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Fitseries3 · Feb 28, 2009, 01:54 AM

i think i have figured out why my 295's fold odd.

the primary cores of each card have a 2d mode clock of 594/1293/1026

while the secondary cores have a 2d clock of 300/600/100

hence the reason why the primarys fold far faster than the secondarys and possibly the cause of my EUEs?

does my theory sound plausible?

WhiteLotus · Feb 28, 2009, 02:00 AM

when they fold they should both hit the load clocks.

Fitseries3 · Feb 28, 2009, 02:01 AM

they arent though. gpuz shows differently.

WhiteLotus · Feb 28, 2009, 02:03 AM

really? CCC shows my 3850 at full 100% load when i fold, look at nVidia equivalent.

Castiel · Feb 28, 2009, 02:05 AM

How much PPD will a Pentium 4 @3.0GHz put out?

stanhemi · Feb 28, 2009, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Castiel

How much PPD will a Pentium 4 @3.0GHz put out?

200-250ppd

_jM · Feb 28, 2009, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteLotus

really? CCC shows my 3850 at full 100% load when i fold, look at nVidia equivalent.

As you know CCC has been a buggy ass program since its release. I never trusted the temps/ load info/ or fan speed info....But either way, Im assuming that when folding on your GPU, it is at full load and clock speeds. Cept my old 4870 was at idle clocks when i folded.. so... maybe it depends on the cards and the manufacture's ..

BUCK NASTY · Feb 28, 2009, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Castiel

How much PPD will a Pentium 4 @3.0GHz put out?

Pentium 4's are notoriously inefficient and create alot of heat for what they do. I would try to fold something else.

BUCK NASTY · Feb 28, 2009, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fitseries3

i think i have figured out why my 295's fold odd.

the primary cores of each card have a 2d mode clock of 594/1293/1026

while the secondary cores have a 2d clock of 300/600/100

hence the reason why the primarys fold far faster than the secondarys and possibly the cause of my EUEs?

does my theory sound plausible?

Possible. Since you started with the 295's, I have been reading other forums trying to figure it out. It just appears that Vista 64 does not like the current Nvidia drivers. Others complain of the same exact scenario and it's always attributed to the drivers/Cuda. I have yet to see a VGA card problem that could not be worked around, but this appears to be one.

newtekie1 · Feb 28, 2009, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fitseries3

i think i have figured out why my 295's fold odd.

the primary cores of each card have a 2d mode clock of 594/1293/1026

while the secondary cores have a 2d clock of 300/600/100

hence the reason why the primarys fold far faster than the secondarys and possibly the cause of my EUEs?

does my theory sound plausible?

Running F@H should definitely kick the cards up to their 3D Clocks. Have you tried plugging something into the HDMI port like I suggested?

Fitseries3 · Feb 28, 2009, 03:05 PM

i dont have anything that uses hdmi nor do i have a hdmi cable.

BUCK NASTY · Feb 28, 2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fitseries3

i dont have anything that uses hdmi nor do i have a hdmi cable.

HDMI is absolutely necessary for getting the 2nd core into action. What about making some HDMI dummy plugs?

Fitseries3 · Feb 28, 2009, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BUCK NASTY

HDMI is absolutely necessary for getting the 2nd core into action. What about making some HDMI dummy plugs?

not entirely.

i have 3 outta 4 running steadily. just cant get the 4th to start.

Error 404 · Feb 28, 2009, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BUCK NASTY

Pentium 4's are notoriously inefficient and create alot of heat for what they do. I would try to fold something else.

Agreed, don't use anything Netburst for F@H.
Any old Athlon or even a Pentium M would do much better than a Pentium 4.
If you can find a graphics card to put in it, then underclock the CPU and fold using the graphics card; GPUs are far better at folding than any CPU can be.

Error 404 · Feb 28, 2009, 09:26 PM

I've installed the SMP client as per instructions in the other thread, but it is currently hung up on this:

Quote:

[21:53:20] Verifying core Core_a1.fah...
[21:53:20] Signature is VALID
[21:53:20]
[21:53:20] Trying to unzip core FahCore_a1.exe
[21:53:20] Decompressed FahCore_a1.exe (2035712 bytes) successfully
[21:53:25] + Core successfully engaged
[21:53:30]
[21:53:30] + Processing work unit
[21:53:30] Work type a1 not eligible for variable processors
[21:53:30] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[21:53:30] Core found.
[21:53:30] Using generic mpiexec calls
[21:53:30] Working on queue slot 01 [February 28 21:53:30 UTC]
[21:53:30] + Working ...

Its been "Working" for the last half an hour. What should I do?

BUCK NASTY · Feb 28, 2009, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Error 404

I've installed the SMP client as per instructions in the other thread, but it is currently hung up on this:

Its been "Working" for the last half an hour. What should I do?

Is it the E5200? Do you have a GPU client running at the same time? Has the GPU PPD dropped? Are you running 6.23 SMP?

Error 404 · Feb 28, 2009, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUCK NASTY

Is it the E5200? Do you have a GPU client running at the same time? Has the GPU PPD dropped? Are you running 6.23 SMP?

Don't worry, I've fixed it all; I disabled UAC (google said it might help), restarted, and then started up the SMP client. It appears to be working now and playing nice with the GPU client.
EDIT:
Is there meant to be four Fahcore_a1 processes running at the same time?

newtekie1 · Feb 28, 2009, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Error 404

Agreed, don't use anything Netburst for F@H.
Any old Athlon or even a Pentium M would do much better than a Pentium 4.
If you can find a graphics card to put in it, then underclock the CPU and fold using the graphics card; GPUs are far better at folding than any CPU can be.

I've fot a few netburst's folding. My Celerons@3.2GHz pump out about 150PPD, my Pentium D 805@2.66GHz pumps out about 700PPD. The 805's I have folding give more PPD than any of my single cores, including the Conroe based Celeron 430 I have folding. Of course they put out a shit load of heat and eat a lot more power...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Error 404

Is there meant to be four Fahcore_a1 processes running at the same time?

Yes, that is normal for the SMP client.

Error 404 · Feb 28, 2009, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newtekie1

Yes, that is normal for the SMP client.

Thats good, I was hoping it wasn't doing something weird...
And I have to say, SMP client is f*ing ridiculous; my CPU used to get 400 - 600 PPD per core, 800 - 1200 PPD total, with 755 point WUs. Now its got a 1760 point WU and is getting 2k PPD! This is insane!

Edit: your Celerons get 150 PPD? My laptop got 55 PPD when running a 401 point WU, and thats a PIII-850 MHz, using about 35 watts.

thoughtdisorder · Mar 1, 2009, 01:30 AM

OMG, I'm gonna get RM's old system after I build his new system! I will be so able to fold more units for TPU! I'm psyched guys! Woot!

johnspack · Mar 1, 2009, 07:00 AM

My little stats box should turn active by the morning......

Error 404 · Mar 1, 2009, 09:39 AM

How do I run the setup for my SMP client again without reinstalling? I want to be able to set the process priority to "Very High" when my computer is doing anything but gaming, but it refuses to go above "idle".

oily_17 · Mar 1, 2009, 10:03 AM

In your shortcut add -config after the -smp flag(leave a single space between the two) and when you start it will run through the setup again.

Be sure and remove it after you have it set the way you want or it will run each time you start.

BUCK NASTY · Mar 1, 2009, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnspack

My little stats box should turn active by the morning......

Welcome back. Congrats on your efforts for Stephanie. Do you know any other TPU members that were folding for her? Just trying to guess what our PPD jump will be.

Error 404 · Mar 1, 2009, 10:12 AM

It works, but I think I'll only set it to "below normal" or something like that, my computer nearly completely locked up running two processes at "very high"!

Feb 28, 2009, 01:54 AM	#4601
Fitseries3 Eleet Hardware Junkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 14,993 (7.29/day) Thanks: 4,318 Thanked 3,285 Times in 2,186 Posts System Specs	i think i have figured out why my 295's fold odd. the primary cores of each card have a 2d mode clock of 594/1293/1026 while the secondary cores have a 2d clock of 300/600/100 hence the reason why the primarys fold far faster than the secondarys and possibly the cause of my EUEs? does my theory sound plausible? Last edited by Fitseries3; Feb 28, 2009 at 02:01 AM.

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Feb 28, 2009, 02:00 AM	#4602
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Feb 28, 2009, 02:01 AM	#4603
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Feb 28, 2009, 02:05 AM	#4605
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Mar 1, 2009, 09:39 AM	#4622
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