Remote Desktop Connection / Win XP

nora.e · May 8, 2009, 05:10 AM

Is any one familiar with this option on XP-32? I'm setting up a comp for my dad, who is an hour away. From what I can tell I should be able to log onto his comp from my house to help him with any probs he may have. But how do we set it up? Could some one please help me out with this or offer a link that would help? We both will be using a cable connection to reach the internet.

Thanks in advance.

CrAsHnBuRnXp · May 8, 2009, 05:16 AM

Im not sure about non-network computers, but for you, you HAVE to have at least XP pro, Vista Business/Ultimate. Home/Home Premium versions do not allow for remote desktop capabilities. They can only be controlled.

nora.e · May 8, 2009, 05:18 AM

I've got XP Pro 32, he's got XP Home 32

Tau · May 8, 2009, 05:19 AM

make sure his account has a password, then rightclick on my computer>properties>remote tab.

check the box that says "allow users to remotly connect to this comptuer" and thats it.

Also if he has more than one computer behinda router make sure you port forward the RD port to his computer.

Also note that windows XP one supports one active session as a time, so when you are remoted into the computer he will not be able to use it (he will see the windows login screen.)

To connect to it point your remote desktop client to his external IP (his routers IP) and it should connect just fine.

Mussels · May 8, 2009, 05:28 AM

to connect you'll either need to know the machines internet IP address and have ports forwarded, or use hamachi.

I find hamachi easier, as it doesnt matter if the internet IP address changes - you just use the hamachi one.

FYI, logging in via remote desktop is a "one at a time" deal. If he's logged in and you initiate a remote desktop connection, he will be logged out - so he cant see what you're doing, and vice versa.

nora.e · May 8, 2009, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tau

make sure his account has a password, then rightclick on my computer>properties>remote tab.

Would this be the pass word used at windows start up?

Tau · May 8, 2009, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nora.e

Would this be the pass word used at windows start up?

yes to log into his account.

CrAsHnBuRnXp · May 8, 2009, 05:42 AM

For whatever reason when I try to connecto to a PC via the computers internet IP address, I can never connect. Why?

Tau · May 8, 2009, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CrAsHnBuRnXp

For whatever reason when I try to connecto to a PC via the computers internet IP address, I can never connect. Why?

Ports are not forwarded would be my guess.

nora.e · May 8, 2009, 05:50 AM

Doesn't seem to want to connect. I've got my main comp and my back up side by side to try to figure it out.

As to not having the ports forwarded, how can this be fixed?

Tau · May 8, 2009, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nora.e

Doesn't seem to want to connect. I've got my main comp and my back up side by side to try to figure it out.

As to not having the ports forwarded, how can this be fixed?

You would need to set that up in your router.

Also it might be helpful to switch to static IPs that way you dont have to worry about the IP's not lineing up.

Mussels · May 8, 2009, 06:00 AM

or you can bypass the need for port forwards and use hamachi, as i said earlier

nora.e · May 8, 2009, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mussels

or you can bypass the need for port forwards and use hamachi, as i said earlier

I checked it out and it said that it looks easy, but it's not as easy as it looks. How (not) easy is it?

Mussels · May 8, 2009, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by nora.e

I checked it out and it said that it looks easy, but it's not as easy as it looks. How (not) easy is it?

install program on both machines. Start group with password.

Both machines join group. thats it.

There may be a lot of fussing around to get various GAMES working, but none of that is relevant for a VPN remote desktop connection.

Easy Rhino · May 8, 2009, 06:16 AM

dont bother with windows remote desktop garbage. use vncviewer. install the vncserver on his machine and install the vncviewer on your machine. he can be working at his desktop and you can login and mess with his mouse and fix things that go wrong while he watches. it is easy as pie and you just need to forward the proper ports.

Mussels · May 8, 2009, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

dont bother with windows remote desktop garbage. use vncviewer. install the vncserver on his machine and install the vncviewer on your machine. he can be working at his desktop and you can login and mess with his mouse and fix things that go wrong while he watches. it is easy as pie and you just need to forward the proper ports.

VNC also works through hamachi. thats how i fix my mums PC

nora.e · May 8, 2009, 06:32 AM

Ok, Hamachi is installed on both comps. I have a network set up that both are on. I've got a grey window that recognizes each other. Now what? It saids "status ready" but how do you get it to run?

Mussels · May 8, 2009, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nora.e

Ok, Hamachi is installed on both comps. I have a network set up that both are on. I've got a grey window that recognizes each other. Now what? It saids "status ready" but how do you get it to run?

your descriptions a little vague.. post a screenshot.

nora.e · May 8, 2009, 06:43 AM

I've found a users guide. I'll give that a shot.

DanTheBanjoman · May 8, 2009, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

dont bother with windows remote desktop garbage. use vncviewer. install the vncserver on his machine and install the vncviewer on your machine. he can be working at his desktop and you can login and mess with his mouse and fix things that go wrong while he watches. it is easy as pie and you just need to forward the proper ports.

How is RDC crap?

CrAsHnBuRnXp · May 8, 2009, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanTheBanjoman

How is RDC crap?

I second this. I prefer it over the other RD setups.

nora.e · May 8, 2009, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

dont bother with windows remote desktop garbage. use vncviewer. install the vncserver on his machine and install the vncviewer on your machine. he can be working at his desktop and you can login and mess with his mouse and fix things that go wrong while he watches. it is easy as pie and you just need to forward the proper ports.

Thanks Rhino this is exactly what I was looking for, and the first one that I was able to get to work.

Tau · May 8, 2009, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanTheBanjoman

How is RDC crap?

RDC Is great have been using it for a number of years now, i honestly prefer it over alot of VNC flavours.

DanTheBanjoman · May 8, 2009, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tau

RDC Is great have been using it for a number of years now, i honestly prefer it over alot of VNC flavours.

My point exactly, I've been using it for many years in many situations as well. Performance tends to be better, directly control of a Windows session. Option of running a separate session. The only alternative I ever use is DameWare, simply because it can push its server to the host and then start it. And when working over the internet with someone I can't access I use techinline, simply because I can use my works account and it's installed from the browser and has no firewall issues.

cjoyce1980 · May 8, 2009, 09:25 AM

its not crap, you just don't know how to setup it up correctly.

you need to know your internet IP address.
forward the RDP port on your router to the PC you want to RDP too.
enable the firewall on the PC to allow RDP.

it is that simple, as long as you know what you are doing with port forwarding and firewalls. I have this setup for so many of my families PC's just because its easier to help them out if they have screwed something up.

May 8, 2009, 05:10 AM	#1
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Tau Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 699 (0.31/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 94 Times in 90 Posts	make sure his account has a password, then rightclick on my computer>properties>remote tab. check the box that says "allow users to remotly connect to this comptuer" and thats it. Also if he has more than one computer behinda router make sure you port forward the RD port to his computer. Also note that windows XP one supports one active session as a time, so when you are remoted into the computer he will not be able to use it (he will see the windows login screen.) To connect to it point your remote desktop client to his external IP (his routers IP) and it should connect just fine. __________________ Communist Rule.

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nora.e Join Date: May 2007 Location: Boontullie MN. Posts: 204 (0.09/day) Thanks: 20 Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts System Specs	Doesn't seem to want to connect. I've got my main comp and my back up side by side to try to figure it out. As to not having the ports forwarded, how can this be fixed? __________________ Admit Nothing, Deni Everything, Make Counter Accusations!!!

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nora.e Join Date: May 2007 Location: Boontullie MN. Posts: 204 (0.09/day) Thanks: 20 Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts System Specs	Ok, Hamachi is installed on both comps. I have a network set up that both are on. I've got a grey window that recognizes each other. Now what? It saids "status ready" but how do you get it to run? __________________ Admit Nothing, Deni Everything, Make Counter Accusations!!!

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