what video card would you go with

trt740 · Feb 15, 2009, 08:59 PM

1.http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.160424

2.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130442

3.http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.159040

4.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150329

5.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102801

sli and crossfire are not a issue here. I will only be using one video card.

I like 1. the best, and then 2 and 3 equally , but part of me does not want to shell out the extra cash for the 4870x2

sweeper · Feb 15, 2009, 10:59 PM

I'd go with Sapphire.... Just my .02 worth. Good price, excellent reputation, and a very good rating.

wolf · Feb 15, 2009, 11:04 PM

I'd take the GTX285, Just a hair behind an X2, but with no multi gpu quirks, setups, profile or any of that mess at all. just one card that's almost as beefy as 2 - 4870's, and will utterly destroy one.

and one quirk I and many users run into quite often with Multi GPU setups is, you often hit single card performance. and that hurts.

A single 4870 or GTX285 will never have that problem, your pretty much always looking at the best performance the card can give you, which for the GTX285 over a 4870X2 means, generally higher minimum FPS, and thats what counts for the most IMO.

does it matter if the peak is over 100 fps if it still dips below 30?

id prefer a card that peaks at 80 with a minimum of 50. these are complete bogus example numbers, but they suit the purpose of the example.

Supreme0verlord · Feb 15, 2009, 11:10 PM

Yup, just like wolf said, go with the GTX 285 (number 2), best card for the money. Plus its from EVGA, the best nVidia graphics card manufacturer IMO.

spearman914 · Feb 15, 2009, 11:13 PM

I would personally go with the EVGA gtx 285. It's 1% performance less than the 4870x2 and $50 cheaper.

ShadowFold · Feb 15, 2009, 11:14 PM

You have a 4870X2 listed.. I would get that lol For single card I would get that Sapphire 4870.

Why not this 4870X2?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102768

sweeper · Feb 15, 2009, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowFold

You have a 4870X2 listed.. I would get that lol For single card I would get that Sapphire 4870.

Why not this 4870X2?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102768

understandably the GTX285 is a NICE card BUT running the card single and the difference in price???? How much performance with you ACTUALLY see running that card and the Sapphire or the other card Shodowfold listed?

ShadowFold · Feb 15, 2009, 11:24 PM

Well after using a GTX 280 and going to an HD 4830 I'm convinced they aren't powerful at all. Maybe the drivers were killing it but in gaming performance my 4830 performs the same at 1920x1080 and with high amount of AA and ASF.

sweeper · Feb 15, 2009, 11:25 PM

ALSO, the biggest is research... look at the ratings?????? The Sapphire card has the most reviews and has been tested as a very good card?

sweeper · Feb 15, 2009, 11:28 PM

4870 and 4830 can't be compaired.... the 4870 that's listed is a NICE card and will run games at any resolution. Plus Sapphire is excellent with there cards. Just me though I guess. But if you have the $500.00 to spend then there is no question the two top cards listed are what you want...why post the rest? Best bang for your buck would be the Sapphire. But again, I don't see why the post even is here if you are obviously looking at the top two cards. Honest opinion in single card operation and best buy with the best reviews is the Sapphire.

Psychoholic · Feb 15, 2009, 11:37 PM

So you're saying that your 4830 performs the same as the 280? Hmmm.. something was screwed up with your 280 then

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Originally Posted by ShadowFold

Well after using a GTX 280 and going to an HD 4830 I'm convinced they aren't powerful at all. Maybe the drivers were killing it but in gaming performance my 4830 performs the same at 1920x1080 and with high amount of AA and ASF.

wolf · Feb 15, 2009, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowFold

Well after using a GTX 280 and going to an HD 4830 I'm convinced they aren't powerful at all. Maybe the drivers were killing it but in gaming performance my 4830 performs the same at 1920x1080 and with high amount of AA and ASF.

not at all to discredit you mate, i value your opinion, but thats very odd indeed!

among many other cards inbetween, i have owned a 9800GTX, HD4870 and GTX260 c216, all of which i would slate at the same difference between eachother, in that order.

what i mean is 9800GTX < HD4870 < GTX260

with the 9800GTX being about 25% slower than the 4870 and ive found the 4870 to be about 25% slower than the GTX260.

all card were max oc'ed with a bios of my own flashed on...

i just find it odd and hard to believe you had a 4830 seem so "on par" with a GTX280, given the vast differences i have seen with similar cards...

Supreme0verlord · Feb 15, 2009, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowFold

Well after using a GTX 280 and going to an HD 4830 I'm convinced they aren't powerful at all. Maybe the drivers were killing it but in gaming performance my 4830 performs the same at 1920x1080 and with high amount of AA and ASF.

Man, either there was something horribly wrong with that 280 or your processor was bottlenecking the crap out of it.

ShadowFold · Feb 15, 2009, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme0verlord

Man, either there was something horribly wrong with that 280 or your processor was bottlenecking the crap out of it.

I had a Phenom II 940 @ 3.6ghz at the time.

Supreme0verlord · Feb 15, 2009, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowFold

I had a Phenom II 940 @ 3.6ghz at the time.

Well I don't know what was up with it then, thats just weird.

sweeper · Feb 16, 2009, 12:03 AM

I can't see a 4830 running @ the same speed as the GTX280. How ever there is no comparing a 4830 to the GTX 285. The 285 will walk the dog on the 4830. However........ the 4870X2 is excellent and on par with the GTX 285 though it's alot of $$$. If you plan on gaming ALOT on your PC and have the cash then grab it. If not and esp. since you are not planning on running 2X anyway then run the single 4870 either ASUS or Sapphire. IMO, the Sapphire.

trt740 · Feb 16, 2009, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweeper

4870 and 4830 can't be compaired.... the 4870 that's listed is a NICE card and will run games at any resolution. Plus Sapphire is excellent with there cards. Just me though I guess. But if you have the $500.00 to spend then there is no question the two top cards listed are what you want...why post the rest? Best bang for your buck would be the Sapphire. But again, I don't see why the post even is here if you are obviously looking at the top two cards. Honest opinion in single card operation and best buy with the best reviews is the Sapphire.

Actually that 260gtx is alot faster than the sapphire when both are maxed overclocked and at that price is the better deal. However, I like the sapphire aswell. I asked because I wanted to see what you thought and I don't have spend 500.00 if it's a waste of money. Also a 285 is really a 280gtx thats has a smaller die, less power requirements and throws less heat. If you overclock a 280 gtx it will match a 285 but be hotter etc.. and won't overclock as high (close but not as high). Also no 4830 can match a 280 gtx , no way , no how, impossible, maybe two 4830's crossfired and oced to hell and back. Something is wrong with your drivers. Also I like the asus because of the after market cooler ( also like AMD and like to support them), but there is no need to buy it if you think it's a waste. I have a 280 gtx now , but sold it so the 285 would be a greener , more efficient , and less power requirement (I have a 600 watt psu powering it now without trouble),

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowFold

Well after using a GTX 280 and going to an HD 4830 I'm convinced they aren't powerful at all. Maybe the drivers were killing it but in gaming performance my 4830 performs the same at 1920x1080 and with high amount of AA and ASF.

leaning towards this card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.159040 because of the double lifetime warranty, adds big time to the resale.

however ya gotta love this cards coolness factor and it will only cost me 184.00 after I add the proceeds from my 280 gtx. However drivers are a pain.
1.http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.160424

also might buy a 295gtx if the price was right and I could find the right brand.

LittleLizard · Feb 16, 2009, 12:46 AM

get the xfx gtx 285, i always used xfx, all my friends have xfx, and no one ever had any trouble with them

mlee49 · Feb 16, 2009, 01:05 AM

That XFX 285 looks amazing!! My suggestion.

Xazax · Feb 16, 2009, 01:10 AM

Have you thought about the HD4850x2 1GB? it costs the same as the HD4870 1GB

DrPepper · Feb 16, 2009, 01:11 AM

The 285 nearly beats the 4870X2. I'd totally go with that because it doesn't have the issues the high end dual gpu cards do. Oh and go EVGA they're the shit.

sweeper · Feb 16, 2009, 02:27 AM

Well if you have the 280 now (not sure why you would sell it) but anywho, you probably won't see a whole lot of difference in the 285. YES there will be a performance increase but I would just go for the 295.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130449

wolf · Feb 16, 2009, 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPepper

The 285 nearly beats the 4870X2. I'd totally go with that because it doesn't have the issues the high end dual gpu cards do. Oh and go EVGA they're the shit.

that or a cheap 280 clocked @ 285 speeds with a boosted fan, seems most 280's will hit 285 speed or higher

Psychoholic · Feb 16, 2009, 04:04 AM

Very nice card, this is the one i have.. wanted a 285 because i dont have the 8 pin connector on my psu.. and the XFX was the cheapest one on the egg.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlee49

That XFX 285 looks amazing!! My suggestion.

Cold Storm · Feb 16, 2009, 04:06 AM

My thoughts Trt. Try and find the 295. Throw Fits a thing on his hot deals. HE all ways seems to know something else we don't know..

But, I do think grabbing the Xfx 285 would be good for ya if you can't get a 295.. For the fact, you change your video cards as bad as underwear...

As for the 280 sweeper. That baby is now mine!!! Woot!

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Feb 15, 2009, 11:04 PM	#3
wolf Performance Enthusiast Join Date: May 2007 Location: Enrichment Center for Aperture Laboratories Posts: 5,312 (2.40/day) Thanks: 1,676 Thanked 844 Times in 707 Posts System Specs	I'd take the GTX285, Just a hair behind an X2, but with no multi gpu quirks, setups, profile or any of that mess at all. just one card that's almost as beefy as 2 - 4870's, and will utterly destroy one. and one quirk I and many users run into quite often with Multi GPU setups is, you often hit single card performance. and that hurts. A single 4870 or GTX285 will never have that problem, your pretty much always looking at the best performance the card can give you, which for the GTX285 over a 4870X2 means, generally higher minimum FPS, and thats what counts for the most IMO. does it matter if the peak is over 100 fps if it still dips below 30? id prefer a card that peaks at 80 with a minimum of 50. these are complete bogus example numbers, but they suit the purpose of the example. __________________ “my goal is speed, full ultra, and extreme gaming” -Ephraim “Yeah you can always overclock the 2gb memory to 4gb” -jaredpace

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Feb 15, 2009, 10:59 PM	#2
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Feb 15, 2009, 11:10 PM	#4
Supreme0verlord Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Elkhart, IN Posts: 472 (0.29/day) Thanks: 285 Thanked 234 Times in 135 Posts System Specs	Yup, just like wolf said, go with the GTX 285 (number 2), best card for the money. Plus its from EVGA, the best nVidia graphics card manufacturer IMO.

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Feb 15, 2009, 11:13 PM	#5
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ShadowFold Eligible for custom title Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 12,855 (6.49/day) Thanks: 1,381 Thanked 1,681 Times in 1,498 Posts System Specs	Well after using a GTX 280 and going to an HD 4830 I'm convinced they aren't powerful at all. Maybe the drivers were killing it but in gaming performance my 4830 performs the same at 1920x1080 and with high amount of AA and ASF.

Feb 15, 2009, 11:25 PM	#9
sweeper Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SW, Ohio Posts: 753 (0.24/day) Thanks: 146 Thanked 36 Times in 36 Posts System Specs	ALSO, the biggest is research... look at the ratings?????? The Sapphire card has the most reviews and has been tested as a very good card?

Feb 15, 2009, 11:28 PM	#10
sweeper Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SW, Ohio Posts: 753 (0.24/day) Thanks: 146 Thanked 36 Times in 36 Posts System Specs	4870 and 4830 can't be compaired.... the 4870 that's listed is a NICE card and will run games at any resolution. Plus Sapphire is excellent with there cards. Just me though I guess. But if you have the $500.00 to spend then there is no question the two top cards listed are what you want...why post the rest? Best bang for your buck would be the Sapphire. But again, I don't see why the post even is here if you are obviously looking at the top two cards. Honest opinion in single card operation and best buy with the best reviews is the Sapphire. Last edited by sweeper; Feb 15, 2009 at 11:33 PM. Reason: cuz

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Feb 16, 2009, 12:03 AM	#16
sweeper Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SW, Ohio Posts: 753 (0.24/day) Thanks: 146 Thanked 36 Times in 36 Posts System Specs	I can't see a 4830 running @ the same speed as the GTX280. How ever there is no comparing a 4830 to the GTX 285. The 285 will walk the dog on the 4830. However........ the 4870X2 is excellent and on par with the GTX 285 though it's alot of $$$. If you plan on gaming ALOT on your PC and have the cash then grab it. If not and esp. since you are not planning on running 2X anyway then run the single 4870 either ASUS or Sapphire. IMO, the Sapphire.

Feb 16, 2009, 12:46 AM	#18
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Feb 16, 2009, 01:05 AM	#19
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Feb 16, 2009, 01:10 AM	#20
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Feb 16, 2009, 01:11 AM	#21
DrPepper The Doctor is in the house Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Scotland (It rains alot) Posts: 6,423 (3.28/day) Thanks: 977 Thanked 828 Times in 667 Posts System Specs	The 285 nearly beats the 4870X2. I'd totally go with that because it doesn't have the issues the high end dual gpu cards do. Oh and go EVGA they're the shit.

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Feb 16, 2009, 02:27 AM	#22
sweeper Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SW, Ohio Posts: 753 (0.24/day) Thanks: 146 Thanked 36 Times in 36 Posts System Specs	Well if you have the 280 now (not sure why you would sell it) but anywho, you probably won't see a whole lot of difference in the 285. YES there will be a performance increase but I would just go for the 295. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130449

Feb 16, 2009, 04:06 AM	#25
Cold Storm Battosai Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In a library somewhere on this earth Posts: 10,566 (5.14/day) Thanks: 4,242 Thanked 3,047 Times in 2,493 Posts System Specs	My thoughts Trt. Try and find the 295. Throw Fits a thing on his hot deals. HE all ways seems to know something else we don't know.. But, I do think grabbing the Xfx 285 would be good for ya if you can't get a 295.. For the fact, you change your video cards as bad as underwear... As for the 280 sweeper. That baby is now mine!!! Woot! __________________ The only way success is before work, is in the dictionary Support for the mind. Support for your hardware

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