My Phenom II vs. QX9650 results at 3810mhz

sno.lcn · Jan 31, 2009, 09:42 PM

I tried to get settings on each system as close as possible for a fair comparison. I've had this done for a week or two now, but due to RL haven't been able to get it posted until now.

Deneb System:
Phenom II 940 @ 254*15
Gigabyte MA790GP-DS4H
2x1gb Team Xtreem PC8000 @ 501mhz, 4-4-4-10 2T
Gigabyte HD 4850 @ 750/1100mhz, 8.12 driver
Gigabyte ODIN Pro 1200w
WD Raptor 36gb
Windows Vista Ultimate

Yorkfield System:
QX9650 @ 401*9.5
Gigabyte EP45-UD3P
2x1gb Team Xtreem PC8000 @ 501mhz, 4-4-4-10 2T
Gigabyte HD 4850 @ 750/1100mhz, 8.12 driver
Gigabyte ODIN Pro 1200w
WD Raptor 36gb
Windows Vista Ultimate

*For PCMark 05, an ACARD ANS-9010 and a GTX 280 @ 770/1230 were subbed. That's why the scores are so high. That test could have gone either way though, as finicky as the benchmark is with no tweaking added.

I've been working on a 4ghz shootout, and have the QX9650 part finished and half of the Deneb part, but my single stage decided to crap out so I need to fix it first.

I would like to thank Gigabyte for both motherboards, the VGA, and the PSU.

LifeOnMars · Jan 31, 2009, 09:46 PM

Just the sort of thing i've been looking for. Now could you really be the MAN and post game performance with minimum average and max fps. I really want to justify my purchase of a phenom II 940 :0 Pretty please

exodusprime1337 · Jan 31, 2009, 09:47 PM

how did you get the aq3 score over 200k?? i only get 180k at 3.817 or 225x17? is there a way to set up aq to make it run better, i've selected all 4 cores in affinity and turned off everything?

Charper2013 · Jan 31, 2009, 09:48 PM

Wow looks like Phenom II is the way to go.. Are you using the Extreme Edition?

sno.lcn · Jan 31, 2009, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exodusprime1337

how did you get the aq3 score over 200k?? i only get 180k at 3.817 or 225x17? is there a way to set up aq to make it run better, i've selected all 4 cores in affinity and turned off everything?

What RAM clocks are you running? AM3 likes RAM and CPU speed lots.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charper2013

Wow looks like Phenom II is the way to go.. Are you using the Extreme Edition?

Yes, the unlocked black edition.

exodusprime1337 · Jan 31, 2009, 09:52 PM

i'm using ddr2 1150 @ 1192 5,5,512,2t

sno.lcn · Jan 31, 2009, 09:54 PM

Then that's not the problem I guess. Can you go higher on the NB frequency? I'm also seeing very nice gains from increasing fsb as well.

Charper2013 · Jan 31, 2009, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sno.lcn

Yes, the unlocked black edition.

Wow that means that QX9650 is not even nowhere near worth the extra 800$ more than the Phenom II.

exodusprime1337 · Jan 31, 2009, 10:01 PM

i'm thinking i'll try raising the fsb to where you got it and dropping the ram down a bit, i can't post at 1300Mhz mem so that's out of the question, but the 254 should be doable. and my nb is at 2800 or so right now. my mem bandwidth is insane from stock. huge increase in speeds and very low latency, like 34 or so.

sno.lcn · Jan 31, 2009, 10:07 PM

If you can tighten it up a little at a lower speed it may help. 1000mhz 4-4-4-10-12 is what I'm running, and can take it up to around 1140 at those timing.

philbrown23 · Jan 31, 2009, 10:28 PM

Thanks for this m8 now I know for sure AM3/ Phenom 2 is out of the question for my new build

wiak · Jan 31, 2009, 11:04 PM

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 = $340
Phenom II 940 Black Edition = $230
thats a freaking $110 diffrent...

exodusprime1337 · Feb 1, 2009, 01:37 AM

no wiak, he was specifiing the price between a p2 940-~220-250 us right now, vs an intel qx9650 which is at 1019.99 on the egg right now here's the link intel qx9650

Wartz · Feb 1, 2009, 05:08 AM

the QX9650 and the Q9650 are the same I think, the QX just has an unlocked multiplier IIRC.

sno.lcn · Feb 1, 2009, 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wartz

the QX9650 and the Q9650 are the same I think, the QX just has an unlocked multiplier IIRC.

Correct.

flyin15sec · Feb 1, 2009, 02:30 PM

Great review. Looking forward to more tests.

Feb 1, 2009, 02:32 PM

need some real world tests

LittleLizard · Feb 1, 2009, 02:58 PM

test some games

sno.lcn · Feb 1, 2009, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf2009

need some real world tests

Anything specific you want to see?

ShadowFold · Feb 1, 2009, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sno.lcn

Anything specific you want to see?

Games! Crysis, Left 4 Dead, STALKER Clear Sky, World in Conflict etc

dennisjai · Feb 1, 2009, 04:17 PM

sweet! clock for clock the phenom 2 loses, but it's really not by much, well worth the price.

farlex85 · Feb 1, 2009, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sno.lcn

Anything specific you want to see?

Could you do some Sandra Soft cpu tests? Perhaps time some big files being compressed, and maybe rip a blu-ray or dvd and time it.

sno.lcn · Feb 1, 2009, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowFold

Games! Crysis, Left 4 Dead, STALKER Clear Sky, World in Conflict etc

Quote:

Originally Posted by farlex85

Could you do some Sandra Soft cpu tests? Perhaps time some big files being compressed, and maybe rip a blu-ray or dvd and time it.

No problem guys, I'll get started this afternoon

cdawall · Feb 1, 2009, 04:42 PM

your scores are really really low

http://img.techpowerup.org/090129/Capture028.jpg

stock GPU clocks

http://img.techpowerup.org/090127/Capture027.jpg

thats just an 8800GTS it shouldn't even look at your card

farlex85 · Feb 1, 2009, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdawall

your scores are really really low

thats just an 8800GTS it shouldn't even look at your card

The 4850 is roughly equal to the 8800gts. A bit more powerful but not by much, w/ the oc on the gts they are pretty much equal. Your phenom oc'd further, and your using xp as opposed to vista. Considering all that, both your scores seem about in line w/ each other. Your only about 1k above on each of those (actually only 700 on 3dk6, which could actually easily be made up w/ tweaks).

Jan 31, 2009, 09:42 PM	#1
sno.lcn Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 592 (0.25/day) Thanks: 149 Thanked 146 Times in 87 Posts System Specs	My Phenom II vs. QX9650 results at 3810mhz I tried to get settings on each system as close as possible for a fair comparison. I've had this done for a week or two now, but due to RL haven't been able to get it posted until now. Deneb System: Phenom II 940 @ 25415 Gigabyte MA790GP-DS4H 2x1gb Team Xtreem PC8000 @ 501mhz, 4-4-4-10 2T Gigabyte HD 4850 @ 750/1100mhz, 8.12 driver Gigabyte ODIN Pro 1200w WD Raptor 36gb Windows Vista Ultimate Yorkfield System:* QX9650 @ 4019.5 Gigabyte EP45-UD3P 2x1gb Team Xtreem PC8000 @ 501mhz, 4-4-4-10 2T Gigabyte HD 4850 @ 750/1100mhz, 8.12 driver Gigabyte ODIN Pro 1200w WD Raptor 36gb Windows Vista Ultimate For PCMark 05, an ACARD ANS-9010 and a GTX 280 @ 770/1230 were subbed. That's why the scores are so high. That test could have gone either way though, as finicky as the benchmark is with no tweaking added. I've been working on a 4ghz shootout, and have the QX9650 part finished and half of the Deneb part, but my single stage decided to crap out so I need to fix it first. I would like to thank Gigabyte for both motherboards, the VGA, and the PSU. __________________ Heatware Last edited by sno.lcn; Feb 4, 2009 at 07:03 PM.

Jan 31, 2009, 09:47 PM	#3
exodusprime1337 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rhode Island, U.S.A Posts: 1,818 (0.91/day) Thanks: 138 Thanked 332 Times in 264 Posts System Specs	how did you get the aq3 score over 200k?? i only get 180k at 3.817 or 225x17? is there a way to set up aq to make it run better, i've selected all 4 cores in affinity and turned off everything? __________________ Visit My CaseMod, YOU KNOW YOU WANT TOO!!!!

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exodusprime1337 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rhode Island, U.S.A Posts: 1,818 (0.91/day) Thanks: 138 Thanked 332 Times in 264 Posts System Specs	i'm using ddr2 1150 @ 1192 5,5,512,2t __________________ Visit My CaseMod, YOU KNOW YOU WANT TOO!!!!

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LifeOnMars Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kettering,Northants. UK Posts: 2,242 (1.25/day) Thanks: 1,718 Thanked 401 Times in 337 Posts System Specs	Just the sort of thing i've been looking for. Now could you really be the MAN and post game performance with minimum average and max fps. I really want to justify my purchase of a phenom II 940 :0 Pretty please

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sno.lcn Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 592 (0.25/day) Thanks: 149 Thanked 146 Times in 87 Posts System Specs	Then that's not the problem I guess. Can you go higher on the NB frequency? I'm also seeing very nice gains from increasing fsb as well. __________________ Heatware

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exodusprime1337 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rhode Island, U.S.A Posts: 1,818 (0.91/day) Thanks: 138 Thanked 332 Times in 264 Posts System Specs	i'm thinking i'll try raising the fsb to where you got it and dropping the ram down a bit, i can't post at 1300Mhz mem so that's out of the question, but the 254 should be doable. and my nb is at 2800 or so right now. my mem bandwidth is insane from stock. huge increase in speeds and very low latency, like 34 or so. __________________ Visit My CaseMod, YOU KNOW YOU WANT TOO!!!!

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sno.lcn Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 592 (0.25/day) Thanks: 149 Thanked 146 Times in 87 Posts System Specs	If you can tighten it up a little at a lower speed it may help. 1000mhz 4-4-4-10-12 is what I'm running, and can take it up to around 1140 at those timing. __________________ Heatware

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exodusprime1337 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rhode Island, U.S.A Posts: 1,818 (0.91/day) Thanks: 138 Thanked 332 Times in 264 Posts System Specs	no wiak, he was specifiing the price between a p2 940-~220-250 us right now, vs an intel qx9650 which is at 1019.99 on the egg right now here's the link intel qx9650 __________________ Visit My CaseMod, YOU KNOW YOU WANT TOO!!!!

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cdawall where the hell are my stars Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: some AF base Posts: 16,027 (6.42/day) Thanks: 457 Thanked 2,755 Times in 2,224 Posts System Specs	your scores are really really low http://img.techpowerup.org/090129/Capture028.jpg stock GPU clocks http://img.techpowerup.org/090127/Capture027.jpg thats just an 8800GTS it shouldn't even look at your card __________________ Last edited by cdawall; Feb 1, 2009 at 05:16 PM.

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