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Old Dec 8, 2008, 08:59 PM   #151
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Found this on another forum:
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/5...8zb5pe9yh0.jpg

Pencil mod for the sapphire 4850 dual slot non reference card.

Just applied it and it's running at 1.36v. Might be a bit high for 24/7 but I have no experience with it. It's currently running at 785mhz but I think I can push it a lot higher.
EDIT: Even at this voltage 785mhz is the max I can do. Guess I have a bad card or something, anything over this speed generates artifacts at atitool. It can't be the temps because I'm using a Thermalright HR-03 GT with a 92mm Zalman fan at max speed which gives me a max temperature of 56 degrees C.

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Old Dec 13, 2008, 08:36 PM   #152
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Found this on another forum:
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/5...8zb5pe9yh0.jpg

Pencil mod for the sapphire 4850 dual slot non reference card.

Just applied it and it's running at 1.36v. Might be a bit high for 24/7 but I have no experience with it. It's currently running at 785mhz but I think I can push it a lot higher.
EDIT: Even at this voltage 785mhz is the max I can do. Guess I have a bad card or something, anything over this speed generates artifacts at atitool. It can't be the temps because I'm using a Thermalright HR-03 GT with a 92mm Zalman fan at max speed which gives me a max temperature of 56 degrees C.

Do you happen to know if this card of your has the same layout as my Palit 4850 Gold?


Is there any way anyone can help me in locating where i should pencilmod my 4850? Just help me find the spot? I'd be happy to take a high res 8mpix photo of the back of the card? Can anyone locate the spot by just looking at the highres picture?!?!
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Old Dec 14, 2008, 02:52 AM   #153
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Do you happen to know if this card of your has the same layout as my Palit 4850 Gold?
http://www.techpowerup.com/img/08-08-20/hd4850.jpg

Is there any way anyone can help me in locating where i should pencilmod my 4850? Just help me find the spot? I'd be happy to take a high res 8mpix photo of the back of the card? Can anyone locate the spot by just looking at the highres picture?!?!
A high res shot of the back of the card would definitely increase your odds. It's a good idea.
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Old Dec 14, 2008, 09:29 AM   #154
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A high res shot of the back of the card would definitely increase your odds. It's a good idea.
Figured as much, but i didn't just want to slap a 3.2mb photo into the thread!
Lets say if anyone feels he can determin the spot with the help of a photo i can send it to him/her to theri e-mail adress... or PM

How do you actually find the spot u need to pencil mod? Does it include measuring lot of stuff of off the back of the card with a multimeter, or is it just a specialy numbered resistor?!

What i mean is do all the manufacturers number the required resistor with the same number or not?

Another thing... the first mod with the soldering of a 100k ohm resistor onto the card... why is it a 100k ohm one? I mean with pencilmoding in the thread you guys are talking about 500 ohms, and all of a sudden soldering one is 100k ohms...
Whats the actual relationship between the first (soldering) mod and second (pencil - 1st one)...

Im actually tying to understand the stuff im about to do, hence all the silly questions, i hope you guys don't mind...

P.S. my friend is a pro electrician, so i figured i'll ask him for the 100k ohm soldering. Is the soldering mod in any way better/safer then pencilmoding - if done by a pro ofcourse (wouldn't do it myself anyway )

Thanks guys, hope this is not too much whoop-ti-doo for you.....
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Old Dec 18, 2008, 10:01 AM   #155
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A high res shot of the back of the card would definitely increase your odds. It's a good idea.
I uploaded a zip file, since i cant upload a 1mb jpeg file... if you can just take a look at it, and help if you can...

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Old Dec 23, 2008, 03:32 PM   #156
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heya guyz - one question from me - whats the highest voltage that wont kill my core? (watercooling, 30-35C load)
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Old Dec 25, 2008, 03:38 AM   #157
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Hi everyone, Merry Christmas too all

I have managed to take my HD4850 to GPU: 680 MHz and Memory: 1265(x2) MHz
I can't go further without volt modding my card.

Can you help me out please, I have attached a pic of my card.

Hope you can help me
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Old Dec 31, 2008, 10:54 AM   #158
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Old Jan 3, 2009, 07:23 PM   #159
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Are there any pencil mod for Sapphire 4850 512mb Toxic?

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Ok guys, im a complete beginner.

I have managed to learn how to bios flash, but max voltage is like 1.158 i use that for clocks 3 and 9.

I set the core to 650 and mem to 1100 in both.

I flashed the bios and i ran 3dm06 it crashed with a d3d error then after i downclocked a bit more i got a lock failed vertex error.

It is a palit hd 4850, with a t-rad 2 and 2 zalman fans attatched

idle 30 - 33 load 40 - 43.

Any ideas what i should do.

Pencil mod needed?

E8400 and mobo is ep45 ds4p.
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Old Jan 5, 2009, 07:39 AM   #161
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I have the same card as miloshs (the high res picture that he uploaded)
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Old Jan 5, 2009, 03:31 PM   #162
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Originally Posted by dread_stef View Post
Found this on another forum:
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/5...8zb5pe9yh0.jpg

Pencil mod for the sapphire 4850 dual slot non reference card.

Just applied it and it's running at 1.36v. Might be a bit high for 24/7 but I have no experience with it. It's currently running at 785mhz but I think I can push it a lot higher.
EDIT: Even at this voltage 785mhz is the max I can do. Guess I have a bad card or something, anything over this speed generates artifacts at atitool. It can't be the temps because I'm using a Thermalright HR-03 GT with a 92mm Zalman fan at max speed which gives me a max temperature of 56 degrees C.
ok guys i have a sapphire HD 4830 and im wanting to voltmod it
it is 100% identical to the non reference hd 4850

will the same voltmod work for this card as its just a 4850 with 640 vs 800 shaders
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Old Jan 6, 2009, 09:42 AM   #163
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The palit is no where near the same, i have taken it out tried to find the right place to soulder even using this guide

http://www.aoaforums.com/forum/hardw...mod-guide.html

No luck, i found some data sheets for the chip at the top left of the card, but had no fb pin.

Someone please help!

I want to pencil mod but cant find the right spot!
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Old Jan 7, 2009, 02:20 AM   #164
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Hi everyone, Merry Christmas to all

I have managed to take my HD4850 to GPU: 680 MHz and Memory: 1265(x2) MHz
I can't go further without volt modding my card.

Can you help me out please, I have attached a pic of my card.

Hope you can help me
Seems nobody in this thread can help
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Old Jan 8, 2009, 05:49 AM   #165
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with softmode im only touch GPU 750
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Old Jan 8, 2009, 05:51 AM   #166
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Old Jan 12, 2009, 07:46 PM   #167
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with softmode im only touch GPU 750
Your using the max voltage for bios mod right?
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Old Jan 18, 2009, 08:38 PM   #168
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The palit is no where near the same, i have taken it out tried to find the right place to soulder even using this guide

http://www.aoaforums.com/forum/hardw...mod-guide.html

No luck, i found some data sheets for the chip at the top left of the card, but had no fb pin.

Someone please help!

I want to pencil mod but cant find the right spot!
this guide is written 2007, way dated. I have a new ASUS 4850 TOP (Not reference) 680/1100 @720/1105, but I want more too. Perhaps someone will come around or point us to somewhere else. I looked pretty extensively for the past 3 days and really only find this thread on the subject

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BTW, this some SS :


Gaul, can you help me out with an ASUS 4850 TOP, thanks
The PCB is marked B501PML Rev 1.01 on the front. Sorry I do not have a camera for a pic

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Seems nobody in this thread can help
Try lowering the memory.. my his 4850 ref could only go 1100 without the pencil mod
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Old Jan 24, 2009, 05:46 PM   #170
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Anyone have 2x 4850's that have been volt modded or pencil modded in crossfire? Could I see some screenies.
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Old Feb 8, 2009, 01:19 PM   #171
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Hello peeps.
I have a sapphire 4850 (red pcb, should be same as reference) and installed an accelero twin turbo on it (35-36 idle - 45 full load with 690/1050 - 1.158v from ATT). I am thinking of pencil modding it but I am scared shitless of doing so.I have a digital multimeter but i am a noob and have no idea on how to use it.is there any good soul that would like to guide me maybe through msn messenger through the whole procesS??just pm me your msn id if so!Thanks in advance.
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Old Feb 10, 2009, 11:41 PM   #172
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It Wont Work

i tried the 1st pencil mod with a HB, 3B and 6B pencils and it wont work it only does 1.05 v at all times even when loaded which it is suppose to go to 1.2 v, do u think my cards vGPU regulator is broken?
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i tried the 1st pencil mod with a HB, 3B and 6B pencils and it wont work it only does 1.05 v at all times even when loaded which it is suppose to go to 1.2 v, do u think my cards vGPU regulator is broken?
You have to SCRIBBLE the hell out of that thing if your doing the 1st pencil mod, and I mean really really scribble that thing. Also you should do a bios flash so that it's higher then 1.05.... thats like lower then stock isn't it?

I would try to do the 2nd mod if thats your problem. The 2nd pencil mod that is because it is supposed be used when you need to go above 1.35v's.
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Old Feb 14, 2009, 04:24 PM   #174
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i SCRIBBLED it, both of the mods and nothing works it has no affect, how could i convince ncix its broken even thought it works fine but wont pencil mod?
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Old Feb 17, 2009, 03:58 PM   #175
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From what u say it sounds like u want to rma your card right?
Well theres one way i use and it has always worked!Flash your card with a bios(even the original) and at the moment it says:dont turn off or restart ,DO IT!!!RESTART your pc and the card wont have a bios to boot and it will be in operational!!!
Of course the shop wont susspect that!Or will it??
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