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Old May 8, 2009, 04:36 AM   #5551
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X1950xtx can't fold only hd 2400 serie and up
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huh? I thought it was quite fast... WAY faster than my e8400 cpu....
Well I read several comments in this thread or somewhere the ATI were not as good. I really don't know I just started today.
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Old May 8, 2009, 11:11 AM   #5552
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huh? I thought it was quite fast... WAY faster than my e8400 cpu....
Fast is a relative term. ATI cards are faster than CPU's but clock for clock are much slower than NVidia cards at folding. Not sure why. Maybe the way the shaders are designed? The ATI cards use lot's of simpler shaders. The NVidia cards use fewer, more complicated, shaders.

For reference my Q6600 CPU @ 3.4GHz gets about 3000ppd depending on the WU. My GTX260 gets between 6000-8000ppd (depending on WU). My 8800GT gets about 4000-4500ppd.

So for example I think the 8800GT outfolds a 4870 but is waaay slower in games than a 4870. For whatever reason, when it comes to folding, NVidia is the faster choice.
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Old May 8, 2009, 04:59 PM   #5553
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My GTX 260 216 absolutely rocks. It fired up a 353 first thing and then hummed away at 8472 PPD. At stock! It was on an 1888 when I left and I believe was around 7500 PPD. It's actually pulling higher than I expected it to. When I come back and get it set up properly and OC'd this thing will fly. Perhaps in not too long I can add my second GTX260 216. With the numbers I was seeing I'd be looking at a theoretical of 22k ppd non OC'd. Ridiculous.
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My GTX 260 216 absolutely rocks. It fired up a 353 first thing and then hummed away at 8472 PPD. At stock! It was on an 1888 when I left and I believe was around 7500 PPD. It's actually pulling higher than I expected it to. When I come back and get it set up properly and OC'd this thing will fly. Perhaps in not too long I can add my second GTX260 216. With the numbers I was seeing I'd be looking at a theoretical of 22k ppd non OC'd. Ridiculous.
That's impressive points for stock clocks.What are the stock clocks on your card??

My 260 gets about ~7500 for the 1888 pointers.
My clocks are 724/1514/999
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Old May 8, 2009, 05:15 PM   #5555
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I'm not sure, I failed to get GPU-Z last night (I was having some big issues with my main rig and spending more time on it). However tonight I'll be looking it up and seeing whats up. Oh, also its running off of Win7. If I'm not mistaken Vista had better PPD than XP due to it requiring less CPU, Win7 could be the same.

Or maybe I somehow scored an SC in a Vanilla box. One can dream right?
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Old May 8, 2009, 05:18 PM   #5556
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Either way congrats on getting the new card running.

I may have to look at Windows 7 myself
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I couldn't turn down Win 7 build 7100, its free until March 1, 2010. It's also been pretty widely touted as stable and a good version. Not to mention they handed out keys like they were nothing. I somehow ended up with 3.

And thanks for the congrats, my wallet doesn't like it but CraiglesFoldingPC is online. Now my friend can truly hate me.
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My GTX 260 216 absolutely rocks. It fired up a 353 first thing and then hummed away at 8472 PPD. At stock! It was on an 1888 when I left and I believe was around 7500 PPD. It's actually pulling higher than I expected it to. When I come back and get it set up properly and OC'd this thing will fly. Perhaps in not too long I can add my second GTX260 216. With the numbers I was seeing I'd be looking at a theoretical of 22k ppd non OC'd. Ridiculous.
260's are they way to go if you can keep the heat under control. I get 8472 PPD each on 511pt WU from my dual MSI GTX260's 216sp @ 680/1450/1100 @60c. I normally run them part time, but have been running them 24/7 lately to catch up on PPD.
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Fast is a relative term. ATI cards are faster than CPU's but clock for clock are much slower than NVidia cards at folding. Not sure why. Maybe the way the shaders are designed? The ATI cards use lot's of simpler shaders. The NVidia cards use fewer, more complicated, shaders.

For reference my Q6600 CPU @ 3.4GHz gets about 3000ppd depending on the WU. My GTX260 gets between 6000-8000ppd (depending on WU). My 8800GT gets about 4000-4500ppd.

So for example I think the 8800GT outfolds a 4870 but is waaay slower in games than a 4870. For whatever reason, when it comes to folding, NVidia is the faster choice.
ATi cards aren't weaker than their nvidia counter-parts.. The F@H client only uses 320 of the shaders.
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thanks for clearing that up shadowfold.
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I didnt mean technically weaker just meant were not utilized as well. Maybe they can update the folding software to make it use more of the shaders eventually.
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Shouldnt that 'FOLD FOR TECH POWER UP!' sig thingy have a link to this thread?
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yarrrrrr, its been over a week and i haven't had any folding time in. i feel bad now. so many driver/windows conflicts lately.
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well TPU! has gone up another ranking on the team list. We are now 80!!
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well TPU! has gone up another ranking on the team list. We are now 80!!
Nice

Am I wrong or from 100 to 80 was pretty fast??

Seemed very fast to me
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Shouldnt that 'FOLD FOR TECH POWER UP!' sig thingy have a link to this thread?
Just edit your sig and make it click-able.
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yes I know.... I was pointing it out for the few dozen people who put it in their sig and didnt link it to anything.
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it took me 2 months to get to 102
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my 260gtx is hammering with my new CPU. I'm selling my 260gtx and getting a 285 so I should get a little faster. I think the ATI cards for some reason are a bit slower
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Shutting down production for a few days. Bogmali keep my place warm. You know, the one some refer to as 'the lead'. I'll be taking her back as soon as I can.

Some quick numbers. Second rig helped me pull 23k PPD in 24 hours, and that's still stock (be afraid Bog, wooooo). And we almost crested 400k last night. Back up where we were. Sorry about losing you guys a chunk of that for a few days. I expect an XS penalty or two and I promise not to have too much fun.
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