Has Israel Gone Stark Raving Mad??? - Page 4

SystemViper · Jan 16, 2009, 01:01 AM

here is an interesting timeline that goes way back in history, people keep clamoring for some kind oif reference that they might/have been there for ages, I have see so many history channel documentaries on the subject that it is a non issue to me but I found an easy to understand chart that gives some detail, I hope this ends the

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Have the Jews had been living there for ages

confuzion, I think they have, gotten their buts kicked out, and won back their land for ages.

even the crusaders kicked some butt...

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1099 - Crusaders conquer Jerusalem, slaughter most Jewish and Moslem inhabitants

Timeline

Now i don't agree or disagree with what is going on there because i have no point of reference, media is controled by both sides and we only see and hear what they want us to hear, so I believe nothing, unless i have studied it and lived it.

u2konline · Jan 16, 2009, 01:45 AM

The bottom line here folks, there is nothing wrong with Israel or Palestinian, etc. You can't say things like ' Has Israel gone stark raving mad '. The problem is human beings, what i mean by that, not everyone in Israel or Palestinian is killing each other. There are good people, and there is wicked people, or nice or good. So you can't blame Israel or Palestinian as a whole, there are just certain people within those lands who seem to like the idea of killing each other and people who have nothing to do with anything, are getting killed because of someone's else foolishness.

Do you understand what i am saying?

Alot of people have blood on their hands. People are really just fighting and dying for nothing.

CyberDruid · Jan 16, 2009, 01:50 AM

That timeline helped immensely. I was only aware of the struggling since about 1940 or so. That place has been in turmoil forever.

SK-1 · Jan 16, 2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TRIPTEX_MTL

always kills the angry and usually never the guilty.

Not always.....And what is wrong with killing anger?

TheMailMan78 · Jan 16, 2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberDruid

That timeline helped immensely. I was only aware of the struggling since about 1940 or so. That place has been in turmoil forever.

That was the point Iv been trying to make. This "war" is nothing new. Its been going on since before some of our cultures had free standing structures. My problem is they keep giving each other excuses to fight. IF Hamas stayed quiet along with some other Arab states that shall remain nameless Israel I personally believe would stay in their own yard. Given enough time peace might even follow. No one is innocent. Not even the countries condemning the war.

magibeg · Jan 16, 2009, 04:36 PM

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That was the point Iv been trying to make. This "war" is nothing new. Its been going on since before some of our cultures had free standing structures. My problem is they keep giving each other excuses to fight. IF Hamas stayed quiet along with some other Arab states that shall remain nameless Israel I personally believe would stay in their own yard. Given enough time peace might even follow. No one is innocent. Not even the countries condemning the war.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/...ent/index.html

I guess another problem would be getting them to not expand into others yards.

TheMailMan78 · Jan 16, 2009, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by magibeg

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/...ent/index.html

I guess another problem would be getting them to not expand into others yards.

Yeah thats what happen in my neighborhood too. These developers wanted to build a strip mall in the middle of a vacant lot next to my house so we fired rockets at their children.

SK-1 · Jan 16, 2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Yeah thats what happen in my neighborhood too. These developers wanted to build a strip mall in the middle of a vacant lot next to my house so we fired rockets at their children.

Wow,...That is pretty much as Black and White as it gets I'm afraid.

Nitro-Max · Jan 16, 2009, 05:44 PM

Dont really wanna start a huge debate or anything but heres my view on it and mods if this starts anything i appoligies in advance and you can delete this but i think Religion is a bad thing theres too many people divided by religion and using religion as a weapon to get away with things too many religious wars and killing in gods name.. i think racism is not about the colour of a persons skin anymore its religious racism now if you dont fit you are an enemy.

Religion is suppose to be about peace but its just not working.

TheMailMan78 · Jan 16, 2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitro-Max

Dont really wanna start a huge debate or anything but heres my view on it and mods if this starts anything i appoligies in advance and you can delete this but i think Religion is a bad thing theres too many people divided by religion and using religion as a weapon to get away with things too many religious wars and killing in gods name.. i think racism is not about the colour of a persons skin anymore its religious racism now if you dont fit you are an enemy.

Religion is suppose to be about peace but its just not working.

This war isn't about religion. It hasnt been since the first exile. Its more of a principle war now. Kinda like when two kids fight over a toy. After about 5 minutes its not even about the toy. Its about who wants it. I think this is the same thing we have going on in the middle east. Only the kids are two of the oldest cultures on the planet and have been fighting over the "toy" for 2000 years. It doesn't make any sense other than the other "kid" wants it.

thoughtdisorder · Jan 16, 2009, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

This war isn't about religion. It hasnt been since the first exile. Its more of a principle war now. Kinda like when two kids fight over a toy. After about 5 minutes its not even about the toy. Its about who wants it. I think this is the same thing we have going on in the middle east. Only the kids are two of the oldest cultures on the planet and have been fighting over the "toy" for 2000 years. It doesn't make any sense other than the other "kid" wants it.

Well somebody needs to put these little bastards in "time out".

Nitro-Max · Jan 16, 2009, 06:40 PM

I know they would like to Israel wiped off the map just because of its relationship with the usa. When most countrys surrounding hate the usa.

TheMailMan78 · Jan 16, 2009, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitro-Max

I know they would like to Israel wiped off the map just because of its relationship with the usa. When most countrys surrounding hate the usa.

They (Hamas) want Israel gone for so much more than that. Thats just a bonus.

iStink · Jan 16, 2009, 07:25 PM

This is the way I see it: Hamas is like a bully in grade school and Israel is the kid who has been taking karate since he was 6. Little bitch Hamas has pissed off Israel, and now that Israel is beating them, everyone else is looking on like, wow maybe that kid shouldn't be karate chopping that bully's collar bone like that!

Things will smear-- I mean work out...

FordGT90Concept · Jan 16, 2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

They (Hamas) want Israel gone for so much more than that. Thats just a bonus.

Israel wants Hamas gone too so who's the greater evil? They're both guilty of the same crime. Who did what first is quite irrelevant. They're both children.

TheMailMan78 · Jan 16, 2009, 08:56 PM

Well Hamas needs to be gone. Not the Palistinians. Hamas is bringing this upon its own people. Its pretty clear who the "evil" one is.

B1gg3stN00b · Jan 16, 2009, 09:23 PM

The Jews?

I mean, if I were Israel, and realized every surrounding nation hated me with a passion and wanted to see me utterly overwhelmed and eliminated from existence... I'd just gtfo

TheMailMan78 · Jan 16, 2009, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by B1gg3stN00b

The Jews?

I mean, if I were Israel, and realized every surrounding nation hated me with a passion and wanted to see me utterly overwhelmed and eliminated from existence... I'd just gtfo

And thats why you're not Jewish. Personally I wouldn't give up an inch. Cowards "gtfo". One day you run out of places to "gtfo" too. Then what? Bend over?

B1gg3stN00b · Jan 16, 2009, 09:32 PM

The Jews already have New York and Boston though?

CyberDruid · Jan 16, 2009, 11:10 PM

I sense a little Jew-baiting going on which is not wanted or appreciated. Just beacuse I am unwashed goyim doesn't mean I can't appreciate the complexity of the situation.

BTW I happen to have a mall being built within rocket range of my mountain. Coincidence? I think not. It's clearly a test by the Illuminati to see if I am going to bend over and take one for the team.

Well...I've got some Estes D-12 motors...

TRIPTEX_CAN · Jan 16, 2009, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SK-1

Not always.....And what is wrong with killing anger?

The angry are usually just following the suggestions of whoever will likely gain from the conflict. Or they are just defending what they consider to be theirs. Right and wrong, and therefore good and evil are relevant to those experiencing the event.

dalekdukesboy · Jan 17, 2009, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

Israel wants Hamas gone too so who's the greater evil? They're both guilty of the same crime. Who did what first is quite irrelevant. They're both children.

Hamas is a terrorist organization period...how the hell can you even compare Israel as a nation to a terrorist organization...that is just absurd and irresponsible as far as I'm concerned.

TheMailMan78 · Jan 17, 2009, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberDruid

I sense a little Jew-baiting going on which is not wanted or appreciated. Just beacuse I am unwashed goyim doesn't mean I can't appreciate the complexity of the situation.

Not from me buddy. I work for Jews. As far as I'm concerned they are good people. Its one reason I defend them when someone trashes the culture.

B1gg3stN00b · Jan 17, 2009, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by dalekdukesboy

Hamas is a terrorist organization period...how the hell can you even compare Israel as a nation to a terrorist organization...that is just absurd and irresponsible as far as I'm concerned.

Israel and the United States are two of the largest terrorist organizations on the planet.

We supply more weapons that kill more innocent civilians than every other country, if I'm not mistaken.

Terrorism, by definition, "those acts which are intended to create fear (terror), are perpetrated for an ideological goal (as opposed to a lone attack), and deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants."

Sounds just like American foreign policy.

TheMailMan78 · Jan 17, 2009, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by B1gg3stN00b

Israel and the United States are two of the largest terrorist organizations on the planet.

We supply more weapons that kill more innocent civilians than every other country, if I'm not mistaken.

Terrorism, by definition, "those acts which are intended to create fear (terror), are perpetrated for an ideological goal (as opposed to a lone attack), and deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants."

Sounds just like American foreign policy.

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u2konline Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Maryland, Dundalk Posts: 1,792 (1.00/day) Thanks: 107 Thanked 97 Times in 80 Posts System Specs	The bottom line here folks, there is nothing wrong with Israel or Palestinian, etc. You can't say things like ' Has Israel gone stark raving mad '. The problem is human beings, what i mean by that, not everyone in Israel or Palestinian is killing each other. There are good people, and there is wicked people, or nice or good. So you can't blame Israel or Palestinian as a whole, there are just certain people within those lands who seem to like the idea of killing each other and people who have nothing to do with anything, are getting killed because of someone's else foolishness. Do you understand what i am saying? Alot of people have blood on their hands. People are really just fighting and dying for nothing.

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CyberDruid Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: On top of a mountain Posts: 1,947 (0.94/day) Thanks: 818 Thanked 1,120 Times in 659 Posts System Specs	That timeline helped immensely. I was only aware of the struggling since about 1940 or so. That place has been in turmoil forever.

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TheMailMan78 Banstick Dummy Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Crystal River, FL Posts: 15,109 (6.93/day) Thanks: 1,337 Thanked 6,829 Times in 3,739 Posts System Specs	Well Hamas needs to be gone. Not the Palistinians. Hamas is bringing this upon its own people. Its pretty clear who the "evil" one is.

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B1gg3stN00b Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 672 (0.33/day) Thanks: 87 Thanked 111 Times in 102 Posts System Specs	The Jews already have New York and Boston though?

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