Naturally Aspired PC WaterCooling Club - Page 41

3dsage · Apr 8, 2009, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Wile E

Unplug your psu from everything but the pump, unplug it from the wall, and turn off the switch. Take a paperclip, and bend it to connect the green-wired pin with any black pins on the 20/24 pin connector. Plug the psu back in, turn on the switch, and it should turn on.

And teflon tape shouldn't be needed, but as long as none of it is in the water stream, you should be fine.

Nice man, cool trick I just learned.

I used teflon tape cuz I did get leaks at first on some fittings, the O-ring wasnt seating right it was getting stretched out on the base the more I tightened it. So I figured it was the only solution.

@ techniks, I see you did plan ahead with the psu issue.

Also thats an awesome looking rig man.

EDIT: Got it working with the paper clip, Nice!

3dsage · Apr 12, 2009, 04:57 AM

I added a Second Rad (DD Black Ice GT 240) to my loop and I got a nice temp drop. Just wanted to share this with you guys, I think its amazing what kind of temps i'm getting.

The pic is of my idle temps, Also my load temps decreased about 5-6C on both gpu and cpu.

BTW cpu 1.55V // Gpu 1.40V// (2D)

technicks · Apr 12, 2009, 02:51 PM

I doubt those temps are correct.

3dsage · Apr 12, 2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by technicks

I doubt those temps are correct.

Lol

4C on one of my core, I beleive the temp drop is real though.

Cold Storm · Apr 12, 2009, 09:46 PM

Where do you live? 3dsage?

viczulis · Apr 12, 2009, 09:49 PM

Where you live Alaska

3dsage · Apr 12, 2009, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cold Storm

Where do you live? 3dsage?

NW Burbs of Chicago

Those where taken at night and its like mid 30's (F),
My Rads are sitting by the window and my rigs out in the open.

Quote:

Originally Posted by viczulis

Where you live Alaska

I would hate that

mlee49 · Apr 14, 2009, 01:39 AM

Can someone help explain the use of a "top" in a loop? I'm not sure what the importance is for, flow? I'm a WC noob I know so any help is awesome.

DanishDevil · Apr 14, 2009, 01:52 AM

"Tops" as they're referred to are either for a pump or for a waterblock.

Ex. 1: Fit's acrylic tops for the DTek Fuzions are for aesthetics (they're clear plexi) and improve flow.

Ex. 2: XSPC's pump tops do a number of things like increase pump flow, water pressure, etc.

mlee49 · Apr 14, 2009, 01:53 AM

I'm assuming not absolutely necessary in most single loop setups.

DanishDevil · Apr 14, 2009, 02:00 AM

Well it's kind of like if you have a car. Let's say you want some more oomph, so you bolt on a better exhaust. It's really just up to you.

Tops are replacements, not addons.

Image taken from Madshrimps.be

The copper is the base, and the black plastic is the mid-plate and top. Not all blocks have a midplate and top, but the DTek Fuzion v1 does.

EastCoasthandle · Apr 14, 2009, 06:33 PM

You need to look at that link again

Cold Storm · Apr 14, 2009, 06:36 PM

Well going to do a full over hall on everything in the next 2 months.

Case, Rad, CPU Block, res, fittings...

tigger · Apr 14, 2009, 06:42 PM

Hey guys,how often do i need to flush my system out and change the water? Its been running flawless for at least 6mths.

Wile E · Apr 14, 2009, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigger

Hey guys,how often do i need to flush my system out and change the water? Its been running flawless for at least 6mths.

Whenever it starts getting nasty. lol. If it's still clear, and temps are still the same, you should be fine.

stevebaker · Apr 15, 2009, 01:43 PM

I'm guna be cooling 2 xfx 8800 gtx's but can you explain this in line cooling thing to me please? How does it work and what other options do I have here?

ace80 · Apr 15, 2009, 11:48 PM

Just a couple questions to all you w/c pro's:

I have the XSPC res top on my pump.

Is it mean't to be filled right up to the top eliminating air, or a small gap?
Also the pump does get very warm to the touch, almost hot, will this radiate to the res affecting performance? If so would it be worth getting an seperate res?

MRCL · Apr 16, 2009, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ace80

Just a couple questions to all you w/c pro's:

I have the XSPC res top on my pump.
http://img.techpowerup.org/090415/SS024-20090416.jpg

Is it mean't to be filled right up to the top eliminating air, or a small gap?
Also the pump does get very warm to the touch, almost hot, will this radiate to the res affecting performance? If so would it be worth getting an seperate res?

I am by no means a pro, but I have that res. And no, don't fill it to the top. Constantly add water until the loop is filled. I got a gap of about one, one and a half inch.

technicks · Apr 16, 2009, 12:21 AM

If you fill it to the top when the pump is on and you put the cap on, turning off the pump will cause the water to rise and may cause leaks. I have mine filled about 3/4mm under the top because this way the res will not get so dirty on the inside.

And this way it's easy for me to check the flow since the pump is so quiet. Also the pump itself stays very cool.

ace80 · Apr 16, 2009, 12:49 AM

Cheers guys, i'm glad i left a gap when i filled it then.

On a side note, the inlet tube through the middle of the res. Does it really have to be that long?
Just seems to me the water comes in then straight back into the pump, no circulation time in the res. Or am i talking bs

Wile E · Apr 17, 2009, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ace80

Cheers guys, i'm glad i left a gap when i filled it then.

On a side note, the inlet tube through the middle of the res. Does it really have to be that long?
Just seems to me the water comes in then straight back into the pump, no circulation time in the res. Or am i talking bs

It's probably there to help keep it more quiet, so the water coming from the line isn't splashing into the water in the res.

tigger · Apr 17, 2009, 11:22 AM

I've fitted a fill port to mine on the top of the case,with a tube from the fill port to the top on the res.

mlee49 · Apr 18, 2009, 03:46 AM

Ok so I got everything setup. I want to test the system before I put it on the board. How long should I let it run for? 4+hours?

I put Teflon tape around all the threads and am ready to cut the tubing and clamp them into place.

Any last minute checks I should go through before putting it in place?

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigger

I've fitted a fill port to mine on the top of the case,with a tube from the fill port to the top on the res.

Necessity is the mother of invention.

Oh and why the hell is this thread not Stickied!!!!

Binge · Apr 18, 2009, 03:48 AM

It will most likely leak in the first 30 min through hour of use.

mlee49 · Apr 18, 2009, 04:27 AM

Thanks I'll test it for a good hour before putting it on the system.

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Apr 12, 2009, 04:57 AM	#1002
3dsage Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: NW Burbs of Chicago Posts: 1,309 (0.79/day) Thanks: 465 Thanked 331 Times in 275 Posts System Specs	I added a Second Rad (DD Black Ice GT 240) to my loop and I got a nice temp drop. Just wanted to share this with you guys, I think its amazing what kind of temps i'm getting. The pic is of my idle temps, Also my load temps decreased about 5-6C on both gpu and cpu. BTW cpu 1.55V // Gpu 1.40V// (2D) __________________

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Apr 12, 2009, 02:51 PM	#1003
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Apr 12, 2009, 09:46 PM	#1005
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Apr 12, 2009, 09:49 PM	#1006
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Apr 14, 2009, 01:39 AM	#1008
mlee49 Eligible for custom title Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: KU Posts: 6,921 (3.50/day) Thanks: 1,598 Thanked 2,048 Times in 1,602 Posts System Specs	Can someone help explain the use of a "top" in a loop? I'm not sure what the importance is for, flow? I'm a WC noob I know so any help is awesome. __________________ Heatware: Mlee49 115-0

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Apr 14, 2009, 01:52 AM	#1009
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Apr 14, 2009, 01:53 AM	#1010
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Apr 14, 2009, 02:00 AM	#1011
DanishDevil Eligible for custom title Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,631 (3.10/day) Thanks: 1,362 Thanked 2,018 Times in 1,585 Posts System Specs	Well it's kind of like if you have a car. Let's say you want some more oomph, so you bolt on a better exhaust. It's really just up to you. Tops are replacements, not addons. Image taken from Madshrimps.be The copper is the base, and the black plastic is the mid-plate and top. Not all blocks have a midplate and top, but the DTek Fuzion v1 does. __________________ [B/S/T: FS/FT Cisco VPN Gigabit Routers \| WTB] [Logitech Z-5500 Digital Soundroom \| The TPU Darkroom \| The TPU Zune Social \| Tech Net Subscribers Club]

Apr 14, 2009, 06:33 PM	#1012
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Apr 14, 2009, 06:36 PM	#1013
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Apr 14, 2009, 06:42 PM	#1014
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Apr 15, 2009, 11:48 PM	#1017
ace80 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Surrey, England Posts: 375 (0.13/day) Thanks: 29 Thanked 28 Times in 22 Posts System Specs	Just a couple questions to all you w/c pro's: I have the XSPC res top on my pump. Is it mean't to be filled right up to the top eliminating air, or a small gap? Also the pump does get very warm to the touch, almost hot, will this radiate to the res affecting performance? If so would it be worth getting an seperate res? __________________ Rig 1 cooling - Swiftech Apogee XT rev 2 / Laing DDC 3.2 w/XSPC res top / HWlabs Black Ice GTS 360 Rad / Tygon R3603 clear 1/2" tubing

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Apr 16, 2009, 12:21 AM	#1019
technicks Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Enschede, The Netherlands Posts: 2,737 (1.06/day) Thanks: 268 Thanked 265 Times in 228 Posts System Specs	If you fill it to the top when the pump is on and you put the cap on, turning off the pump will cause the water to rise and may cause leaks. I have mine filled about 3/4mm under the top because this way the res will not get so dirty on the inside. And this way it's easy for me to check the flow since the pump is so quiet. Also the pump itself stays very cool.

Apr 16, 2009, 12:49 AM	#1020
ace80 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Surrey, England Posts: 375 (0.13/day) Thanks: 29 Thanked 28 Times in 22 Posts System Specs	Cheers guys, i'm glad i left a gap when i filled it then. On a side note, the inlet tube through the middle of the res. Does it really have to be that long? Just seems to me the water comes in then straight back into the pump, no circulation time in the res. Or am i talking bs __________________ Rig 1 cooling - Swiftech Apogee XT rev 2 / Laing DDC 3.2 w/XSPC res top / HWlabs Black Ice GTS 360 Rad / Tygon R3603 clear 1/2" tubing

Apr 17, 2009, 11:22 AM	#1022
tigger I'm the only one Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: HU5 1LL Posts: 7,210 (2.75/day) Thanks: 473 Thanked 951 Times in 780 Posts System Specs	I've fitted a fill port to mine on the top of the case,with a tube from the fill port to the top on the res. __________________ http://img.techpowerup.org/110324/v6351cpuzvalj197.jpg ]Monster E6300 oc http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/2163.html

Apr 18, 2009, 03:48 AM	#1024
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Apr 18, 2009, 04:27 AM	#1025
mlee49 Eligible for custom title Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: KU Posts: 6,921 (3.50/day) Thanks: 1,598 Thanked 2,048 Times in 1,602 Posts System Specs	Thanks I'll test it for a good hour before putting it on the system. __________________ Heatware: Mlee49 115-0

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