Super Pi 1m scores

[Alec§taar]

Originally Posted by Ketxxx

oh thats easy, Mushkin drop me a PM if you want some help picking some godlike RAM

Sure, whatever works!



* DO you need any information from me ahead of time, such as system hardware makeup etc. first?

(That is, if my signature & such does NOT cover it!)

Thanks!

APK

[Alec§taar]

Originally Posted by pt

hey alex, i just passed you (competition is a good thing)


is anyone going to do a score table?

I think giorgos.th is waiting for more results...

APK

P.S.=> Yes, you did... good job!

ME = 32.609

YOU = 32.094

DIFFERENCE = .515

Not by a HECK of a lot, but you did nevertheless, & I cannot argue w/ results... apk

[Alec§taar]

Per my subject line above, & more-or-less, PROOF that tighter memory "timing chains" yield BETTER results on this single-threaded test?

Here are some improved scores (@ lower CPU-mhz, no less):

CPU-z 1.36 CPU-mhz data:



CPU-z 1.36 RAM-mhz data:



IMPROVED SUPER-PI 1.5 mod RESULTS (via tighter memory timings & even with less CPU-mhz yield)





* Tighter memory timings (which I get using 11x multipliers, along w/ BETTER "Ram-mhz yield ROI" (for lack of a better expression) using 11x mult.'s, just gave me a .202 seconds improvemed score thusfar ("She'll go faster" - Howard Hughes from "The Aviator"))!

APK

P.S.=> Coming @ you pt... 1/2 way there now, & once I improve my FSB (past 254, up to 258 which is my limit no matter what multiplier I use)? We will see if I can 'catch or pass' you...

E.G./I.E.-> I was .515 away from you before on 12x mults, now only .3 or so away using 11x mults, & not anywhere NEAR where I can go using 11x mult on the FSB! apk

[Ketxxx]

Originally Posted by Alec§taar

Sure, whatever works!



* DO you need any information from me ahead of time, such as system hardware makeup etc. first?

(That is, if my signature & such does NOT cover it!)

Thanks!

APK

nah shouldnt do, unless you plan on moving over to AM2 or something

[Alec§taar]

Originally Posted by Ketxxx

nah shouldnt do, unless you plan on moving over to AM2 or something

Nope, I won't buy NEW (completely new rig) until 2009 or so... typically, like with cars? I buy PC's every 3-5 years...

APK

P.S.=> Rebooting now, going to catch (OR better yet, PASS) pt's score above...

Right now, based on 11x mult results & tighter memtimings shown above?

I ate away MORE than 1/2 of what I need to do that already (I was .515 seconds behind pt earlier on 12x mult usage, & now, only .3 away using 11x mult & tighter memtimings)...

The increased FSB I get on 11x mult. (up from 254 -> 258 or so) SHOULD do it... apk

[infrared]

Found my screenshot!!

[Alec§taar]

Originally Posted by infrared

Found my screenshot!!

He wants Super-Pi 1.5 mod results...



* STILL: Kick-A$$ result man... no questions asked!

APK

[Ketxxx]

lol, not knocking it, but it takes your Duo 2 4.88GHz to beat my Venice @ 2.65GHz, just by 4.9 seconds? I think that shows that the race between both amd and intel is quite a lot closer than people think.

[Alec§taar]

Per my subject line above, & more-or-less, PROOF that tighter memory "timing chains" yield BETTER results on this single-threaded test?

Here are some improved scores (@ lower CPU-mhz, no less):

CPU-z 1.36 CPU-mhz data:



CPU-z 1.36 RAM-mhz data:



IMPROVED SUPER-PI 1.5 mod RESULTS (via tighter memory timings & slightly MORE CPU-mhz yield via FSB increase to 256FSB)





* STILL MORE, via "tighter" memory timings & increased FSB to 256 (I can get to 258 & have before stable for this test)...

(We're going to try to pass you pt... "competition is GOOD")

YOU = 32.094

ME (currently) = 32.187

DIFFERENCE = 0.093!!!

APK

P.S.=> Coming @ you pt... only a MINOR amount away from your score now, & once I improve my FSB (past 255 now, up to 258)?

We will see if I can 'catch or pass' you...

E.G./I.E.-> I was .515 away from you before on 12x mults, now only .3 or so away using 11x mults x 255FSB, shooting for 256-258 ranges & seeing what happens on this test! apk

[giorgos th.]

Ketxxx its not a core duo.its a 640 P4.

[Ketxxx]

Originally Posted by Alec§taar

Nope, I won't buy NEW (completely new rig) until 2009 or so... typically, like with cars? I buy PC's every 3-5 years...

APK

P.S.=> Rebooting now, going to catch (OR better yet, PASS) pt's score above...

Right now, based on 11x mult results & tighter memtimings shown above?

I ate away MORE than 1/2 of what I need to do that already (I was .515 seconds behind pt earlier on 12x mult usage, & now, only .3 away using 11x mult & tighter memtimings)...

The increased FSB I get on 11x mult. (up from 254 -> 258 or so) SHOULD do it... apk

well drop me a pm with your budget and any rough idea of what you would like from the memory and i'll list some kits for ya

[infrared]

Yeah, how'd you think i got a duo?

I wish i had a core 2 duo @ 4.88ghz

[giorgos th.]

just a thought infrared...
we`ve got 0.5 secs difference and 1.8 ghz cpu clock also....hehehe..

[Alec§taar]

Per my subject line above, & more-or-less, PROOF that tighter memory "timing chains" yield BETTER results on this single-threaded test?

Here are some improved scores (@ lower CPU-mhz, no less, than what I had w/ 12x mult use):

CPU-z 1.36 CPU-mhz data:



CPU-z 1.36 RAM-mhz data:



IMPROVED SUPER-PI 1.5 mod RESULTS (via tighter memory timings & slightly MORE CPU-mhz yield via FSB increase to 257FSB)





* STILL MORE, via "tighter" memory timings & increased FSB to 257 (I can get to 258 & have before stable for this test & I'll "bring it on" if I need it again, vs. any scores you may do to pass mine currently here, pt)...

(We've passed you pt... "competition is GOOD")

APK

P.S.=> Got ya! apk

[Alec§taar]

Originally Posted by Ketxxx

well drop me a pm with your budget and any rough idea of what you would like from the memory and i'll list some kits for ya

Budget is not an issue (thank goodness - @ least, not for the cost of RAM that is, vidcards & CPU's are another animal completely costs-wise, lol)...

& as-per-usual?

Thanks for all of your help/instruction/assistance!



(As you can see, I have been "the good student", & am using your techniques "fluently" now & with ease... you're right - once you get a few things down about o/c'ing & get to really KNOW your machine? You can do some cool things with it... far superior "performance control")

APK

P.S.=> RAM, better RAM... that's what I need! apk

[giorgos th.]

put tras 6 and trc 7-10 and try again..

[Alec§taar]

Originally Posted by giorgos th.

put tras 6 and trc 7-10 and try again..

Think that'd help? It probably will, it is just that I have NEVER gone that "tight" on the TRAS setting, but will try it now (and same with the TRC setting).

APK

P.S.=> I'll give it a go, probably cannot hurt to try it... apk

[_33]

Originally Posted by Alec§taar

Per my subject line above, & more-or-less, PROOF that tighter memory "timing chains" yield BETTER results on this single-threaded test?

Here are some improved scores (@ lower CPU-mhz, no less, than what I had w/ 12x mult use):

CPU-z 1.36 CPU-mhz data:



CPU-z 1.36 RAM-mhz data:



IMPROVED SUPER-PI 1.5 mod RESULTS (via tighter memory timings & slightly MORE CPU-mhz yield via FSB increase to 257FSB)





* STILL MORE, via "tighter" memory timings & increased FSB to 257 (I can get to 258 & have before stable for this test & I'll "bring it on" if I need it again, vs. any scores you may do to pass mine currently here, pt)...

(We've passed you pt... "competition is GOOD")

APK

P.S.=> Got ya! apk

That ram should be cranked much more. If you could play with your ram multiplier and just leave it at first to 3-3-3-8, but with ram going at 240mhz, it would give you under 30 second score. And basically you should get close to 1500 score on Sciencemark 2.0 with your dual core. And if you crank it even more say 275mhz ram, you'll get around 28 seconds or less. BTW, I don't know about you but I have 2 GB of ram... It's not exactly SuperPI related, but I was wondering how you could work with a Windows XP system and 512MB ram? Maybe one day I'll get an Opty 165, but man 512MB ram that's kind of on the edge for windows XP! After booting up, I am left with 1650MB free, so with 512MB I'd have maybe 150MB free.... Just a tought.

[Alec§taar]

Double Post Sorry!

[Alec§taar]

See my subject-line/title above: Thanks giorgos.th, it was possible to do that TRAS =6 & TRC=10 (so far, can possibly go "tighter still" on this latter one).

CPU-z 1.36 CPU-mhz data (257FSB (can do 258 max here)):



CPU-z 1.36 RAM-mhz & timings data (using TRAS = 6 & TRC = 10):



Super-Pi 1.5 mod Score:





* I think that'll do for now...

APK

P.S.=> Got ya pt, even moreso now (w/ a bit of assist from the crew here in giorgos.th specifically)... & can possibly even get MORE, via going 258FSB here & even "tighter" TRC = 7-9 here... but, that'll do, for now! apk

[Ketxxx]

Originally Posted by infrared

Yeah, how'd you think i got a duo?

I wish i had a core 2 duo @ 4.88ghz

lol i just cuda swore i saw you touting some duo clocks a while ago

[Ketxxx]

Originally Posted by giorgos th.

put tras 6 and trc 7-10 and try again..

a tras setting of 6 will NOT provide optimum bandwidth. in most cases, its 7 or 8, usually 8.

[Alec§taar]

Originally Posted by Ketxxx

a tras setting of 6 will NOT provide optimum bandwidth. in most cases, its 7 or 8, usually 8.

It did help to get me a better score though, on this test @ least!

Going down from TRAS 7 -> TRAS 6

&

Going down from TRC 12 -> TRC 10



* I will probably end up going to TRAS 8 though, & probably a general FSB x mult. clock of 254FSB x 11mult. = 2796mhz or so...

(I tend to run BEST & MOST STABLE (for all things, & all tests) @ that rate & generally ONLY "play w/ it" when doing tests like these)!

APK

[giorgos th.]

no need to.are you sp stable at higher clock?

[Alec§taar]

Originally Posted by giorgos th.

no need to.are you sp stable at higher clock?

I am: Just about to post 258FSB score... give me a minute to do a post w/ updated screenshots etc. from Super-Pi 1.5 mod & CPU-z 1.36 memory & cpu screens data.

(I.E.-> I beat my last score yet again & used a TRAS = 6 & TRC = 9!)



* I wonder how far/how radical I can get in my RAM 'timing-chain' here, tightening it to its possible max?

APK