Finally, buying my new computer thursday

[u2konline]

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[spearman914]

BB rips people off. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102794 Much better AND CHEAPER!!!! 3650 = miles away from the 3850.

[farlex85]

$50 is a pretty good deal for any computer I'd say, so long as it works, good find. Except for a few occasional circumstances (when cards are first released), buying a video card from best buy is almost always a terrible idea, you could find cheaper video cards at literally any other place that sells video cards. If your terribly aversed to shopping online, get someone else to do it for you, no reason to get robbed. Or look for fry's or microcenter, although they are a bit overpriced too. Good luck w/ the computer though, make sure you power it on and such before handing over the cash. Although hell, even if it doesn't work $50 may be worth it depending on what it's got under the hood.

[freaksavior]

i work at best buy and i can agree they are expensive

[spearman914]

Originally Posted by freaksavior

i work at best buy and i can agree they are expensive

Yea they are. Saw a 8800 GT for $170 once. Off topic: Did u see at dell, they had a 9500 GT for $120.

[u2konline]

Bestbuy is expensive true, however i don't mind spending 80 bucks for that card(however read on). I am not on a budget, but i really don't feel like spending 100 or more for it, so 80 is good. And besides i am selling my fx5200, evga 6200, radeon 7000, jaton fx5200, Diamond 9250 at a computer shop and they are giving me 60 dollars for them. So its not like i am wasting money here.

So i only plan to keep my Visiontek 2400HD, Bfg 6200, and 3dfuzion fx5500 and a 8400gs for my P3. And for my new rig, i will have that 3650 1GB.

aND farlex85 Yea i will make sure to check it. It works tho, only thing that seems wrong with it, is the button on the dvd drive. But i will replace that. But yea i will make sure everything is cool before i buy it.

Anyways, peace.

[hat]

I can beat a GeForce 7100 for 50 bucks. Hell, if I sold my 8600GTS, I would probably sell it for $60, and it has a Zalman VF900 on it, not the stock cooler.

Oh look it's a 7300GS for $21.99 ($27.98 shipped to my location with UPS 3 day shipping). Too bad you don't buy anything online.

If the WHOLE COMPUTER is 50 bucks, then it wouldn't suprise me if
A. it doesn't work
B. it has parts stripped out of it... which would bring me back to A

[spearman914]

Originally Posted by u2konline

Bestbuy is expensive true, however i don't mind spending 80 bucks for that card(however read on). I am not on a budget, but i really don't feel like spending 100 or more for it, so 80 is good. And besides i am selling my fx5200, evga 6200, radeon 7000, jaton fx5200, Diamond 9250 and a computer shop is giving me 60 dollars for them. So its not like i am wasting money here.

So i only plan to keep my Visiontek 2400HD, Bfg 6200, and 3dfuzion fx5500 for my P3. And for my new rig, i will have that 3650 1GB.

aND farlex85 Yea i will make sure to check it. It works tho, only thing that seems wrong with it, is the button on the dvd drive. But i will replace. But yea i will make sure everything is cool before i buy it.

Anyways, peace.

ahhhh... Why can't u just go buy the 3850 @ newegg?? U won't regret it. But it's up to u. If 20 fps is playable to u then the 3850 won't be much of a difference.

[hat]

Originally Posted by u2konline

So i only plan to keep my Visiontek 2400HD, Bfg 6200, and 3dfuzion fx5500 and a 8400gs for my P3.

You're going to keep 4 video cards for one computer? Sell everything but the HD2400 or 8400GS... I'm not sure which is faster.

[spearman914]

Originally Posted by hat

You're going to keep 4 video cards for one computer? Sell everything but the HD2400 or 8400GS... I'm not sure which is faster.

http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-28...benchmark.html

[freakshow]

i had a 3650 once pop it in then through it in the trash cause thats what they are it trash

[ShadowFold]

I don't know to say. I would recommend some things but you always shoot them down. Just go with what ever you want.

[Error 404]

Don't bother with the 1 GB 3650, its completely pointless with the 1 GB of RAM on it. Go for anything of a similar price with less RAM, you'll be getting a faster card. 3850, 9500 GT, all those could wipe the floor with a 3650 1 GB. The 1 GB only makes it cost more with almost no performance boost.

[farlex85]

Originally Posted by u2konline

Bestbuy is expensive true, however i don't mind spending 80 bucks for that card(however read on). I am not on a budget, but i really don't feel like spending 100 or more for it, so 80 is good. And besides i am selling my fx5200, evga 6200, radeon 7000, jaton fx5200, Diamond 9250 at a computer shop and they are giving me 60 dollars for them. So its not like i am wasting money here.

So i only plan to keep my Visiontek 2400HD, Bfg 6200, and 3dfuzion fx5500 and a 8400gs for my P3. And for my new rig, i will have that 3650 1GB.

aND farlex85 Yea i will make sure to check it. It works tho, only thing that seems wrong with it, is the button on the dvd drive. But i will replace that. But yea i will make sure everything is cool before i buy it.

Anyways, peace.

I would argue that any time you spend more than you need to, you are wasting money. If your trading and such good job, but you could have done better. I would sell all those cards and get a decent one card, unless you just enjoy fiddling w/ low end stuff. You could easily sell all those and get a decent mid-range card (3850/3870, 8800gts 320, 4670, ect) which would open up much better gaming possiblilities.

[hat]

he hates cards with power connectors for some reason

[u2konline]

I am going to the pawn shop tomorrow and look it over and if everything works good, i will buy it tomorrow and go to best buy and buy the card. So if everything works out, i will have my new computer tomorrow.

And yes, i don't buy cards that needs a power connector.

I have a question

newegg / bestbuy says the card is a DDR2, but over at gpureview it says GDDR3?
http://www.visiontek.com/products/ca...0_1g_PCIe.html

[farlex85]

Originally Posted by u2konline

I am going to the pawn shop tomorrow and look it over and if everything works good, i will buy it tomorrow and go to best buy and buy the card. So if everything works out, i will have my new computer tomorrow.

And yes, i don't buy cards that needs a power connector.

I have a question

newegg / bestbuy says the card is a DDR2, but over at gpureview it says GDDR3?
http://www.visiontek.com/products/ca...0_1g_PCIe.html

I'd love to hear how you reason out playing games on a computer that strictly uses video cards without power connectors. Seriously, why?

And whatever the manufacturer's website says is the one that is most likely true.

[hat]

There are many different versions of any video card. On low/midrange cards, there are often both GDDR2 and GDDR3 versions. about a year and a half ago when I bought mt 8500gt, I stupidly bought a GDDR2 version, but there were GDDR3 versions available. Maybe I just couldn't afford it at the time...

[u2konline]

Originally Posted by hat

There are many different versions of any video card. On low/midrange cards, there are often both GDDR2 and GDDR3 versions. about a year and a half ago when I bought mt 8500gt, I stupidly bought a GDDR2 version, but there were GDDR3 versions available. Maybe I just couldn't afford it at the time...

If i can get a bigger image of the box, i will find out if its gddr3 or ddr2, either way seems like a pretty good budget card. The first 2 games which i plan to play on my new rig is Crysis demo, and JERICHO at max settings. Crysis demo i will play at 1280x1024 high/medium settings. However, Sound and shadows i will keep on low, seems like a waste to put them on high or even medium.

Originally Posted by farlex85

I'd love to hear how you reason out playing games on a computer that strictly uses video cards without power connectors. Seriously, why?

Well i just want to stick to the trend of not having to plug anything up to my video card. I understand alot of video cards require them to get full power or whatever, however, if they make cards without the need of them, why not buy it?
Also, this might sound silly, but i always had a fear of doing it, because it may decrease the life on the PSU or card, so i want to keep everything free.

Doesn't matter tho, whatever reasons, they make cards without the need of them, so its cool with me.

[RevengE]

Jesus not this again.

[hat]

It would only decreace the life of your power supply if you buy a crappy power supply, for example, pretty much all power supplies that ship with pre-built computers (gateway, dell, compaq etc) suck. However, my power supply's lifetime wouldn't be affected if I ran my old 8500gt or the card I have now.

Remember, that even though your video card doesn't have an external power connector, it still gets power from somewhere. It gets power from the PCI-E slot, which of course gets power from the 20/24 pin power connector on your motherboard, so wether you have an external power connector or not, you're still drawing power from your psu, just not as much. The limit for PCI-E 1.0 and 1.1 slots is 75W. The limit for PCI-E 2.0 slots is 150w. Because of this, I would not trust running a PCI-E 2.0 card that doesn't have an external power connector in a motherboard with PCI-E 1.0 or 1.1 slots.

I understand alot of video cards require them to get full power or whatever, however, if they make cards without the need of them, why not buy it?

As of this qutoe... why not buy it? Because these cards are slow compared to cards that do need an external power connector.

[RevengE]

and U2 I hope you realize that a computer you buy for 50.00 is not going to
Be worth your time.

[hat]

pfft. he can probably play crysis on an alarm clock and still be happy with it. we've tried learnin' the boy but he just won't take no learnin'

[RevengE]

Originally Posted by hat

pfft. he can probably play crysis on an alarm clock and still be happy with it. we've tried learnin' the boy but he just won't take no learnin'

Yeah Im sure.

[farlex85]

Originally Posted by u2konline

Well i just want to stick to the trend of not having to plug anything up to my video card. I understand alot of video cards require them to get full power or whatever, however, if they make cards without the need of them, why not buy it?
Also, this might sound silly, but i always had a fear of doing it, because it may decrease the life on the PSU or card, so i want to keep everything free.

Doesn't matter tho, whatever reasons, they make cards without the need of them, so its cool with me.

You gotta strike out every now and then get your feet wet. Your fear of power connectors is unfounded, and using ones that don't need it is fine if all your playing is wow or something. But your trying to play graphically demanding games, and no matter how well you think your computer is doing with them it's performing terribly, which is something you could easily remedy by simply taking some advice every now and then and trying something new. It's like somebody who refuses to go outside and enjoy the pretty colors b/c all they've ever done is sit inside and are afraid of going out and no matter how much others tell them it's fine they simply refuse all logic in favor of ignorance.

I also find it hard to imagine why you come to a tech forum full of people who build their own computers and constantly reject suggestions of how to make a computer better, and in fact fully intentionally keep it terrible. That's like going to a car enthusiast community and saying "hey look at my decade old plymoth reliant w/ 200k miles on it I just bought from the dealership. No I'm not gonna get any new parts or mess with it at all, I'm just gonna race it, it works fine." *facepalm* I'm all for if it works for you great and fiddling w/ old hardware and such, but your defying all logic here as to why you do what you do and why you tell us.