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Old Jan 26, 2009, 12:18 PM   #1
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Danamics Retires LM10 Liquid-metal Processor Cooler

Danish company Danamics has officially given up on its liquid-metal LM10 processor cooler. Labeled as the world's first to use liquid-metal as cooling agent, and hoped to be better than many watercooling systems, the LM10 became nothing but a super overpriced piece of metal that's falling behind current top air coolers. No one saw it coming exactly because of these two things - its high price tag of 280 Euro for the base model and somewhat doubtful performance. Released two months ago, it is now history.
Danamics said that after LM10 it will focus on new products featuring liquid metal technology. These products will also be for the high-end computing market and will launch later this year.
Although it is not in production anymore, current owners of LM10 will be supplied by Dinamics with socket 1366 mounting kit free of charge.

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Old Jan 26, 2009, 12:20 PM   #2
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You think they would learn from their mistakes. However I guess its possible it was just a a bad design.
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Old Jan 26, 2009, 12:21 PM   #3
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i never saw any benches or reviews, anyone with good links?
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i never saw any benches or reviews, anyone with good links?
here you go my friend:
http://www.nordichardware.com/Reviews/?skrivelse=549

that's the first and only review of LM10 if I'm not mistaken.
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i never saw any benches or reviews, anyone with good links?
Ill spare you the trouble...its not worth looking for.
but anyw way here is link


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saw this comming though. high manufacturing cost for something what a cheaper heatpipe can do. definitely not feasible for income in the first place. Whats boggling though as to why they did not pit a prototype against top air coolers. Either they knew how the cooler performed and blind consumers/investors with gimmicky concepts or they live in some place remote void of any internet access and computer peripheral access.
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Old Jan 26, 2009, 01:30 PM   #7
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It was no wonder the reviews didn't hit the web till three weeks after the product launched. Created a pretty powerful magnetic feild from what I read... but sucked wind.
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Agreed. This should have been scrapped during prototype testing.
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EPIC FAIL. I'll leave it at that.

But I will give them props for an entirely new concept.
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They already had a higher performing prototype when this one was launched, probably helped the decision. Hope the next one is half the price and 1.5x performance.
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I give them props for supplying the lg1366 bracket for free. Probably because the only people who own one of these coolers work or worked for the company.
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Sounds like one of those deals where top management CEO/owner had this one as his idea and no one would dare tell him how moronic it was turning out to be. Fear of retaliation job loss or what ever kept the actual workers fudging #s etc to keep the boss happy hoping he would see the light and bail on it. Apparently that didn't happen. And we wonder how companies end up on their buttock.
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I knew this would become vaporware the moment I heard about it; it was just a matter of time.
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It is an interesting concept and idea but it was poorly integrated. It didnt fare any better than current top air coolers that cost 2/3rds the price. I hope the successor is cheaper and pushes the envelope more. Maybe add a fan to it.
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I look forward to their alternative liquid metal cooling products. Its a good idea, and in combination with current air cooling designs it would make for a great standard cooling. Like back in the good old days when they didnt know what to do with all those copper pipes so they invented the Asus Striker. Now if that had liquid metal going around it, it would have been ' cool ' <--< Lame. Without the magnetic field ofcourse, but thats just a noob error.
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what is the idea behind using liquid metal, I figure this can't be anyworse than using veggie oil
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what is the idea behind using liquid metal, I figure this can't be anyworse than using veggie oil
It uses more of a water cooling principal, however it uses a magnetic pump that circulates the liquid metal.
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oh I see. Makes more sense now.
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Seriously a few of you are sounding like people on family feud when the board flips over to reveal the answers they couldn't guess. Awe ya I new that, of course. When in fact no one knew this would be a failure, epic failure, let down, screw up, waist of money, etc etc.
However I do agree this should have been a proto type only and never made it to production. Why it did is beyond me. It's what I call an engineering master piece, looks like a work of art on paper but actual performance is anything but. Hopefully dynamics next attempt at this will be a success. I'm pulling for em
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Got to say as soon as it was announced I couldn't see how it was going to live up to their claims. The idea is sound using liquid metal to transfer heat quickly and efficiently, the downfall is in the implementation. The basic principles of cooling a high heat load transfer fluid is make the dissipation path short so that the heat can be effectively removed from the fluid. So you need a lot of small fins and lots of thin pipes to transfer the heat, think watercooling radiator I wouldn't be at all surprised if you slapped (effectively) a 120mm WC rad in the place of the tower cooler slapped on a couple of fans you would probably out perform the air coolers but you would still be lagging behind the watercoolers because they have so much more heat dissipation area available in the form of big radiators.
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