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Old Mar 8, 2009, 12:33 AM   #101
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Even on an off week of not raiding I usually played over an hour a day. A week where I had a ton to do could be quiet a bit more, you played that much BF2?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMO

Left4dead, BF2, and diablo, NONE have a 'persistent world' or thousands of people on the same server.
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Left4dead, BF2, and diablo, NONE have a 'persistent world' or thousands of people on the same server.
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Left4dead, BF2, and diablo, NONE have a 'persistent world' or thousands of people on the same server.
eve-online

the only good mmo while adictive, it's not a common grinding game like the others, 50k'ish ppl at same time is the current record
http://www.eveonline.com/
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Comparing any addiction to that of drugs is a bit too much. Most drug addiction are chemical meaning that to do without the drug is like doing without food. The body craves it which leads to severe, physical withdrawal symptoms.

Addictions of other sorts do happen (e.g. gambling, athletics, etc.). All of which are mostly caused by a personality trait: impulsiveness. Impulsive people are more likely to get "addicted" to well, anything that suits them. It doesn't matter what activity you look at, there will always be people that fall into that crowd. Yes, they need help and not overcoming whatever that current "addiction" is; they need help understanding their impulsive tendencies.
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Comparing any addiction to that of drugs is a bit too much. Most drug addiction are chemical meaning that to do without the drug is like doing without food. The body craves it which leads to severe, physical withdrawal symptoms.

Addictions of other sorts do happen (e.g. gambling, athletics, etc.). All of which are mostly caused by a personality trait: impulsiveness. Impulsive people are more likely to get "addicted" to well, anything that suits them. It doesn't matter what activity you look at, there will always be people that fall into that crowd. Yes, they need help and not overcoming whatever that current "addiction" is; they need help understanding their impulsive tendencies.
I got addicted to diablo II, for about 3 years.

THe thing is you find it fun and enjoyable, so going without is going without fun. you get chemically addicted to the fun glands* in your brain. You then add in the friends/peer pressure factor and your friends in game convince you to play more than you originally intended.


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They probably do
Anyway I thing many of you have made my point. Also CPU Magazine classifies Left 4 Dead as a MMOFPS if my memory serves me well, but L4D did win for best all around MMO.
Since when is there ever been an MMOFPS? Since when did that become a genre? Might as well include the Halo series in that, GoW, and every other online FPS in that category then. Just leave the plain ol FPS category to its SP counter-part.
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Even on an off week of not raiding I usually played over an hour a day. A week where I had a ton to do could be quiet a bit more, you played that much BF2?
I've had the game since it came out but don't play as much anymore. I've played alot of it on unpatched servers when I was a noob because I didn't know what patches were
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Does any of u notice 99.99% of this forum is into FPS. WoW is surely not an FPS that's why we all hate it.
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the only good mmo while adictive, it's not a common grinding game like the others, 50k'ish ppl at same time is the current record
http://www.eveonline.com/
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OH lawd eve isnt that great, not intuitive at all
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OH lawd eve isnt that great, not intuitive at all
What I liked about Eve was I could set the game to do something then go play another game or gain skills while doing something more fun like minimising the game and playing something else.
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u shouldnt judge a game if all u did was bought it and left it unopened on your shelf - thats pretty ignorant dude. I agree with some peoples replies who have mentioned 'never judge a game u never have played yourself.' And by 'playing' i mean for a decent period of time not just watching your brother, or your friend, or a video on youtube etc...

Look at me for example, i started playing wow late 2007 ....at first i didnt knw wat all the fuss was about...how could one game be so addictive? For the first 3 days (thats right THREE WHOLE DAYS) i played it and thought..."hmmm this aint so spectacular...its not that GREAT" but then then on the 4th day i was like "hey this aint so bad" and on the 5th day i was like "wow this is fun" and from then on no othet game compared to WoW - in fact i stopped playing all other games for a good year solely because of WoW. Now tell me for a game that many call addictive, that has sold miliions of copies world wide, that has caused many to even still play it till now....how can you 'assume' that is it a bad game without even playing it...stupid if u tell me.

But, 1.5 years on from when i first started playing WoW, i now no longer play it. Ive stopped playing it not because it was getting boring but because there were just far too mnay things to do and so little time to do them. The subscription fee was not a problem for me.. I pay even more for my monthly internet connection fee, groceries per month etc....and yet u here complain about a measly couple of bucks for a game that needs to maintain way way way more servers and players than other other game? Not to mention frequent updates and patches that r the size of whole games and which change the whole dynamic and strategy of the whole world of azeroth. The fact is u didnt do your research when bragging about how crap a game is.

WoW is not addictive like cocaine, its only as addictive as u want it to be. Im an example of a person who pulled out with my own will like countless others. The fact is most people who point the finger at wow have purely never played it, or just join the rest of the sheep and judge the minority because they feel more cool - which is ironic to say since more people play WoW than other online game..oh the irony.
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Since when is there ever been an MMOFPS? Since when did that become a genre? Might as well include the Halo series in that, GoW, and every other online FPS in that category then. Just leave the plain ol FPS category to its SP counter-part.
Check out the CPU Magazine's Feb or March issue which state Left 4 Dead won for best MMO with WOW coming in 2nd place. So I am going by CPU Magazine. After reading up on MMO, I agree that L4D shouldn't really fall into that category, but I am not the one saying it
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Back in highschool I played Socom 2 on my old ps2 for like 2 years until the game just went into the crapper from lag and whatnot. Then everyone went their ways and my interest died in it. I know how addicting those games can be, but luckily I havn't been that addicted to a game since then.
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Old Mar 8, 2009, 08:43 AM   #114
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K a better equation
WoW = - ( time + money )
time = money
- money = hobo
- time = no work
no work = no money
no money = no life, no pc
no pc = poo
therefore WoW = POO!
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K a better equation
WoW = - ( time + money )
time = money
- money = hobo
- time = no work
no work = no money
no money = no life, no pc
no pc = poo
therefore WoW = POO!
mathematic proof that wow sucks.
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15$ a month, oh no! I only make that much in an hour at my work
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OK I got the info on Left 4 Dead. It got PC Game Of The Year in CPU Magazine's March 2009 - Vol. 9 - Iss. 03.

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The runner ups are 2nd place = Spore and 3rd place = WOW Wrath of the Lich King.

So I got MMO and co-op multiplayer confused

FarCry 2 won Multiplatform game of the year with Fallout 3 coming in 2nd and Prince of Persia in 3rd.
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Since when is there ever been an MMOFPS? Since when did that become a genre? Might as well include the Halo series in that, GoW, and every other online FPS in that category then. Just leave the plain ol FPS category to its SP counter-part.
Planetside. First ever MMOFPS. God that was good until Sony screwed it up.
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Tabula Rasa was a good MMOFPS. I played that a lot. It had a lot of RPG elements but at it's core it was a MMOFPS/RPG.
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i don't get this post.. even after reading the article i still don't know what prompted you to start this thread.. but since you did i'll run with it...

first, you're a moron... completely and utterly retarded... you're arguments make no sense.. out of 12 million plus people you bash a game... that you've never played(or even opened)

second, you bought a game never played it and didn't return it... that's worse then the fact that i willing know and pay the 15 bucks a month it costs.

third, yeah there are f'ked up people playin wow that have no lives, live at home(basement), have no social skills, and no will to do anthing else, but i see more in the news and on tv about people addicted to super smash brothers and madden getting kicked out of college, home, apartment because of their obsene addiction to a game that never really changes.

fourth, you've never played... wtf!!! that makes no sense.. either you got dumped by some chick who'd rather play wow than deal with you, or you have way to much free time on your hands, in which at that point in time you need to open that box and try the free trial and educate yourself

fifth, WoW players have no skills... i don't even know what the f*ck this means... everybody excels at differen types of video games, i for one can't play racing games for shit or flight sims... so i suck at video games... i do know that at any given point in time i have to strategically deal with over 80 different abilities and work through close to 100 buttons on screen at any given point in time while watching myself and 4 other teammembers health/mana while dealing iwth the enemy... fps= 10 buttons max for a casual player, and more often then that it's every man for himself..

sixth-l4d compared to wow... i don't even think l4d will sell as many copies of wow let alone have anywhere near as many dedicated players. yeah it won for cooperative play against wow.. which is roughly only like 28-35% of the total wow community as of the last WoW census(the award l4d recieves against wow is in pvp situations), so why don't we compare l4d to the other aspect 25man raids?? wait you can't have a 25man group in l4d... only 4...(what a joke)

and to the person who said they'd challange any wow player to fps and win.. my cod4,tf2, and cs:s team won both the ma and il showdown lan competiions last year. i'll take you up on that.

To everyone-grow the f*ck up-wow isn't a special game, the box doesn't come laced with anything, it's only addicting to some people because if fulfills basic needs like worth and happiness, if that's how someone wants to make themselves feel happy and needed then so be it. i'll tell you this at least while they're playing they're still consumers that spend money(that invariably has to come from somewhere), they don't purchase one game for 50 bucks keep it for a couple years then complain constantly over the fact that the patch isn't out yet(not like you're paying for a patch anyways so why so impatient)
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basically what I meant!!
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World of Warcraft is a real world trainer, it gives blizzard unlimited cash

I stopped playing WoW when I bought a new rig, transferred from a P4 2.4ghz with 512mb of ram and a 9550 ati radeon 256mb.. to a Q6600, 4GB of RAM, 4850 crossfire, it was satisfying and relieving! I moved on to playing modern games LOL, cause to me WoW is old and should only be ever played on my old P4 Rig.

The new MMO's coming up look sexy, these are what I call new-gen no matter how much of a grind it might turn out to be. "Blade and Soul" "T.E.R.A"
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They actually don't make all that much off of the monthly fee. Pretty much all of it goes into server upkeep/maintenance.
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They actually don't make all that much off of the monthly fee. Pretty much all of it goes into server upkeep/maintenance.
Hmmm 10 million players times $15.99 USD per month = $159,900,000 each month (without counting extra accounts p/ person and retail copies) ... I wonder how much they spend on server maintenance per week .
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The servers only hold 1000-2000 players from what I understand so that's an arse load of servers.
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