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Old Apr 7, 2009, 08:29 PM   #26
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Old Apr 7, 2009, 09:13 PM   #27
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I|m sure that this guy has had a lot of fun building 6 machines into a 19 inch rack. But 6x 4 GTXs could be improved using a PCIe expansion bay. Since this is a folding farm and not GPU SLI, he doesnt need x16 slots, so an extension bay would be quite practical. He could use x4 for the cards, and easily drive 8 or 16 cards from ONE PC.
That is not correct. The nVidia driver only supports 8 GPUs. I have spent a lot of time researching this issue and at the current time it's not possible to use PCIe extenders or motherboards that have more than 4 PCIe slots for this reason. It is also not possible to run VMs on a machine with PCIe backplanes because there is no VM software yet that allows virtualization of the GPUs for CUDA. Xen is working on it though.

You can see a discussion here: http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.ph...t=9340&start=0

and here: http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=9011

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What ppd do you get? Also whats the power usage like?
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It's Atlas that has it... Look here for details (ppd etc)
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The earth simulator had 41 teraflops of supercomputing power. it was #1 in the world starting in 2002 till 2004. It cost about 72 million dollars. congratulations on building an equivalent for under $30,000.
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On daily basis, how much time do you spend controlling all your Clients? At the moment I have only 6 Clients and sometimes I get more than one down while I'm at work.
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What ppd do you get? Also whats the power usage like?
My 24 hour average is ~267,000 PPD. You can see that here.

The power consumption of a single shelf is ~1,125 Watts. I have 5 shelves and more misc equipment. Power consumption is probably around 7,000 Watts continuous. I haven't added it all up lately.

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The earth simulator had 41 teraflops of supercomputing power. it was #1 in the world starting in 2002 till 2004. It cost about 72 million dollars. congratulations on building an equivalent for under $30,000.
Well thanks, but there is an important difference. True supercomputers use 64-bit floating point math (double-precision), Folding@Home makes do with 32-bit floating point math (single-precision). So yes, building supercomputers is getting cheaper fast, but there's still no free (cheap) lunch. If you need double-precision you still must pony up the cash.

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On daily basis, how much time do you spend controlling all your Clients?
Not much... I can check for dead EUE clients anywhere from my iPhone by going here, it's updated every 60 seconds. If I need to make a correction all of the machines are controllable through LogMeIn and I have LogMeIn Ignition on my iPhone so I can log into the servers from my iPhone and tweak things as necessary.

I made a post a couple of weeks ago about how I control and implement all of the clients. I think it's kinda slick even if I do say so myself, but necessity is the mother of invention. Controlling all the clients individually got old very, very fast. I had to think of a better way. You can see my post about that here.

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Thanks for coming to TPU and sharing your experience Jason. Great build(s), nice rack. I can see that perhaps the multiple PC route is easier than the extension bay option.

Did I understand you are driver-limited. Therefore max 8 GPUs per PC, so you would need a minimum of 3 independent PCs to run your 24 cards? Or does the x2 thing knock that down to just 4 cards (8 GPU dies)?

PS. Write to nVidia, show them your stuff, get them to fix the drivers, and sponsor your rack.
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The Atlas Folder, very nice folding setup.
I wonder what it will actually be crunching.
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Wow that is INSANE! I wish I had the money to do something like this.
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Old Apr 8, 2009, 01:36 AM   #38
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He was short a few cards on the bottom and it really kills the look of the system



Just kidding, and that's one hell of a folding rig you have!
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Welcome to TPU Atlas
It is neat to see all that awsome hardware (especially the GPUs) working hard to find a cure
For those that want to learn more about his cause, check out the link to his website at bottom of his sig.
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i think Folding@Home complete all research soon
i didn't hear any results like a cure or something and since 2000....

i'm skeptikal about this f@h do you know exactly what data is processed ?

Stanford say is protein folding and other molecular dynamics but is really this?
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I made a post a couple of weeks ago about how I control and implement all of the clients. I think it's kinda slick even if I do say so myself, but necessity is the mother of invention. Controlling all the clients individually got old very, very fast. I had to think of a better way. You can see my post about that here.

Thanks for the interest guys,

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Welcome -- I think it's really cool what you're doing to help out your Dad. Anytime anyone criticizes the amount of money it all costs, just remind them about that.

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i didn't hear any results like a cure or something and since 2000....

i'm skeptikal about this f@h do you know exactly what data is processed ?

Stanford say is protein folding and other molecular dynamics but is really this?
Ah, critics.

Cures take a long, long time to develop.
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@Atlas Folder: Are you also running SMP clients on the CPUs, or are you just doing pure GPU folding?
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I was expecting a custom, 23 PCI Express slot motherboard board loaded with GPUs (like a Tesla system). Needless to say, I'm disappointed. Anyway, that's quite a blatant waste of money and electricity, in my opinion.
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what cpu are you using Atlas??
I wonder if it is i7s...
I think you can also run WCG while folding...
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what cpu are you using Atlas??
I wonder if it is i7s...
I think you can also run WCG while folding...
The boards he seems to be using looks like the MSI K9A2 Platinum, an AM2 board. So I would guess he is running some kind of Phenom.
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damn! ... I am still confused about how you link up all those pcs, and how do you get them all onto one monitor...?
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