Checking RAM for Micron D9

spencer22l · Apr 29, 2009, 11:07 PM

Can I check my RAMs if they are Micron D9??

I recently got Kingston HyperX 8500 1G*2 and in a list it says some contains D9.
http://ramlist.i4memory.com/ddr2/

To be exact : "Micron D9GKX (B6-25E)"

Is there a way to check for this?
Do I have to remove the heatsink? If so how is it done safely so I can re use my heatsink.

DanishDevil · Apr 29, 2009, 11:14 PM

You have to take off the heatspreader.

If you RAM looks like this:

Pull the metal clips towards the top of the DIMM until they pop off. Then you should be able to pull each side of the heatspreader away from the PCB. Just be careful because Aluminum heatspreaders can bend if the thermaltape they use is really sticky.

Then your RAM IC's should look like this:

spencer22l · Apr 29, 2009, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanishDevil

You have to take off the heatspreader.

If you RAM looks like this:

http://img.alibaba.com/photo/1047071...D2K22G_RAM.jpg

Pull the metal clips towards the top of the DIMM until they pop off. Then you should be able to pull each side of the heatspreader away from the PCB. Just be careful because Aluminum heatspreaders can bend if the thermaltape they use is really sticky.

Then your RAM IC's should look like this:

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4581/d9gkxiclb5.jpg

It looks exactly like that.

So I first pull 2 metal clips toward the top til they pop off. Then I pull both right and left
side of the heat spreader in the opposite direction of each other, right?

Then I can just reuse it by putting it back together??

Thanks

DanishDevil · Apr 29, 2009, 11:26 PM

Yep, it's essentially metal held onto the memory chips by thermal tape. Let me find a pic for you...

Probably similar to that on each side, but not quite as gooey

spencer22l · Apr 29, 2009, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanishDevil

Yep, it's essentially metal held onto the memory chips by thermal tape. Let me find a pic for you...

http://forums.tweaktown.com/attachme...sc00005vl6.jpg

Probably similar to that on each side, but not quite as gooey

Alright, thank you very much for quick and great reply,
I'm gonna take a look real soon as soon as I'm done my work.

(I dun even know why I'm asking this when I'm so busy lol

)

DanishDevil · Apr 29, 2009, 11:35 PM

Hehe, let us know how it works out!

erocker · Apr 29, 2009, 11:38 PM

Just make sure you don't rip the chips off when you pull apart the heatspreader! Good luck!

kenkickr · Apr 29, 2009, 11:40 PM

If they feel like you have to really pull to get the spreaders off...take some goo gone and let a little sit in there for 10-15 sec and then try to pull gently, repeat til they come off.

Once off take some 70-90% Alcohol and cotton swabs, and clean the ram really good.

DanishDevil · Apr 29, 2009, 11:44 PM

Will the goo gone do anything to the thermal tape? Remember, he wants to be able to pop them back on and reuse them.

spencer22l · Apr 29, 2009, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanishDevil

Will the goo gone do anything to the thermal tape? Remember, he wants to be able to pop them back on and reuse them.

That's what I was wondering too, if I could just re use it ...

Anyways I'll think about that after I try.
I'm almost done my work, I hate works!

spencer22l · Apr 30, 2009, 12:49 AM

One more question before, do I check both or just one ram?
They're 2 in 1 module.. so I only need to check 1 right??

ace80 · Apr 30, 2009, 01:01 AM

In theory they should be the same, just take your time as erocker said.

tigger · Apr 30, 2009, 01:05 AM

I actually ripped 2 chips off a reaper stick trying to see what chips they were.

Be careful,if they feel like they're stuck really well,i'd give it a miss.

spencer22l · Apr 30, 2009, 01:06 AM

Thanks for the advise, I will really be careful!

ShRoOmAlIsTiC · Apr 30, 2009, 01:18 AM

dont want to hijack the thread but does anyone know what gskill uses in there F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK

sneekypeet · Apr 30, 2009, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShRoOmAlIsTiC

dont want to hijack the thread but does anyone know what gskill uses in there F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK

Did you try the link in the first post of this thread and see if they are listed?

spencer22l · Apr 30, 2009, 01:26 AM

wow I can't even take those metal clips out.

And I got 2 cuts...

Anyone go any suggestions?

And they look like these :

sneekypeet · Apr 30, 2009, 01:28 AM

carefully use a knife or sharpish utensil to pry them up a bit at the ends, they will eventually let loose. Be very careful not to cut yourself or scratch up the finish too badly. You do realize this is warranty voiding things you are attempting, correct?

spencer22l · Apr 30, 2009, 02:07 AM

Yes, thanks for the tip, I finally did it.
And I do realize that this voids the warranty.

After all that, it's not D9...

But it says :

Elpida TWN
E5108AJBG
-1J-E
074409B64

on the chip

Picture, isn't too good so I wrote it down.
Is this a good chip also.. ?

kenkickr · Apr 30, 2009, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanishDevil

Will the goo gone do anything to the thermal tape? Remember, he wants to be able to pop them back on and reuse them.

It wouldn't damage, like rip it to shit. It would just soften the tape so it would come off more easier. I use it take take backplates off for customers heatsinks that can't use it on their boards. Sorry I didn't respond sooner, my daughter and I were watching "Marley and Me."

Beertintedgoggles · Apr 30, 2009, 02:23 AM

I realize you already have the heatspreader off and sorry for the luck.... well, not sure if the Elpida clock all that well (only one true way to find out, push them hard) but with my ram I found that taking a heat gun (hair dryer will also work) to the spreaders will loosen the adhesive so you can pull the spreaders off. I pulled the spreaders off my Kingston ram (PC3200) hoping to find BH-5 or TCCD chips; they weren't but they were cooled better with airflow over the bare chips without the spreader.

spencer22l · Apr 30, 2009, 02:25 AM

You mean, your chip was cooler without any spreaders?
Or do you mean the thermal tape??

sneekypeet · Apr 30, 2009, 02:28 AM

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/272...ers/index.html

Check out the temperature testing on those.

spencer22l · Apr 30, 2009, 02:36 AM

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/27...rs/index8.html
This page??

Right now on stock 2.2v, my memorys are at 5-5-5-15 1136. Hopefully this will be stable.

DanishDevil · Apr 30, 2009, 04:21 AM

5-5-5-15 @ 1136 isn't bad.

That ramlist is mostly out of date. Many manufacturers use highly binned Micron chips to establish a name for RAM, and then for one of many reasons switch them out for other chips.

Congrats for finding out the truth for yourself

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spencer22l Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 262 (0.16/day) Thanks: 92 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	wow I can't even take those metal clips out. And I got 2 cuts... Anyone go any suggestions? And they look like these : __________________ CPU-Z validation sig pics temporarily blocked

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spencer22l Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 262 (0.16/day) Thanks: 92 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	Yes, thanks for the tip, I finally did it. And I do realize that this voids the warranty. After all that, it's not D9... But it says : Elpida TWN E5108AJBG -1J-E 074409B64 on the chip Picture, isn't too good so I wrote it down. Is this a good chip also.. ? Attached Thumbnails __________________ CPU-Z validation sig pics temporarily blocked

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spencer22l Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 262 (0.16/day) Thanks: 92 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	You mean, your chip was cooler without any spreaders? Or do you mean the thermal tape?? __________________ CPU-Z validation sig pics temporarily blocked

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spencer22l Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 262 (0.16/day) Thanks: 92 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/27...rs/index8.html This page?? Right now on stock 2.2v, my memorys are at 5-5-5-15 1136. Hopefully this will be stable. __________________ CPU-Z validation sig pics temporarily blocked

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