TPU's F@H Team - Page 199

johnspack · Mar 14, 2009, 03:28 AM

Conducting a little experiment, fired up my 9800gtx to see the difference in ppd on the 420 pointers. Also wanted to see if the 8800gs would pull down the ppd of the 9800 as they are in the same box. Results: 9800gtx 5259ppd, 8800gs 2903ppd. Conclusions? Edit: the gtx just jumped to 5336ppd, the 8800gs stay at or below 2900ppd.

BUCK NASTY · Mar 14, 2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by johnspack

Conducting a little experiment, fired up my 9800gtx to see the difference in ppd on the 420 pointers. Also wanted to see if the 8800gs would pull down the ppd of the 9800 as they are in the same box. Results: 9800gtx 5259ppd, 8800gs 2903ppd. Conclusions? Edit: the gtx just jumped to 5336ppd, the 8800gs stay at or below 2900ppd.

Do you have the 8800GS overclocked?

TheMailMan78 · Mar 14, 2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by blkhogan

I can game without a real problem at all while F@H. Your gfx will get pretty toasty with both going though.

@ MailMan: Where did you get that short poem in your siggy? I like it

I believe its an old Airborne poem.

Mar 14, 2009, 02:36 PM

edited mah bear

(chantards will know what it is

)

Will be folding when I go on my driving lesson . . . also downloading starcraft . . . should be quite productive!

*edit*

That WU finished pretty much as soon as I got back from my lesson - then I got slapped in the face by this big bastard

Ill crunch through it tomorrow whilst im at work. Think of the points ill get

johnspack · Mar 14, 2009, 05:34 PM

Hey Buck, yes, the 8800gs is at a whopping 756/1728/800 oc! The 9800gtx is at 756/1782/1100, so darn near the same clocks. Didn't think those extra few shaders would make such a difference.

BUCK NASTY · Mar 14, 2009, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by johnspack

Hey Buck, yes, the 8800gs is at a whopping 756/1728/800 oc! The 9800gtx is at 756/1782/1100, so darn near the same clocks. Didn't think those extra few shaders would make such a difference.

It's not just the shaders. It's the memory bitrate that affects it also.

johnspack · Mar 14, 2009, 06:56 PM

Oh great, now I can't get new jobs from the server, hope this doesn't last for too long! Edit: nevermind, it finally came back....

Kursah · Mar 14, 2009, 08:30 PM

I just noticed that these newer 5900 WU's have some interesting values. I've been doing a lot of 420Pt WU's under the 5900 series on my GTX260, averaging in the mid-8k range, but I fired up the G/F's 9600GT, and it somehow picked up this monster, that point value is close to the SMP Wu's my Q6600 is churning away!

hat · Mar 14, 2009, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kyle2020

edited mah bear

(chantards will know what it is

)

ahoy

Mar 14, 2009, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hat

ahoy

haha

PVTCaboose1337 · Mar 14, 2009, 08:46 PM

I have never gotten a WU over 511 points, and o man those 511's suck!

Kursah · Mar 14, 2009, 08:49 PM

Well my GTX just got one of those 5903's! 1680 pointer...I must've chosen higher than 10mb WU's when I set the clients up lol, never seeing anything this large before is interesting to say the least, but that's a long complete time for completion on a GPU WU imo. Here's a new screeny:

hat · Mar 14, 2009, 08:51 PM

check out my thread in the graphics cards > nivida forum... I'm trying to get 800MHz core stable... resluting in higher ppd

:/

newtekie1 · Mar 14, 2009, 08:56 PM

Yeah, I've been getting those 1680 monsters since yesterday.

Mar 14, 2009, 09:14 PM

So overall clocks produce higher PPD? Ive been running my 260 @ 650 / 1585 / 850 - would a higher core clock increase my productivity?

BUCK NASTY · Mar 14, 2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kyle2020

So overall clocks produce higher PPD? Ive been running my 260 @ 650 / 1585 / 850 - would a higher core clock increase my productivity?

Shaders are King in f@H. Then comes CPU and then Memory

Mar 14, 2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BUCK NASTY

Shaders are King in f@H. Then comes CPU and then Memory

hmm . . . ok thanks. Going to try increasing shaders now. On that big 1680 pointer haha.

pepsi71ocean · Mar 14, 2009, 10:15 PM

i just reinstalled winXP on my computer, when you install F@H does it write enteries tot he registry or can i just run the programs from the .exe, i saved the f@H related files and folders but i wasn't sure what goes on.

thebluebumblebee · Mar 14, 2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pepsi71ocean

i just reinstalled winXP on my computer, when you install F@H does it write enteries tot he registry or can i just run the programs from the .exe, i saved the f@H related files and folders but i wasn't sure what goes on.

Please read the sticky's

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Originally Posted by PVTCaboose1337

I have never gotten a WU over 511 points, and o man those 511's suck!

From another ATI Folder: You've never gotten the 548pt wu's? I get the same PPD on those as I do on the 384's. And yes, my lowest PPD's are on the 511's. I've never gotten anything bigger than the 548's.

driver66 · Mar 14, 2009, 11:37 PM

I've been getting nothing but these for DAYS

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johnspack · Mar 14, 2009, 11:56 PM

Well, those 5903s eventually throw guarded run errors on both of my cards. 4hrs worth of work gone on one and a couple more on the other. Thankfully my 9800 got a 5763 job, so I'll at least get some points today!

Kursah · Mar 15, 2009, 12:00 AM

Haven't seen any errors yet, and I don't know how long our rigs have been folding them, I just happened to notice, I just think that's a large WU for a GPU...I liked the thought of the smaller ones for the simple fact of fewer interruptions and less chance of corruption/errors. It's all good, I'll let my rig continue on folding away!

Mar 15, 2009, 12:30 PM

Wow - left my rig on for the final 4 hours of this 1680 pointer this morning - got back, and its 4% through ANOTHER 1680 pointer!

BUCK NASTY · Mar 15, 2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kyle2020

Wow - left my rig on for the final 4 hours of this 1680 pointer this morning - got back, and its 4% through ANOTHER 1680 pointer!

Can you run it 24/7? Alot of people think the rigs need rest, but this truly is not the case.

Mar 15, 2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BUCK NASTY

Can you run it 24/7? Alot of people think the rigs need rest, but this truly is not the case.

not really - the power it consumes is one thing, but the noise at night is unbearable for me, plus I game alot so you know. I fold for atleast 4 hours a day though.

Mar 14, 2009, 03:28 AM	#4951
johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,730 (1.81/day) Thanks: 283 Thanked 750 Times in 516 Posts System Specs	Conducting a little experiment, fired up my 9800gtx to see the difference in ppd on the 420 pointers. Also wanted to see if the 8800gs would pull down the ppd of the 9800 as they are in the same box. Results: 9800gtx 5259ppd, 8800gs 2903ppd. Conclusions? Edit: the gtx just jumped to 5336ppd, the 8800gs stay at or below 2900ppd. __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

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Mar 14, 2009, 02:36 PM	#4954
kyle2020 Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	edited mah bear (chantards will know what it is ) Will be folding when I go on my driving lesson . . . also downloading starcraft . . . should be quite productive! edit That WU finished pretty much as soon as I got back from my lesson - then I got slapped in the face by this big bastard Ill crunch through it tomorrow whilst im at work. Think of the points ill get Last edited by kyle2020; Mar 14, 2009 at 04:52 PM.

Mar 14, 2009, 05:34 PM	#4955
johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,730 (1.81/day) Thanks: 283 Thanked 750 Times in 516 Posts System Specs	Hey Buck, yes, the 8800gs is at a whopping 756/1728/800 oc! The 9800gtx is at 756/1782/1100, so darn near the same clocks. Didn't think those extra few shaders would make such a difference. __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

Mar 14, 2009, 06:56 PM	#4957
johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,730 (1.81/day) Thanks: 283 Thanked 750 Times in 516 Posts System Specs	Oh great, now I can't get new jobs from the server, hope this doesn't last for too long! Edit: nevermind, it finally came back.... __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260 Last edited by johnspack; Mar 14, 2009 at 07:17 PM.

Mar 14, 2009, 08:30 PM	#4958
Kursah Eligible for custom title Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Missoula, Montana, USA Posts: 6,558 (2.72/day) Thanks: 727 Thanked 1,349 Times in 1,118 Posts System Specs	I just noticed that these newer 5900 WU's have some interesting values. I've been doing a lot of 420Pt WU's under the 5900 series on my GTX260, averaging in the mid-8k range, but I fired up the G/F's 9600GT, and it somehow picked up this monster, that point value is close to the SMP Wu's my Q6600 is churning away! __________________ Overclocking is Easy! Get Results! - GTX 260/280 Unofficial Support Thread TPU's Gaming Headphone/Headset Thread - Share your experience - My Heat -

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Mar 14, 2009, 08:46 PM	#4961
PVTCaboose1337 Graphical Hacker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 7,478 (2.80/day) Thanks: 798 Thanked 1,174 Times in 834 Posts System Specs	I have never gotten a WU over 511 points, and o man those 511's suck! __________________ CPU-Z validation sig pics temporarily blocked

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Mar 14, 2009, 08:49 PM	#4962
Kursah Eligible for custom title Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Missoula, Montana, USA Posts: 6,558 (2.72/day) Thanks: 727 Thanked 1,349 Times in 1,118 Posts System Specs	Well my GTX just got one of those 5903's! 1680 pointer...I must've chosen higher than 10mb WU's when I set the clients up lol, never seeing anything this large before is interesting to say the least, but that's a long complete time for completion on a GPU WU imo. Here's a new screeny: __________________ Overclocking is Easy! Get Results! - GTX 260/280 Unofficial Support Thread TPU's Gaming Headphone/Headset Thread - Share your experience - My Heat -

Mar 14, 2009, 08:51 PM	#4963
hat Maximum Overclocker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 12,236 (5.15/day) Thanks: 2,054 Thanked 2,039 Times in 1,549 Posts System Specs	check out my thread in the graphics cards > nivida forum... I'm trying to get 800MHz core stable... resluting in higher ppd :/ __________________ My Heatware “Inb4 smartphone LN2 overclocking.” -radrok

Mar 14, 2009, 08:56 PM	#4964
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Mar 14, 2009, 09:14 PM	#4965
kyle2020 Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	So overall clocks produce higher PPD? Ive been running my 260 @ 650 / 1585 / 850 - would a higher core clock increase my productivity?

Mar 14, 2009, 10:15 PM	#4968
pepsi71ocean Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: The Peoples Republic of New South Jersey Posts: 1,034 (0.51/day) Thanks: 96 Thanked 134 Times in 120 Posts System Specs	i just reinstalled winXP on my computer, when you install F@H does it write enteries tot he registry or can i just run the programs from the .exe, i saved the f@H related files and folders but i wasn't sure what goes on. __________________ The 2nd Amendment isn't so you can hunt, it to protect the citizens from an oppressive government.... The New General Nonsense Forum Come and Join!! The Nvidia 8800 Series Overclocking and Feedback Thread

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Mar 14, 2009, 11:37 PM	#4970
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Mar 14, 2009, 11:56 PM	#4971
johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,730 (1.81/day) Thanks: 283 Thanked 750 Times in 516 Posts System Specs	Well, those 5903s eventually throw guarded run errors on both of my cards. 4hrs worth of work gone on one and a couple more on the other. Thankfully my 9800 got a 5763 job, so I'll at least get some points today! __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

Mar 15, 2009, 12:00 AM	#4972
Kursah Eligible for custom title Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Missoula, Montana, USA Posts: 6,558 (2.72/day) Thanks: 727 Thanked 1,349 Times in 1,118 Posts System Specs	Haven't seen any errors yet, and I don't know how long our rigs have been folding them, I just happened to notice, I just think that's a large WU for a GPU...I liked the thought of the smaller ones for the simple fact of fewer interruptions and less chance of corruption/errors. It's all good, I'll let my rig continue on folding away! __________________ Overclocking is Easy! Get Results! - GTX 260/280 Unofficial Support Thread TPU's Gaming Headphone/Headset Thread - Share your experience - My Heat -

Mar 15, 2009, 12:30 PM	#4973
kyle2020 Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	Wow - left my rig on for the final 4 hours of this 1680 pointer this morning - got back, and its 4% through ANOTHER 1680 pointer!

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