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Old Dec 25, 2008, 10:26 PM   #1
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Im unsure of this build guys

Hey All at Techpowerup im new here :P names Spook. well im building a new comp so far this is what i got.

Core 2 Duo E8400
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=3574211
Apevia X-Jupiter (i was going to go with the Tempest by NZXT)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=3424761
Asus P5QC Mobo
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=4016444
XFX Geforce 9800 GTX + <-- (unsure yet its either this or a regular GT or GTX)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=4037153
OCZ Sli-Ready 4Gb Ram
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=3404049

i also am unsure of a power supply how many watts do you guys think i should have? Please and thank you guys
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1 - go with the tempest
2- with a quality 500w - 600w you will be fine
3 - change the videocard for a 4850 and then crossfire
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But you know whats funny the tempest wont fit in my computer desk so thats why i decided to change. i am a bit unsure of the case since i couldnt find any good benchmarks on it. i need a case that supplies a good amount of airflow since im a gamer. hmmm ATI im usually with Nvidia ill go check it out. Thanks by the way.
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On Apevia's fans, they did faulty wiring. Yeah, they are that bad. resulted in short, smoke and some melted wires...
that all I have to say about them
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On Apevia's fans, they did faulty wiring. Yeah, they are that bad. resulted in short, smoke and some melted wires...
that all I have to say about them
eh mine work, except for the leds that burned out within 2 years
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Thanks for all the replies guys i just spoke with my dad and he said it doesnt matter upon the size and that i should stick with the Tempest just in case that everything wont fit in there. now that i think of it the 9800 is pretty big....yea ill go with the Tempest
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Hey All at Techpowerup im new here :P names Spook. well im building a new comp so far this is what i got.

Core 2 Duo E8400
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=3574211
Apevia X-Jupiter (i was going to go with the Tempest by NZXT)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=3424761
Asus P5QC Mobo
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=4016444
XFX Geforce 9800 GTX + <-- (unsure yet its either this or a regular GT or GTX)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=4037153
OCZ Sli-Ready 4Gb Ram
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=3404049

i also am unsure of a power supply how many watts do you guys think i should have? Please and thank you guys
I've changed a couple of things in this rig and thanks to lollerskater69 he convinced me to go with a Cooler Master case. So heres what i changed:

New Cooler Master Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119137
Again with lollerskater69's advice im going with a good Cpu cooler:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835154002
Change the CM's side panel to a clear one(later on though not asap):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811999177
Nvidia Geforce 9800 GT Superclocked:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...&sku=E145-9826

Yea im still not sure about a PSU any of you guys recommend one? i wouldnt go past $125 unless necessary. What do you guys think?
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Your best bet for the psu is probably the Corsair HX520 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139001

Otherwise stick with good brands such as Corsair, Seasonic, Antec, Silverstone, Thermaltake, Zalman, etc. DON'T skimp on the psu.

The rest of the build looks pretty good.
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Well the current computer im using has a Ultra X-connect of 500-Watt. Ultra came out pretty good for me and this one is on sale just don't know if its good enough. what do you guys think? if not ill aim towards that Corsair King Wookie Thanks by the way.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...393&CatId=1483
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hmm I haven't heard too much on ultra but that corsair should be a good option. yea. It maybe a good option.
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Thank kysg i appreciate it ^^ . Aww man tigerdirect stopped putting the memory and the E8400 on sale oh well on to newegg lol. Thanks for all your help guys. now i just need to convince my dad that everything will fit in the case, if only you guys could help there lol.
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what case is it tempest????

if it's tempest show him the actual pics and remind him that due to the fact that its a mid tower is a sure damn thing that a ATX board will fit in that case.

and If your dad want's to see a cramped case pm me and I'll show you mine and he can see the difference.
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If you go for the HX520W, you wont be needing to worry about power issues. Mine runs all my specs + my quad @ 3.6Ghz easily.
 
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Lol thanks guys you've been nothing but help these few days ^^. Also would like to thank lollerskater69 for immense help too ^^. Yea im going to go with that CoolerMaster 690 It looks pretty good, and good enough for me. Thanks guys.
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I would ditch the nvidia for a 4850, cause the p45 chip is based for crossfire. Also save some cash and go for the E5200, and I would change the board over to the P5Q PRO. Better OCer and solid performance(even with the E5200) IMO
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Hey All at Techpowerup im new here :P names Spook. well im building a new comp so far this is what i got.

Core 2 Duo E8400
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=3574211
Apevia X-Jupiter (i was going to go with the Tempest by NZXT)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=3424761
Asus P5QC Mobo
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=4016444
XFX Geforce 9800 GTX + <-- (unsure yet its either this or a regular GT or GTX)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=4037153
OCZ Sli-Ready 4Gb Ram
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=3404049

i also am unsure of a power supply how many watts do you guys think i should have? Please and thank you guys
GT performs much lower than that of the GTX and if your getting the GTX you get the GTX+ its been upgraded to a + for a reason and besides i doubt ull find many suppliers with normal GTX's anymore.

For the power supply I would recommend the Corsair HX620w - Modular, high efficiency great psu.
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Yea im still not sure about a PSU any of you guys recommend one? i wouldnt go past $125 unless necessary. What do you guys think?
I would recommend a Silverstone PSU, but this guide here will help you gain an understanding of good and Bad PSU's. PSU Guide by panchoman Its a great guide and ive used it a few times. My Silverstone PSU is also a single rail PSU, not a multi-rail, which i would recommend for your gfx card.
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I would recommend a Silverstone PSU, but this guide here will help you gain an understanding of good and Bad PSU's. PSU Guide by panchoman Its a great guide and ive used it a few times. My Silverstone PSU is also a single rail PSU, not a multi-rail, which i would recommend for your gfx card.
There is more options than silverstone although I do agree they are very good. lets not forget seasonic, pcp&C, and xigmatek, FSP

and unfortunately single rails cost more than multi rails...
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There is more options than silverstone although I do agree they are very good. lets not forget seasonic, pcp&C, and xigmatek, FSP

and unfortunately single rails cost more than multi rails...
you are right about single rail PSU's costing more, but i always found that multi rails had more issues when it came to powering higher end gfx cars, that required more amps on the +12v rail.

a gfx card that needs 30a for power, will be under powered if the rail has only 22, or 24a
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you are right about single rail PSU's costing more, but i always found that multi rails had more issues when it came to powering higher end gfx cars, that required more amps on the +12v rail.

a gfx card that needs 30a for power, will be under powered if the rail has only 22, or 24a
This is true but it depends on the card...which if it was a 4850x2, I'd understand. I know mine pushes, 18a on the +12v so I probably will be looking into a new PSU in the future.
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Guys with your help and lollerskater69's i think i've finally made up my mind lol heres probably the final build!
Intel E8400 and ATI 4830 combo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.149121
Biostar Mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138123
OCZ Fatal1ty Ram:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227334
OCZ PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341010
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Hey All at Techpowerup im new here :P names Spook. well im building a new comp so far this is what i got.

Core 2 Duo E8400
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=3574211
Apevia X-Jupiter (i was going to go with the Tempest by NZXT)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=3424761
Asus P5QC Mobo
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=4016444
XFX Geforce 9800 GTX + <-- (unsure yet its either this or a regular GT or GTX)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=4037153
OCZ Sli-Ready 4Gb Ram
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=3404049

i also am unsure of a power supply how many watts do you guys think i should have? Please and thank you guys
I don't know about the case, but the rest is good. Swap out the video card for an EVGA 9800GTX+, EVGA has better warranty and their version (the newer one) is 9 inches long (vs 10.5 on all other models) and only uses one 6 pin PCI-E power cable. The other 9800GTX's use two. The 9800GTX+ is better than the HD 4850 so stick with that choice. As for the PSU, make sure its a quality brand with at least 450W.
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the 4830 is a crippled 4850, if you cant afford a 4850 its ok, go for it and dont use ocz fatal1ty ram, they are charging you for the brand name (i mean fatal1ty), go with ocz gold
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