Phenom II X4 940 Tested at Stock Speeds - Page 2

Woody112 · Dec 23, 2008, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by farlex85

Wow I didn't even realize that. What's going on here, can we get some 9950 comparisons? Did they just up the voltage and clock speed a bit, create more headroom and slap a new sticker on it? How is this even that much better than Phenom I?

Now I know why all those other bench marks floating around here on TPU had a black bar going across the voltage on CPU-z.
I'm not going to BS anyone I've always been an intel fan but was actually considering the possibility of making a jump to AMD. Still may if prices are really good.

farlex85 · Dec 23, 2008, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Paulieg

How about we just wait for some real world benchmarks, perhaps? TRT740, myself and ascstinger will all have 945 BE ES chips within the week, and then we'll see.

Ah yes that's what we need some TPU benching. Can I put in an early request for some Sandra tests?

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Originally Posted by Woody112

Now I know why all those other bench marks floating around here on TPU had a black bar going across the voltage on CPU-z.
I'm not going to BS anyone I've always been an intel fan but was actually considering the possibility of making a jump to AMD. Still may if prices are really good.

I've been getting excited by the hype wanting prices to come down in a nice CPU war, but these look incredibly lackluster. Barely matching a 2 year old proc at a projected $275 while using more voltage? No thanks. We shall see though, there is still hope.

Dec 23, 2008, 09:18 PM

That is very poor and embarassing for AMD, my Q6600 @3GHz could manage 12K+ in cinebench with ease.

Paulieg · Dec 23, 2008, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by farlex85

Ah yes that's what we need some TPU benching. Can I put in an early request for some Sandra tests?

without a doubt. I just hate all of the fanboy slamming even before release. Just drives me nuts.

Woody112 · Dec 23, 2008, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Paulieg

How about we just wait for some real world benchmarks, perhaps? TRT740, myself and ascstinger will all have 945 BE ES chips within the week, and then we'll see.

Looking forward to a proper review.

farlex85 · Dec 23, 2008, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Paulieg

without a doubt. I just hate all of the fanboy slamming even before release. Just drives me nuts.

Sorry I'm not trying to make it fanboyish if your referring to my comments, this just seems quite disappointing, I have visions of competition dancing in my head.....

Woody112 · Dec 23, 2008, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Paulieg

without a doubt. I just hate all of the fanboy slamming even before release. Just drives me nuts.

I wasn't trying to slam anything, if thats what you were referring to.

jydie · Dec 23, 2008, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Woody112

Looking forward to a proper review.

I second that!!

ShadowFold · Dec 23, 2008, 09:25 PM

Guys, these take voltage better than Intel chips. 1.3v is like 1.2v on an Intel CPU.

Paulieg · Dec 23, 2008, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Woody112

I wasn't trying to slam anything, if thats what you were referring to.

No, not you specifically.

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farlex85 · Dec 23, 2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Paulieg

You can keep that vision, it just needs to be against the penryn and not i7. i7 is on another level, performance wise and PRICE wise.

I can handle penryn like performance, so long as it beats penryn prices (by a healthy margin preferably). I can't get excited about something that does what someone else already did several months ago, a year ago, 2 years ago, for the same price. If these are projected to come in at $270 or so and like these benches say only perform on par w/ a q6600, that's just disappointing. But, I will hold out until you guys get your hands on them and we get some more in depth reviews, perhaps a surprise awaits. Not like I'm buying anything this month anyway.

aCid888* · Dec 23, 2008, 09:36 PM

They both don't look so good when put against this E8400 of mine on this shitty DFI board that likes to die.

r9 · Dec 23, 2008, 09:44 PM

What do you expect from Phenom II I don`t know. Q6600 was beating Phenom I all day long now we have Phenom II that has no design improvements only larger L3 cache and we all know how much AMD processors benefit from larger cache ZERO.
Intel could do nothing after Q6600 and still be in front of AMD. They could just make 45nm Q6600 and that is what it take to master Phenom II.
That is just pitifull.
I don`t know what AMD are thinking.

fullinfusion · Dec 23, 2008, 09:45 PM

dont know how true this is but its worth a look
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1376983

Melvis · Dec 23, 2008, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by aCid888*

They both don't look so good when put against this E8400 of mine on this shitty DFI board that likes to die.

Just proves to show that Quad cores are not any good for this test!!

We need something that is multi threaded that can utilize all four cores, then we might see how a quad core is meant to run.

Steevo · Dec 23, 2008, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by farlex85

Wow I didn't even realize that. What's going on here, can we get some 9950 comparisons? Did they just up the voltage and clock speed a bit, create more headroom and slap a new sticker on it? How is this even that much better than Phenom I?

Votage leak is nominal on the CPU, so all the voltage is actually going to work rather than keeping the current high enough in the core to do the work. So higher voltage is not what it used to be with this CPU.

One last thought, remember the 48XX cards and how they were setup before the launch? It is very possible all extrenal engineering samples are not what the final product will be.

HTC · Dec 23, 2008, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Woody112

Not bad but 1.352v for 3ghz.

You're like comparing apple juice to lemon juice in terms of acidity: P II voltage is very different the Intel / previous AMD procs.

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Originally Posted by ShadowFold

Guys, these take voltage better than Intel chips. 1.3v is like 1.2v on an Intel CPU.

I'm thinking less, even. IIRC, there were reported load temps of less then 50º with 1.5+ Vcore.

Did the reviewers make temps screenies?

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Originally Posted by Steevo

Votage leak is nominal on the CPU, so all the voltage is actually going to work rather than keeping the current high enough in the core to do the work. So higher voltage is not what it used to be with this CPU.

This is why temps on P II are better then Intel / older AMD procs.

cdawall · Dec 23, 2008, 09:54 PM

AMD has always run @ higher volts than intel?

HTC · Dec 23, 2008, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Melvis

Just proves to show that Quad cores are not any good for this test!!

We need something that is multi threaded that can utilize all four cores, then we might see how a quad core is meant to run.

Encode a movie: aren't encoding progs multi threaded?

Using the same settings, encode any movie with both procs @ same speed and check the result.

miloshs · Dec 23, 2008, 09:54 PM

Seriously if ths chip is going to sell at a 200$ mark then its a winner in any case, but on the real world side... i doubt it will be that cheap, FGS the 9950's are selling at 200$ price point...

Im expecting low 250$...

And a suggestion for Pauleig... when you get the chip, you can also do a OC test on a 790FX/SB600 board just to see how it fares compared to 790GX/SB750 boards...
Would be nice to see if we people of the SB600 group really need to change to GX's or not...

Melvis · Dec 23, 2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by r9

What do you expect from Phenom II I don`t know. Q6600 was beating Phenom I all day long now we have Phenom II that has no design improvements only larger L3 cache and we all know how much AMD processors benefit from larger cache ZERO.
Intel could do nothing after Q6600 and still be in front of AMD. They could just make 45nm Q6600 and that is what it take to master Phenom II.
That is just pitifull.
I don`t know what AMD are thinking.

I don't know what you are thinking, but far as i know AMD did a list of improvements on this new Phenom apart from just cashe sizes, i remember looking back in some old threads and seeing a list of about 10 different improvements, i cant remember what but there was a fare few. And to get over 6GHz is Phenomenal, so i think they have done a bit more improvements then the previous Phenom some how, which never really got past 3.4Ghz.

Paulieg · Dec 23, 2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by miloshs

Seriously if ths chip is going to sell at a 200$ mark then its a winner in any case, but on the real world side... i doubt it will be that cheap, FGS the 9950's are selling at 200$ price point...

Im expecting low 250$...

And a suggestion for Pauleig... when you get the chip, you can also do a OC test on a 790FX/SB600 board just to see how it fares compared to 790GX/SB750 boards...
Would be nice to see if we people of the SB600 group really need to change to GX's or not...

If someone loans me one, I'd be happy to. From what I hear about SB600 is that it can work. There is a guy at [H] with a chip like I'm getting, and I believe it posts about half the time.

ShadowFold · Dec 23, 2008, 10:08 PM

The Phenom II's have ACC built in. The reason SB600 sucked at OC'ing is because it was missing ACC and a few other features than are built into the PII's.

fullinfusion · Dec 23, 2008, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by HTC

Encode a movie: aren't encoding progs multi threaded?

Using the same settings, encode any movie with both procs @ same speed and check the result.

I use Any video converter to encode my movies... there you can select 0-8 cores for encoding... if its selected 0-8 before the encode is started say 4 for AMD its wicked fast... id love to see it in action with the I7 and set the encode cores to 8

fullinfusion · Dec 23, 2008, 10:13 PM

well heres a price from a supplier here in Canada for the P II ... a little spendee id say..
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Dec 23, 2008, 09:18 PM	#28
insider Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	That is very poor and embarassing for AMD, my Q6600 @3GHz could manage 12K+ in cinebench with ease.

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Dec 23, 2008, 09:36 PM	#37
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Dec 23, 2008, 09:44 PM	#38
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Dec 23, 2008, 09:45 PM	#39
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Dec 23, 2008, 09:54 PM	#43
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Dec 23, 2008, 09:54 PM	#45
miloshs Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Serbia Posts: 339 (0.19/day) Thanks: 46 Thanked 39 Times in 28 Posts System Specs	retail? Seriously if ths chip is going to sell at a 200$ mark then its a winner in any case, but on the real world side... i doubt it will be that cheap, FGS the 9950's are selling at 200$ price point... Im expecting low 250$... And a suggestion for Pauleig... when you get the chip, you can also do a OC test on a 790FX/SB600 board just to see how it fares compared to 790GX/SB750 boards... Would be nice to see if we people of the SB600 group really need to change to GX's or not... __________________ CPU-Z validation sig pics temporarily blocked

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Dec 23, 2008, 10:08 PM	#48
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Dec 23, 2008, 10:13 PM	#50
fullinfusion 1.21 Gigawatts Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: CANADA Posts: 5,448 (2.78/day) Thanks: 2,688 Thanked 1,294 Times in 1,092 Posts System Specs	well heres a price from a supplier here in Canada for the P II ... a little spendee id say.. http://www.infonec.com/site/main.php...log&catID=1585 __________________ CPU-Z validation sig pics temporarily blocked

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