D
PSU:	Modded OCZ ProXStream 1000W

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Processor:	Intel I7-740QM 1.851ghz-3.122ghz OC
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Cooling:	2 built in laptop cooling fans
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Hard Disk:	OCZ 80GB read 285 Write 275 + 640GB onboard + 1.5TB external
Optical Drive:	DVD/CD/BluRay player/burner
CRT/LCD Model:	laptop screen 17.3" 1600x900 + acer 24" inch LCD HD 1920 x 1200 + 100" LED LCD projector 1024x768
Case:	My laptop back pack case
Sound Card:	2 laptop speakers and a little sub lmao+USB Sound Blaster X-Fi 5.1+Logitech 5.1 speakers
PSU:	7.7 amp power bar
Software:	Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
Benchmarks:	12655 3DMarks 06

System Name:	Deployment build
Processor:	Phenom II B97@4080mhz 1.6v (24/7 4800mhz max clock) (FX9590?)
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Dec 18, 2008, 10:47 PM	#66
TheGoat Eater Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: West Des Moines,IA (USA) Posts: 613 (0.32/day) Thanks: 31 Thanked 108 Times in 87 Posts	I was spoiled be i7 and DDR3 - even C2D and DDR3/2 is better imho Its a personal choice - not attacking just spouting of my impression of it - though the board REALLY sucks and I need a FX board to be happy/happier most likely __________________ [Mobile Artillery] MSI GT60 0NE-403USi7-3630QM \| matte 15.6" 1080P \|GTX 680M 4GB w/ custom bios \|750GB 7.2K rpm \| Killer Doubleshot networking \|12GB DDR3 1600

Dec 18, 2008, 10:49 PM	#69
TheGoat Eater Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: West Des Moines,IA (USA) Posts: 613 (0.32/day) Thanks: 31 Thanked 108 Times in 87 Posts	I think 1/8/09 but I haven't the foggiest - good to see you here sno.lcn , guess this page is over running with XSers now __________________ [Mobile Artillery] MSI GT60 0NE-403USi7-3630QM \| matte 15.6" 1080P \|GTX 680M 4GB w/ custom bios \|750GB 7.2K rpm \| Killer Doubleshot networking \|12GB DDR3 1600

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Video Card:	Sapphire 4870x2
Hard Disk:	WD SATA 640 Gig HDD
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Case:	Modded Rocketfish
Sound Card:	Onboard (only use head phones)
PSU:	700 watt
Software:	a bunch
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Dec 19, 2008, 12:05 AM	#74
sno.lcn Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 595 (0.25/day) Thanks: 149 Thanked 146 Times in 87 Posts System Specs	And neither has C2D, which pwns i7 for high overclocks __________________ Heatware

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