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Old May 23, 2009, 06:44 AM   #1
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AMD Plans Massive 45 nm Transition, New CPUs Announced

Industry observer DigiTimes, citing anonymous sources, today reported that AMD is planning to move production of its desktop processors to 45 nm node process by the third quarter of this year.
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AMD plans to move production of its desktop CPUs to its 45nm node process in the third quarter, helping to reduce costs, according to sources at motherboard makers.
Currently, only AMD's quad-core Phenom II X4 800 and 900 series (Deneb) and triple-core Phenom II X3 700 series (Heka) CPUs are manufactured under a 45nm process. The company plans to move its dual-core Phenom II X2 500 series (Callisto) and Athlon II X2 200 series to 45nm in June, and quad-core Athlon II X4 600 series and triple-core Athlon II X3 400 series (Rana) in September, the sources noted.
The chipmaker also plans to launch several CPUs during the period between the end of the second quarter and the third quarter. The dual-core Phenom II X2 550 and 545 will launch at the end of the second quarter, and the quad-core Phenom II X4 945 (95W) and 8xx (95W), triple-core Phenom II X3 7xx (95W), quad-core Athlon II X4 630 and 620, triple-core Athlon II X3 435 and 425, and dual-core Athlon II X2 250, 245 and 240 will launch in the third.
AMD also plans to launch 10 low-power consumption CPUs including the Phenom II X4 905e, Phenom II X3 705e and Athlon II X4 605e.
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All good news here, will be keeping the eye open for maybe a HTPC proc.
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*sigh* I am never going to have an AMD CPU, am I?
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Ten years of Intel loyality begin to shiver.
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Ten years of Intel loyality begin to shiver.
Are you talking about me? That's almost creepy. I bought my first Intel PIII ten years ago. But the problem is that it's not beginning to shiver. I really wish AMD would finally come up with something worthwhile.
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Are you talking about me? That's almost creepy. I bought my first Intel PIII ten years ago. But the problem is that it's not beginning to shiver. I really wish AMD would finally come up with something worthwhile.
How is the Phenom II 900 series not enough for ya? It's not like you're running a Q9000 series or i7.
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How is the Phenom II 900 series not enough for ya? It's not like you're running a Q9000 series or i7.
It's enough compared to what I currently have. But, obviously, if I were going to upgrade, I'd go i7. Which means AMD is still dead to me.
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Are you talking about me? That's almost creepy. I bought my first Intel PIII ten years ago. But the problem is that it's not beginning to shiver. I really wish AMD would finally come up with something worthwhile.
Lol no about me I had one AMD cpu in my eleven years of pc-life, and that was a short period of time. Otherwise Intel all teh way.

My next big CPU upgrade will definately be AMD.
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weer if you dont have nothing smart do say then dont post!!!

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weer if you dont have nothing smart do say then dont post!!! ignorant fanboy
Welcome to the forums PlanetCyborg. Name calling and flaming here are not tolerated unless its meant as a joke. Anyway weer didn't say anything "ignorant" just his opinion.
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Don't hate the fanboy, hate the product
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Yet some people don't realise that Phenom has caught up to the Core 2 arcitecture. Yes, i7 is ahead, but not nearly enough to justify the price. When I bought my Sempron single core, I had enough money to buy a damned E8400 + slammin' mobo, but I went the (very) cheap way and got a chip that pleases me just fine. Hell, sometimes when me and my Uncle are playing BF2 I get in first, and he's got 2 raptors in raid 0 and a 6000+.

I think that even this sempron, once overclocked to 3GHz (which it does with ease) is enough for any single application. Dual cores come in handy when you have virus scans, pr0n downloads, music playing and a hardcore game going all at once. Any dual core cpu is enough for the average gamin' man. Quad comes in handy when you've got a shitstorm of activity going on all at once, such as video encoding and games at the same time.
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I'm looking real hard at the Phenom II 810 to replace my Athlon X2.

Saddly, I have to kind of agree with Weer though, AMD's products are still lagging behind. They have caught up to the older, lower end Core 2, but not the high end. The Q6600 released in Jan2007 is still outperforming their top offering today, they still have a lot of ground to make up.

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Yet some people don't realise that Phenom has caught up to the Core 2 arcitecture. Yes, i7 is ahead, but not nearly enough to justify the price. When I bought my Sempron single core, I had enough money to buy a damned E8400 + slammin' mobo, but I went the (very) cheap way and got a chip that pleases me just fine. Hell, sometimes when me and my Uncle are playing BF2 I get in first, and he's got 2 raptors in raid 0 and a 6000+.

I think that even this sempron, once overclocked to 3GHz (which it does with ease) is enough for any single application. Dual cores come in handy when you have virus scans, pr0n downloads, music playing and a hardcore game going all at once. Any dual core cpu is enough for the average gamin' man. Quad comes in handy when you've got a shitstorm of activity going on all at once, such as video encoding and games at the same time.
A single core processor is not enough for todays modern games. Saddly, even dual-cores are being bogged down. The days of a highly clocked dual-core being better than a lower clocked quad are coming to an end. With the increased amounts of physic game developers are cramming into games, and increased realizm, dual-core processor are starting to show they can't keep up.
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Hardware is so wierd... The PSUs are getting more and more wattage... But the CPUs and GPUs are finding new manufacturing technology for there cpus to use less power.. I would be looking to find more effiency in Psus if I was them..
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Hardware is so wierd... The PSUs are getting more and more wattage... But the CPUs and GPUs are finding new manufacturing technology for there cpus to use less power.. I would be looking to find more effiency in Psus if I was them..
The new manufacturing technology on the CPUs don't make them use less power, it allows increased performance at the same power envolope.
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Hardware is so wierd... The PSUs are getting more and more wattage... But the CPUs and GPUs are finding new manufacturing technology for there cpus to use less power.. I would be looking to find more effiency in Psus if I was them..
no crap, i don't understand why they keep making larger and larger PSU's....i mean the average system power consumption hasn't really increased at all, even on the enthusiast end where u could xfire the X1950XTX. I suppose the idea of 3-way SLI and up to 4x xfire could call for an increase, especially if you were 4x xfiring HD 4890's.

Now about all the CPU's, i'm assuming AMD is simply going to stop the retailing of current athlon x2's, cause this is a huge line up they have coming here, and i dont know how all of those CPU's would fit in the market without AMD competing with itself, hence i would think they're going to end their current athlong x2 retailing.
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The Q6600 released in Jan2007 is still outperforming their top offering today, they still have a lot of ground to make up.
I would like to see a Q6600 beat a Phenom 955


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A single core processor is not enough for todays modern games. Saddly, even dual-cores are being bogged down. The days of a highly clocked dual-core being better than a lower clocked quad are coming to an end. With the increased amounts of physic game developers are cramming into games, and increased realizm, dual-core processor are starting to show they can't keep up.
I would have to start to agree on that, Quad cores seem to be doing very well at gaming these days, even against a high end dual core, but a yr ago i would of said otherwise, and a yr b4 that i would of said ya dreaming lol.
Honestly it depends on the game, and how many threads it runs, still most games are single threaded hence why i can just still get away with my single core, but i wouldn't go any less then what i run Dual cores do the job well enough, and of course if you got the cash a quad core is good for anything and what the future brings. My next rig will be Quad, just when is the question.
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I would like to see a Q6600 beat a Phenom 955
Shit the q6600 can't beat the 940, no need to go for 955. The Phenom II 940/55 are meant to compete with q9550/9650 if i'm not mistaken. the 920 is more of the q6600 competition. the intel chip still holds up very very well but it is slightly inferior. But i mean come on, what game today utilizes even the q6600 at 3ghz+ let alone 3.6ghz. Still a solid chip, i personally find if your just a gamer anything over an AMD PII x3 is unnecessary.
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Im looking forward to this. I'm really looking forward to a upgrade soon maybe late fall.
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Not getting the fray this time

I just want to point out that the info. about the Phenom II X3 7xx is wrong. These two chips are already 95W Thermal Power, so why would there be a move to where it already is. When this massive release starts, either the PII X3 7xx will be reduced to say....65W (or something) or will not be apart of this release. I hope someone can clear this up. Typo or speculation?

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