Bill Allows Obama Power to Shut Down Internet

95Viper · Apr 13, 2009, 12:48 PM

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/oba...l#xtor=RSS-181

I just don't know what to say!

Where and when, will this madness end?

There is a link to a pdf of the bill on the page.

The proposed working draft of bill:http://edge.networkworld.com/graphic...ity%20bill.pdf

WhiteLotus · Apr 13, 2009, 12:55 PM

good luck. I'll still have my interwebs.

Evo85 · Apr 13, 2009, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 95Viper

Where and when, will this madness end?

In about 3 yrs..........

BarbaricSoul · Apr 13, 2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Evo85

In about 3 yrs..........

and that's 3 years to long, OBAMA= One Bad Ass Mistake America

95Viper · Apr 13, 2009, 01:08 PM

I am still reading this thing and I cannot believe some of the cr*p in it.

Government Politicians need to stay out of setting policy for things they have no real grasp of.

Mussels · Apr 13, 2009, 01:11 PM

One angry comment has a way of snowballing when americans talk politics - Lets keep this one clean, and the thread wont get closed like every other politically themed one has.

h3llb3nd4 · Apr 13, 2009, 01:12 PM

I dont know what to say.... cos I really don't...

TRIPTEX_CAN · Apr 13, 2009, 01:14 PM

Just because he can doesn't mean he will. It cant be worse than legalized torture... can it?

paulm · Apr 13, 2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TRIPTEX_MTL

Just because he can doesn't mean he will. It cant be worse than legalized torture... can it?

+1

You guys (who believe this to be true/hate Obama) are all paranoid.

a. The bill is for prevention of cyber attacks. Think DDoS wars between nations.
b. It will not give him the power to shut down the internet, ever. It won't. Wouldn't be possible.
c. @BarbaricSoul, congratulations, Bush was obviously the best choice.

WhiteLotus · Apr 13, 2009, 01:16 PM

It would have to be one major incident to warrant closing the internet. Like every Hacker in the world all hacking the USA at the same time.

Mussels · Apr 13, 2009, 01:21 PM

he doesnt have the power to close "the internet" simply because most of its hosted outside the USA.

He will have the power to initiate defensive procedures in the event of cyberwarfare, or skynet invading.

DrPepper · Apr 13, 2009, 01:23 PM

Cybersecurity Emergency Plan.

This is similar to closing the US borders, Closing all air traffic to the US etc. Only in an emergency would this go into effect.

BarbaricSoul · Apr 13, 2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by paulm

+1

You guys (who believe this to be true/hate Obama) are all paranoid.

a. The bill is for prevention of cyber attacks. Think DDoS wars between nations.
b. It will not give him the power to shut down the internet, ever. It won't. Wouldn't be possible.
c. @BarbaricSoul, congratulations, Bush was obviously the best choice.

I'm not saying Bush was any good either. But when Obama made all these promises, and has gone against ALOT of them, he's no different than Bush was. I'm not trying to get this thread locked, so I won't discuss this here. Sorry Mods

Paulieg · Apr 13, 2009, 01:25 PM

Really guys, let's not turn this into a "trash the president" thread. I'm not in the mood, and I'll be watching.

TheMailMan78 · Apr 13, 2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TRIPTEX_MTL

Just because he can doesn't mean he will. It cant be worse than legalized torture... can it?

Ill take some water boarding before I give up TPU.

Closing the interwebz = American Revolution part 2.

ShadowFold · Apr 13, 2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPepper

Cybersecurity Emergency Plan.

This is similar to closing the US borders, Closing all air traffic to the US etc. Only in an emergency would this go into effect.

That makes the most sense. I can see a few things that could go wrong. A lot of people lose A LOT of money if the internet went off tho.

KieranD · Apr 13, 2009, 01:30 PM

he cant shut down the internet because it isnt based soley in america, think its a wide area network all over the planet

hed have to get every country to agree to it even then its not possible because all it is is communicating to other pcs via telephone line whats he going to do destroy every telephone line?

he is making sure things like cyber attack like Denial of service ect cant effect government

its like they put laws to stop terrorists they want to stop cyber terrorism now, they want to stop those internet thieves and internet hackers because they deam that to be a significant threat to national secuity now

WhiteLotus · Apr 13, 2009, 01:31 PM

Although they did say that the Power Grid in the USA is a bit vulnerable. Maybe this could have something to do with it so that it doesn't happen again.

DrPepper · Apr 13, 2009, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadowFold

That makes the most sense. I can see a few things that could go wrong. A lot of people lose A LOT of money if the internet went off tho.

Exactly imagine all the internet companies instantly losing business as well as internet order companies which would create a chain effect of affecting ATI, Intel etc. This would only be implemented if america was in extreme danger say a hacker got access to weapons etc.

TheMailMan78 · Apr 13, 2009, 01:32 PM

h3llb3nd4 · Apr 13, 2009, 01:33 PM

I really really don't know what to say there^^

KieranD · Apr 13, 2009, 01:35 PM

all i think is that happend was obahma made promises he was never able to fulfill in the first place due to various reasons

he realised when he never had the power to do everythign he said and everyone is against him or he never intended to change things for real

TheMailMan78 · Apr 13, 2009, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by h3llb3nd4

I really really don't know what to say there^^

We are talking about things that can't happen right? So why not some AT-AT love?

Mussels · Apr 13, 2009, 01:38 PM

Quite often things that turn up in fiction, have a somewhat solid basis in reality.

Die hard 4.0 - terrible movie, but made a lot of people aware that cyber terrorism is a real threat.
Terminator - sure skynets not likely to appear, but a nasty virus written by a foreign government as a premise to invasion/war, is definately likely.

Think of this as shutting the internet links off between the USA and the rest of the world temporarily, until the problem is gone. It will only be used in extreme situations.

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Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

We are talking about things that can't happen right? So why not some AT-AT love?

Because this is "networking and security" and not general nonsense.

TheMailMan78 · Apr 13, 2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mussels

Quite often things that turn up in fiction, have a somewhat solid basis in reality.

Die hard 4.0 - terrible movie, but made a lot of people aware that cyber terrorism is a real threat.
Terminator - sure skynets not likely to appear, but a nasty virus written by a foreign government as a premise to invasion/war, is definately likely.

Think of this as shutting the internet links off between the USA and the rest of the world temporarily, until the problem is gone. It will only be used in extreme situations.

Because this is "networking and security" and not general nonsense.

Off topic: Mussles I F*$KING love your new Avy.

Also this is nonsense. I'm in no way an Obama supporter. I don't like the guy at all. However bills like this are passed ALL the time. This is only a worse case deal. Nothing more. So I think giant robots having sex are just as likely as this bill happening.

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KieranD Eligible for custom title Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 5,456 (2.59/day) Thanks: 1,638 Thanked 821 Times in 712 Posts System Specs	he cant shut down the internet because it isnt based soley in america, think its a wide area network all over the planet hed have to get every country to agree to it even then its not possible because all it is is communicating to other pcs via telephone line whats he going to do destroy every telephone line? he is making sure things like cyber attack like Denial of service ect cant effect government its like they put laws to stop terrorists they want to stop cyber terrorism now, they want to stop those internet thieves and internet hackers because they deam that to be a significant threat to national secuity now __________________ http://myinstants.com/instant/transformer/

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