Core 2 Duo E8700 Gets Listed, Price Displacement Model Stays - Page 2

Triton.se · May 15, 2009, 09:36 PM

I sure would wanted a tri-core 775 chip instead of this. 1-3 games in PC world (all ported from multi cpu console) makes PC sellers wanna sell their new cpus....

infrared · May 15, 2009, 09:43 PM

I'll admit socket 775 stuff has been around for a long time, but I don't plan on upgrading my E8400 any time soon.

Clocked to 4.5GHz (563x8) 24/7... No game will max this processor for some time to come.

Obsolete?! Hell no!

alexp999 · May 15, 2009, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snakeoil

beating a dead horse
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attach...1&d=1242408245

intel is beating a dead horse, core 2 is an old architecture that cannot be further improved
and is beginning to retire it.

Intel Core 2 Era Comes to the End: Intel Discontinues X48 Mainboard.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mainboa...Mainboard.html

That link is to an article about Intel discontinuing the DX48BT2, it says nothing (other than speculation) about Intel Discontinuing the X48 chipset, or in fact any of Intel's other LGA 775 motherboards or chipsets.

Please dont come into a thread and start flamebaiting or making things personal with other members. Everyone is entitled to thier own opinion, you have made yours, you don't need to repeat yourself

a_ump · May 15, 2009, 10:08 PM

i wish they'd quit playing around and just release the E9000 @ 4ghz :P. yea i see this chip only benefitting those that are building new budget pc's as it'll hopefully lower current intel CPU prices some. And of course it should help those enthusiasts set new oc records

phanbuey · May 15, 2009, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infrared

I'll admit socket 775 stuff has been around for a long time, but I don't plan on upgrading my E8400 any time soon.

Clocked to 4.5GHz (563x8) 24/7... No game will max this processor for some time to come.

Obsolete?! Hell no!

563 FSB

daaaaaaaaaaammm

Triton.se · May 15, 2009, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a_ump

i wish they'd quit playing around and just release the E9000 @ 4ghz :P. yea i see this chip only benefitting those that are building new budget pc's as it'll hopefully lower current intel CPU prices some. And of course it should help those enthusiasts set new oc records

4GHz dual core would do nothing in GTA4...thats a reason ppl need quads..or not, that was a port...grrrrr

infrared · May 15, 2009, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phanbuey

563 FSB

daaaaaaaaaaammm

Got a bit more fsb headroom, 575 is the highest i've had it stable, but needs a lot more volts to the NB. I'm only at 1.4v vmch for this, linpack stable!

[I.R.A]_FBi · May 15, 2009, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snakeoil

beating a dead horse
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attach...1&d=1242408245

intel is beating a dead horse, core 2 is an old architecture that cannot be further improved
and is beginning to retire it.

Intel Core 2 Era Comes to the End: Intel Discontinues X48 Mainboard.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mainboa...Mainboard.html

It really says somethign when a dead horse whips the thorobreds

of other competitors

alexp999 · May 15, 2009, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infrared

Got a bit more fsb headroom, 575 is the highest i've had it stable, but needs a lot more volts to the NB. I'm only at 1.4v vmch for this, linpack stable!

Make it to 600 FSB and you'll have the same bandwidth as the i7's QPI!

a_ump · May 15, 2009, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexp999

Make it to 600 FSB and you'll have the same bandwidth as the i7's QPI!

really? lol how is that calculated?

alexp999 · May 15, 2009, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a_ump

really? lol how is that calculated?

400 FSB is about 12.8 GB/s, and the i7's do 19.2 GB/s, while the i7 extreme does 25.6 GB/s.

So to match the normal i7s you need 600 FSB!

And to match the extreme edition its 800 FSB!

infrared · May 15, 2009, 10:33 PM

Cool, that's some interesting info.

I wander if i can get to 600mhz fsb... Nooo, don't tempt me, I know where this leads!

dalekdukesboy · May 15, 2009, 10:33 PM

If i am a fanboi to any company its AMD and i am sitting here telling you that the intel chips perform better in just about every little thing you can think of.[/QUOTE]

Only one question...why buy amd then? Fanboism is worth the price of "worser" performance in "every little thing you can think of?" Not trying to be an ass, honestly just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me though I agree with all of what you say considering it's true in just about any test you compare the two at...

Quote:

Originally Posted by infrared

Cool, thanks for info! 600FSB OR BUST!! lol

Then I really don't need i7 then...been there done that, literally 12 fsb shy of it now with 24/7 stability with this mobo...However I'd love to trade in my e8600 for an E8700 and hit 600 at a higher multi

a_ump · May 15, 2009, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexp999

400 FSB is about 12.8 GB/s, and the i7's do 19.2 GB/s, while the i7 extreme does 25.6 GB/s.

So to match the normal i7s you need 600 FSB!

And to match the extreme edition its 800 FSB!

dam, that's interesting. PUSH FOR 600FSB!!!!!

sneekypeet · May 16, 2009, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infrared

Cool, that's some interesting info.

I wander if i can get to 600mhz fsb... Nooo, don't tempt me, I know where this leads!

I seem to remember a thread you started talking about the size of your minerals when it came to de-lidding your 8800. Did they shrivel since then?

J/K But Ill sell ya a foxconn if you blow it up trying

Wile E · May 16, 2009, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snakeoil

well if you understand the old architecture you are using you know the front side bus is a gigantic bottleneck thats why when you stress your sistem is not as responsive as an amd system with hypertransport, thats why core i7 copied hypertransport and calls it QPI
if the cpu cant communicate with the rest of the components of the system the system suffers and so does your overall experience.

FSB is not a bottleneck with a dual core on a desktop computer. It has more than enough bandwidth for 2 cores. It usually has enough bandwidth for 4 cores, so long as the bus is clocked high enough (around 400Mhz or so). It only becomes a bottleneck past that.

DOM · May 16, 2009, 01:51 PM

600fsb is no where close to i7 when you clock the mem on i7

this is my 625fsb on ddr2

infrared · May 17, 2009, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sneekypeet

I seem to remember a thread you started talking about the size of your minerals when it came to de-lidding your 8800. Did they shrivel since then?

J/K But Ill sell ya a foxconn if you blow it up trying

I did it!!! wooooooooo... didn't think this board could!

I'm hot on yer heels DOM!

SystemViper · May 17, 2009, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOM

600fsb is no where close to i7 when you clock the mem on i7

this is my 625fsb on ddr2

http://img.techpowerup.org/090426/cachemem.png

DOM, love your work, have been planning some real benching for this coming week and
have been reading up on [H] and the points system.
I have to say i saw your profile and it's TOP NOTCH.
you have dome some good stuff, i'm impressed

Duncan1 · May 18, 2009, 08:23 AM

Hmmmm....It seems that google just caught something....

Mussels · May 18, 2009, 09:00 AM

nice catch duncan.

hat · May 18, 2009, 09:15 AM

C'mon they're probably just rebranding old stock. I doubt there was any real innovation here.

Mussels · May 18, 2009, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hat

C'mon they're probably just rebranding old stock. I doubt there was any real innovation here.

higher multi.

Regular consumers dont OC, so its the fastest dual available to them, and it will make OCing easier. Odds are its a newer stepping as well.

hat · May 18, 2009, 09:19 AM

What's the higher multi got to do with anything? As I said it's probably just old stock they're using, programming it to run with a 10.5 multi instead of a 10.0 multi. And yes it is probably a newer stepping since they're using newer stock.

Mussels · May 18, 2009, 09:21 AM

my point is that while it may not be anything fancy or exciting, its a newer, higher clocked chip with better OC potential.

Over time we get better chips for the same price. its progress, not innovation.

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May 18, 2009, 08:23 AM	#45
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May 18, 2009, 09:15 AM	#47
hat Maximum Overclocker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 12,236 (5.16/day) Thanks: 2,054 Thanked 2,039 Times in 1,549 Posts System Specs	C'mon they're probably just rebranding old stock. I doubt there was any real innovation here. __________________ My Heatware “Inb4 smartphone LN2 overclocking.” -radrok

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May 18, 2009, 09:19 AM	#49
hat Maximum Overclocker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 12,236 (5.16/day) Thanks: 2,054 Thanked 2,039 Times in 1,549 Posts System Specs	What's the higher multi got to do with anything? As I said it's probably just old stock they're using, programming it to run with a 10.5 multi instead of a 10.0 multi. And yes it is probably a newer stepping since they're using newer stock. __________________ My Heatware “Inb4 smartphone LN2 overclocking.” -radrok

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