Thermaltake Element S Case

t_ski · Mar 27, 2009, 12:29 AM

To read this review go to: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/T...ake/Element_S/

MRCL · May 18, 2009, 09:46 AM

Hah, the Fail/yes pictures are awesome.
Man TT uses far too much plastic. Otherwise their cases wouldn't be so bad actually.

BumbleBee · May 18, 2009, 10:11 AM

thanks for the review but I disagree on your assessment of this case yes it has a lot of plastic but it isn't typical cheap shiny plastic. you list "Non-removable motherboard tray" and "No tool-less options for 5.25" drives or expansion cards" under cons when clearly they included a motherboard access hole and what case manufacturer makes a half decent tooless expansion slot? you should of listed plastic feet under cons, removable hard drive rack and dust filters under pros instead.

mav2000 · May 18, 2009, 10:27 AM

The interiors look nice and looks like it can fit a lot of hardware. But overall this just does not do it for me. The front kind of kills it altogether. Also I would imagine that if you wanted the front fans to be of any use, you would have to keep the front panel open.

BumbleBee · May 18, 2009, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav2000

The interiors look nice and looks like it can fit a lot of hardware. But overall this just does not do it for me. The front kind of kills it altogether. Also I would imagine that if you wanted the front fans to be of any use, you would have to keep the front panel open.

no the front door has spacing around the red trim to allow the front fans to intake kinda like the Antec Performance Series.

WarEagleAU · May 18, 2009, 12:58 PM

Very good review. I dont know reviewers for their cons, because it is they who are reviewing it on their opinions. I like the case, but I do agree they use more and more plastic. Id like to see an All Aluminum Black version of this

DrPepper · May 18, 2009, 03:43 PM

I personally think plastic isn't that bad. Anyway I was wanting to say nice review and that I like the look of that case.

aCid888* · May 18, 2009, 07:45 PM

Why anyone would buy this case for around $150 I have no idea. You could pick up this (see below) for the same price and other Lian Li's for far less.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811112198

Aside from the fact this case is too expensive, it doesn't look so hot either....and whats with the use of 60mm "Hairdryer" fans??

This entire case is a fail in all honesty.

Bjorn_Of_Iceland · May 19, 2009, 02:53 PM

No way to route cables at the back of the tray eh? Kinda nerfs that hole beside the PSU..

BumbleBee · May 19, 2009, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aCid888*

Why anyone would buy this case for around $150 I have no idea. You could pick up this (see below) for the same price and other Lian Li's for far less.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811112198

Aside from the fact this case is too expensive, it doesn't look so hot either....and whats with the use of 60mm "Hairdryer" fans??

This entire case is a fail in all honesty.

the Thermaltake Element S is only $119 and it was $89 AR last week. the Lian Li case isn't special at all. this case has more features, better cooling and cheaper price tag.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Of_Iceland

No way to route cables at the back of the tray eh? Kinda nerfs that hole beside the PSU..

look closer and I don't see many cable management issues...

t_ski · May 19, 2009, 05:19 PM

BumbleBee, Bjorn_Of_Iceland is pretty much correct: there can be very little amount of cables routed behind the tray with the side panel still being able to slide on. The picture you've shown was from the early stages of installation, and later (when the side panel was added) the issue came up. These two images show it better:

I currently have an i7 motherboard installed in the case and I am able to route the 8-pin mobo connector behind the tray. if one or two similar cables are utilized, they may go behind the tray, but the more you add the harder it gets to slide the panel back on.

However, as stated there is quite a bit of room behind the HDD cage, and there could be even more if the cage is rotated 90 degrees.

BumbleBee · May 19, 2009, 05:36 PM

you could still pull it off with a little better cable managing (roll cables and use cable ties) and a modular power supply. looks more like a Fail on your end not the case.

erocker · May 19, 2009, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BumbleBee

you could still pull it off with a little better cable managing (roll cables and use cable ties) and a modular power supply. looks more like a Fail on your end not the case.

Why should a reviewer bother with making a system look pretty with cable management? The purpose of a review is to give the reader an idea of what the case is and what it can and cannot do. Reviews take quite a bit of time the way it is, exhaustive and particular cable management eats up way too much time. It's up to the consumer/end-user to make their beloved system look pretty.

Good review t_ski!

BumbleBee · May 19, 2009, 05:49 PM

why because I expected more from a case reviewer? it's not to make it look pretty it's to show an example if he can't do it properly maybe he should take a picture of a ruler measuring the distance from the side panel to the motherboard tray like this

erocker · May 19, 2009, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BumbleBee

it's not to make it look pretty it's to show an example if he can't do it properly maybe he should take a picture of a ruler measuring the distance from the side panel to the motherboard tray like this

http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/2089/__14.jpg

Well, it's just your opinion about doing something "properly", but I do like the idea.

Bjorn_Of_Iceland · May 19, 2009, 07:47 PM

In anycase, it still is a good review and includes if the case is capable of cable tucking.. where as previous and other site's case review does not show this feature (hiding cables behind the tray) even if the case is capable of doing it..

Its about time that case reviews should be aware of this way of cable management.. where as ever since 2006, I was relying on the pictures and on pic scaling to see if wires were able to fit at the back..

tzitzibp · May 20, 2009, 10:50 AM

nice review... all features are presented, including CM possibilities...

btw, I believe cable management is based on two factors. 1) cable man features of the case and 2) users ability and imagination to properly use these features.
I could add a third factor, but that only applies to modders

Judas · May 21, 2009, 02:44 PM

Nice case,nice review. I have always like TT cases, but it's all down to personnel choice

A3DSAIL · Nov 15, 2009, 05:32 AM

I thought the Tt Element S review was excellent with great photos. Having just bought this model for a new build, I would like clarification on one point. You said that the HDD cage "...can also be installed facing the front of the case for those that may prefer it." I have removed it to do just that to improve airflow from the front fans, but I can't figure a way to reinstall it 90° from the stock orientation. Can anyone help me out?

t_ski · Nov 15, 2009, 04:28 PM

When you remove the cage, you should see this:

Remove the front panel, remove the fan mounts, then slide the cage in from the front. The side that was facing the left panel should now be facing the front.

A3DSAIL · Jan 3, 2010, 12:57 AM

t_ski, thanks for the clarification. I was able to reorient the HDD cage and the airflow is much better. See below.

I also removed the hard plastic feet and replaced them with some AcoustiFeet (self-adhesive soft silicone feet) which should help to decouple the case from its base, attenuating vibrations/noise.

soberspine · Apr 26, 2011, 03:38 PM

hi, I have few questions about this case if anyone can answer me.

1) how much is the distance between the side panel and mother board? the one BumbleBee talks about.

2) does the front door influence the air intake?

3) does the front door blocks the noise?

thanks and sorry for my bad english

Mar 27, 2009, 12:29 AM	#1
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May 18, 2009, 09:46 AM	#2
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May 18, 2009, 10:11 AM	#3
BumbleBee Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cybertron aka Canada Posts: 4,083 (2.65/day) Thanks: 827 Thanked 1,202 Times in 920 Posts System Specs	thanks for the review but I disagree on your assessment of this case yes it has a lot of plastic but it isn't typical cheap shiny plastic. you list "Non-removable motherboard tray" and "No tool-less options for 5.25" drives or expansion cards" under cons when clearly they included a motherboard access hole and what case manufacturer makes a half decent tooless expansion slot? you should of listed plastic feet under cons, removable hard drive rack and dust filters under pros instead.

May 18, 2009, 10:27 AM	#4
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May 18, 2009, 03:43 PM	#7
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May 19, 2009, 02:53 PM	#9
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May 19, 2009, 05:19 PM	#11
t_ski Staff Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Illinois, USA Posts: 8,849 (3.40/day) Thanks: 3,017 Thanked 3,315 Times in 2,531 Posts System Specs	BumbleBee, Bjorn_Of_Iceland is pretty much correct: there can be very little amount of cables routed behind the tray with the side panel still being able to slide on. The picture you've shown was from the early stages of installation, and later (when the side panel was added) the issue came up. These two images show it better: I currently have an i7 motherboard installed in the case and I am able to route the 8-pin mobo connector behind the tray. if one or two similar cables are utilized, they may go behind the tray, but the more you add the harder it gets to slide the panel back on. However, as stated there is quite a bit of room behind the HDD cage, and there could be even more if the cage is rotated 90 degrees. __________________ t_ski's stuff for sale ~ TPU Eyefinity Club ~ Heatware Silverstone TJ07 build ~ Mini ITX Home Server build Intel i7 3930K ~ Asus P9X79 Pro ~ 4 x 8GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 1866 C9 ~ Triple 7970's with EK FC-7970 CSQ ~ Triple Asus VW246H LCD's ~ 2 x 120 GB Corsair Force 3 (Raid 0) ~ 500GB WD ~ Lite-On BluRay ~ Nickel-plated Heatkiller 3.0 CU ~ D5 with EK X-top ~ BIX Quad Rad ~ Corsair AX1200 ~ Silverstone TJ07

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BumbleBee Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cybertron aka Canada Posts: 4,083 (2.65/day) Thanks: 827 Thanked 1,202 Times in 920 Posts System Specs	you could still pull it off with a little better cable managing (roll cables and use cable ties) and a modular power supply. looks more like a Fail on your end not the case.

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May 19, 2009, 05:49 PM	#14
BumbleBee Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cybertron aka Canada Posts: 4,083 (2.65/day) Thanks: 827 Thanked 1,202 Times in 920 Posts System Specs	why because I expected more from a case reviewer? it's not to make it look pretty it's to show an example if he can't do it properly maybe he should take a picture of a ruler measuring the distance from the side panel to the motherboard tray like this

May 19, 2009, 07:47 PM	#16
Bjorn_Of_Iceland Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Húsið mitt Posts: 2,608 (1.32/day) Thanks: 480 Thanked 358 Times in 266 Posts System Specs	In anycase, it still is a good review and includes if the case is capable of cable tucking.. where as previous and other site's case review does not show this feature (hiding cables behind the tray) even if the case is capable of doing it.. Its about time that case reviews should be aware of this way of cable management.. where as ever since 2006, I was relying on the pictures and on pic scaling to see if wires were able to fit at the back.. __________________ SIEG HEIL!! Last edited by Bjorn_Of_Iceland; May 19, 2009 at 07:59 PM.

May 20, 2009, 10:50 AM	#17
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May 21, 2009, 02:44 PM	#18
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Nov 15, 2009, 05:32 AM	#19
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Nov 15, 2009, 04:28 PM	#20
t_ski Staff Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Illinois, USA Posts: 8,849 (3.40/day) Thanks: 3,017 Thanked 3,315 Times in 2,531 Posts System Specs	When you remove the cage, you should see this: Remove the front panel, remove the fan mounts, then slide the cage in from the front. The side that was facing the left panel should now be facing the front. __________________ t_ski's stuff for sale ~ TPU Eyefinity Club ~ Heatware Silverstone TJ07 build ~ Mini ITX Home Server build Intel i7 3930K ~ Asus P9X79 Pro ~ 4 x 8GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 1866 C9 ~ Triple 7970's with EK FC-7970 CSQ ~ Triple Asus VW246H LCD's ~ 2 x 120 GB Corsair Force 3 (Raid 0) ~ 500GB WD ~ Lite-On BluRay ~ Nickel-plated Heatkiller 3.0 CU ~ D5 with EK X-top ~ BIX Quad Rad ~ Corsair AX1200 ~ Silverstone TJ07

Jan 3, 2010, 12:57 AM	#21
A3DSAIL Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 10 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post System Specs	t_ski, thanks for the clarification. I was able to reorient the HDD cage and the airflow is much better. See below. I also removed the hard plastic feet and replaced them with some AcoustiFeet (self-adhesive soft silicone feet) which should help to decouple the case from its base, attenuating vibrations/noise. __________________ \| XP Pro SP-2 32-bit \| eVGA 680i A1 (P30) \| E6600 2.4 w/AC Freezer 7 Pro \| eVGA 8800 gts 640mb \| Dominator TWIN2x2048-6400C4D 4GB \| Sunbeam Reobus Extreme Fan Control \| Hitachi 7K160 80gb \| SpinPoint T HD501LJ 500gb \| Lite-On LH20A1H \| Samsung 206BWB LCD (Digital) \| PC P&C Silencer 750 Quad \| Gigabyte 3D Aurora 570 - black \| Sharkoon Silent Eagle 2000 LED 120mm \| Saitek Eclipse keyboard \| Logitech G5 mouse \| Klipsch ProMedia Ultra 2.1 speakers \| Last edited by A3DSAIL; Jan 3, 2010 at 01:06 AM. Reason: add URL

Apr 26, 2011, 03:38 PM	#22
soberspine Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	hi, I have few questions about this case if anyone can answer me. 1) how much is the distance between the side panel and mother board? the one BumbleBee talks about. 2) does the front door influence the air intake? 3) does the front door blocks the noise? thanks and sorry for my bad english

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