Misflashed hard to find HD3650 PLEASE help

Fuzzi · Jan 20, 2009, 03:52 AM

Hey folks, wow, well I feel like a total beginner again for the first time in years ._.
After having constant BSODs and CTDs in Fallout 3 I was advised to flash my videocard's
bios (infamous last words I know). So long story short, after ATIFlash reported it could
not write the old bios to a file, my patience or lack there of got me to flash without making
a backup and no matter where I look I can not find a comparable bios and and as I dont
know what I am doing with a hex editor and the ATI Bios editor does not support changing
certain options of said bios I have come to ask of ANYONE's assistance.

The stats of the old bios / card were as followed

ATI/AMD Radeon HD 3650 256MB - RV635 (purchased through dell)
RV635 A11 B38201 DDR2 - 16X16MB 725/500m

After flashing it I realised the replacement bios was DDR3 ... and after being presented with
the "Please reboot system for changes to take effect" I just sighed, knowing the headache that was about to ensue.. Thanks in advance if ANYONE can assist me, you would be saving me the headache of having to RMA through dell.

(Edit to save reading: Pics of the card)
http://www.furnation.com/fuzzi-fox/100_1164.JPG
http://www.furnation.com/fuzzi-fox/100_1172.JPG

sneekypeet · Jan 20, 2009, 03:56 AM

http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/i...ace=&memSize=0

That is a collection that is housed here, do any of those BIOS' fit the bill?

Fuzzi · Jan 20, 2009, 04:05 AM

Unfortunately not.. I have been looking all day for it, the only 256mb flavors are DDR3

Fuzzi · Jan 20, 2009, 04:10 AM

I mean I really dont even need the EXACT bios.. just something that someone figures MIGHT work.. I mean.. its not getting any more broken ;P

Fuzzi · Jan 20, 2009, 08:05 PM

Bump for possible answer? x.x
Thanks so far to those who have read and attempted to find a resource ^^

Frogger · Jan 20, 2009, 08:13 PM

What's the maker of the card?

Frogger · Jan 20, 2009, 08:15 PM

GPU-z= sub vendor id =???? #

Fuzzi · Jan 21, 2009, 12:10 AM

How do I find that out?

Frogger · Jan 21, 2009, 01:32 AM

if you already flashed the card then GPU-Z would report the vendor of the bios //// so you will need to get the Model# or FCC ID for the card & do a google on it

Frogger · Jan 21, 2009, 01:36 AM

I assume the card is dead ???? or can you still "see" it in the boot .... if so you might try flashing it to a ddr2 512 bios & see if you can get it to run

OR
Since the dead card will not POST anymore you have to use another graphics card as your primary VGA adapter to boot from it.
Then go into DOS and find out which adapter number your dead HD 3650 has using Atiflash {atiflash -i]. Now flash the BIOS using: atiflash -f -newbios -p[index] 3650.bin. Replace [index] with the number of your graphics card from the -i command.
Another way is using ATI Winflash from Windows. Start Winflash, select the correct card and flash away.
After the flash is done, remove the second card and boot from your now working HD 3650

if you can't find a 256 ddr2 bios you might have to edit the 512 one with a HEX editor

Fuzzi · Jan 21, 2009, 02:04 AM

So far I have flashed with one of the 512mb bioses, it works..but only half of it
(like its missing half its memory .. go figure lol) can I manipulate either:

http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/1...12.080307.html

or

http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/1...12.080221.html

to make them expect the 256mb? thanks SO much btw

PS.. if anyone who knows would do it for me you will be my ultimate hero XD (hex noob)

Fuzzi · Jan 21, 2009, 06:09 AM

So close to having this resolved... can anyone at least tell me how to do this so I can attempt it myself? x.x Thx!

Fuzzi · Jan 21, 2009, 09:53 PM

http://www.furnation.com/fuzzi-fox/100_1164.JPG <--- Picture of the card if its any use.. I can give ANY info regarding it

Frogger · Jan 21, 2009, 10:55 PM

will be working on the Diamond bios on monday for a client if possible wiil attempt a mod for you then

do you have a high res pic of the back of the card if so can you post it

??? is that the cooler that came on the card ??? LMK

Fuzzi · Jan 22, 2009, 01:41 AM

Here is the back of the card - and yes that is stock cooling.

http://www.furnation.com/fuzzi-fox/100_1172.JPG

Fuzzi · Jan 22, 2009, 02:55 AM

Thanks in advance if you get around to it by the way!.. this has been a huge setback so far

Fuzzi · Jan 22, 2009, 11:19 PM

Has anyone been able to identify the card at all? I cant find it anywhere and am guessing its a cheap vendor specific model x.x

Fuzzi · Jan 23, 2009, 05:19 AM

Here are some pictures of the current display from the card with the 512mb bios in it.. x.x
I figure it might help somehow... at the very least its interesting to look at

EiSFX · Jan 23, 2009, 05:48 AM

man thoes pics are crazy it almost looks like if you spin the moniter in circles fast enough you would get a clear full pic almost like thoes really old slide show moving picture things they had back in the old western days if anybody knows what i'm talking about

AthlonX2 · Jan 23, 2009, 05:53 AM

is there a sticker on the back that says what bios revision the card was using?

95Viper · Jan 23, 2009, 07:03 AM

Well, I located this bios for an EAH 3650 here about half way down the page:http://www.mvktech.net/index.php?opt...id=12&id=53330

Here is the file:Attachment 22178

And here is a link to look up cards at ATI:http://apps.ati.com/102lookup/

Good luck and hope it works for ya...

Fuzzi · Jan 23, 2009, 06:30 PM

Hmm thats a DDR3 bios.. :| thanks tho

Frogger · Jan 24, 2009, 12:31 AM

Can you retake this .pic.Can't read the high res

Fuzzi · Jan 24, 2009, 02:27 AM

More back shots of the card.. should be better to read
http://www.furnation.com/fuzzi-fox/100_1164.JPG
http://www.furnation.com/fuzzi-fox/100_1185.JPG
http://www.furnation.com/fuzzi-fox/100_1189.JPG

Fuzzi · Jan 24, 2009, 11:10 PM

Thread moved to:
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=82938

Also offering reward for said bios ^^ See new thread, thanks!

Jan 20, 2009, 03:52 AM	#1
Fuzzi Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 35 (0.02/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Misflashed hard to find HD3650 PLEASE help Hey folks, wow, well I feel like a total beginner again for the first time in years ._. After having constant BSODs and CTDs in Fallout 3 I was advised to flash my videocard's bios (infamous last words I know). So long story short, after ATIFlash reported it could not write the old bios to a file, my patience or lack there of got me to flash without making a backup and no matter where I look I can not find a comparable bios and and as I dont know what I am doing with a hex editor and the ATI Bios editor does not support changing certain options of said bios I have come to ask of ANYONE's assistance. The stats of the old bios / card were as followed ATI/AMD Radeon HD 3650 256MB - RV635 (purchased through dell) RV635 A11 B38201 DDR2 - 16X16MB 725/500m After flashing it I realised the replacement bios was DDR3 ... and after being presented with the "Please reboot system for changes to take effect" I just sighed, knowing the headache that was about to ensue.. Thanks in advance if ANYONE can assist me, you would be saving me the headache of having to RMA through dell. (Edit to save reading: Pics of the card) http://www.furnation.com/fuzzi-fox/100_1164.JPG http://www.furnation.com/fuzzi-fox/100_1172.JPG Last edited by Fuzzi; Jan 22, 2009 at 11:17 PM.

Jan 20, 2009, 03:56 AM	#2
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Jan 20, 2009, 08:13 PM	#6
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Jan 20, 2009, 04:05 AM	#3
Fuzzi Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 35 (0.02/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Unfortunately not.. I have been looking all day for it, the only 256mb flavors are DDR3

Jan 20, 2009, 04:10 AM	#4
Fuzzi Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 35 (0.02/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I mean I really dont even need the EXACT bios.. just something that someone figures MIGHT work.. I mean.. its not getting any more broken ;P

Jan 20, 2009, 08:05 PM	#5
Fuzzi Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 35 (0.02/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bump for possible answer? x.x Thanks so far to those who have read and attempted to find a resource ^^

Jan 20, 2009, 08:15 PM	#7
Frogger Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ONTARIO CANADA Posts: 1,932 (0.73/day) Thanks: 324 Thanked 243 Times in 216 Posts System Specs	GPU-z= sub vendor id =???? # __________________ You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline-it helps if you have some kind of a football team,or some nuclear weapons,BUT at the very least you need a BEER!-Frank Zappa

Jan 21, 2009, 12:10 AM	#8
Fuzzi Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 35 (0.02/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	How do I find that out?

Jan 21, 2009, 01:32 AM	#9
Frogger Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ONTARIO CANADA Posts: 1,932 (0.73/day) Thanks: 324 Thanked 243 Times in 216 Posts System Specs	if you already flashed the card then GPU-Z would report the vendor of the bios //// so you will need to get the Model# or FCC ID for the card & do a google on it __________________ You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline-it helps if you have some kind of a football team,or some nuclear weapons,BUT at the very least you need a BEER!-Frank Zappa

Jan 21, 2009, 01:36 AM	#10
Frogger Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ONTARIO CANADA Posts: 1,932 (0.73/day) Thanks: 324 Thanked 243 Times in 216 Posts System Specs	I assume the card is dead ???? or can you still "see" it in the boot .... if so you might try flashing it to a ddr2 512 bios & see if you can get it to run OR Since the dead card will not POST anymore you have to use another graphics card as your primary VGA adapter to boot from it. Then go into DOS and find out which adapter number your dead HD 3650 has using Atiflash {atiflash -i]. Now flash the BIOS using: atiflash -f -newbios -p[index] 3650.bin. Replace [index] with the number of your graphics card from the -i command. Another way is using ATI Winflash from Windows. Start Winflash, select the correct card and flash away. After the flash is done, remove the second card and boot from your now working HD 3650 if you can't find a 256 ddr2 bios you might have to edit the 512 one with a HEX editor __________________ You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline-it helps if you have some kind of a football team,or some nuclear weapons,BUT at the very least you need a BEER!-Frank Zappa Last edited by Frogger; Jan 21, 2009 at 01:50 AM.

Jan 21, 2009, 02:04 AM	#11
Fuzzi Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 35 (0.02/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Half success!! So far I have flashed with one of the 512mb bioses, it works..but only half of it (like its missing half its memory .. go figure lol) can I manipulate either: http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/1...12.080307.html or http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/1...12.080221.html to make them expect the 256mb? thanks SO much btw PS.. if anyone who knows would do it for me you will be my ultimate hero XD (hex noob)

Jan 21, 2009, 06:09 AM	#12
Fuzzi Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 35 (0.02/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	So close to having this resolved... can anyone at least tell me how to do this so I can attempt it myself? x.x Thx!

Jan 21, 2009, 09:53 PM	#13
Fuzzi Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 35 (0.02/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	http://www.furnation.com/fuzzi-fox/100_1164.JPG <--- Picture of the card if its any use.. I can give ANY info regarding it

Jan 21, 2009, 10:55 PM	#14
Frogger Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ONTARIO CANADA Posts: 1,932 (0.73/day) Thanks: 324 Thanked 243 Times in 216 Posts System Specs	will be working on the Diamond bios on monday for a client if possible wiil attempt a mod for you then do you have a high res pic of the back of the card if so can you post it ??? is that the cooler that came on the card ??? LMK __________________ You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline-it helps if you have some kind of a football team,or some nuclear weapons,BUT at the very least you need a BEER!-Frank Zappa

Jan 22, 2009, 01:41 AM	#15
Fuzzi Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 35 (0.02/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Here is the back of the card - and yes that is stock cooling. http://www.furnation.com/fuzzi-fox/100_1172.JPG

Jan 22, 2009, 02:55 AM	#16
Fuzzi Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 35 (0.02/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks in advance if you get around to it by the way!.. this has been a huge setback so far

Jan 22, 2009, 11:19 PM	#17
Fuzzi Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 35 (0.02/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Has anyone been able to identify the card at all? I cant find it anywhere and am guessing its a cheap vendor specific model x.x

Jan 23, 2009, 05:19 AM	#18
Fuzzi Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 35 (0.02/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Here are some pictures of the current display from the card with the 512mb bios in it.. x.x I figure it might help somehow... at the very least its interesting to look at Last edited by Fuzzi; Jan 23, 2009 at 05:25 AM.

Jan 23, 2009, 05:48 AM	#19
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Jan 23, 2009, 05:53 AM	#20
AthlonX2 Better Than You Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toledo,Ohio Posts: 5,449 (2.24/day) Thanks: 729 Thanked 1,572 Times in 994 Posts System Specs	is there a sticker on the back that says what bios revision the card was using?

Jan 23, 2009, 07:03 AM	#21
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Jan 23, 2009, 06:30 PM	#22
Fuzzi Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 35 (0.02/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hmm thats a DDR3 bios.. :\| thanks tho

Jan 24, 2009, 12:31 AM	#23
Frogger Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ONTARIO CANADA Posts: 1,932 (0.73/day) Thanks: 324 Thanked 243 Times in 216 Posts System Specs	Can you retake this .pic.Can't read the high res __________________ You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline-it helps if you have some kind of a football team,or some nuclear weapons,BUT at the very least you need a BEER!-Frank Zappa

Jan 24, 2009, 02:27 AM	#24
Fuzzi Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 35 (0.02/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	More back shots of the card.. should be better to read http://www.furnation.com/fuzzi-fox/100_1164.JPG http://www.furnation.com/fuzzi-fox/100_1185.JPG http://www.furnation.com/fuzzi-fox/100_1189.JPG

Jan 24, 2009, 11:10 PM	#25
Fuzzi Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 35 (0.02/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thread moved to: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=82938 Also offering reward for said bios ^^ See new thread, thanks!

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