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Old Aug 22, 2006, 03:41 PM   #1001
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Aha, I knew guys were doing that: Networking w/ people they knew from other forums w/ FAST rigs to take this test of ours... good!
I did'nt even know he was a member here till tonight, we are both members @ i4memory.com who "compete" on a friendly basis........sometimes
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competition is nice..when it`s fair.
so,we must exclude conroes out of the test...hehehe...
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Cheers for the help earlier alec, doing what u suggested i've trimmed down my running processes to 23 for normal use, keeping full functionality, it had a huge impact on commitment charge too.
Its unfortunate i have to have the printer attached as it needs 2 services to run on the network, i never use it, only the gf for her course work. Its one of those huge multifunction devices, so its not like i can hide out of the way and get it out when she needs it.

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Old Aug 22, 2006, 03:55 PM   #1004
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Hay i was wondering alec, could you maybe edit a post on the first page to link to the posts where you give the advice etc, to maybe save peeps from having to wade through our ever increasing amounts of posts, god it took me ages to find where i last posted hahaha, just a thought
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I did'nt even know he was a member here till tonight, we are both members @ i4memory.com who "compete" on a friendly basis........sometimes
Ah, I see... cool!

(I too, have my "nemesis" here in Tigger69 mainly, lol... quite the battle thru this thread in fact with he & I switching places every other week in placements!)

Bring your friends. The "more-the-merrier" I say...



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Hay i was wondering alec, could you maybe edit a post on the first page to link to the posts where you give the advice etc, to maybe save peeps from having to wade through our ever increasing amounts of posts, god it took me ages to find where i last posted hahaha, just a thought
Done earlier today in fact ("Great Minds Think Alike" lol!)

(It is @ the bottom of the scorechart (on first page of this thread now, per Urlyin's suggestion, in summary & later, points to EXAMPLE that ace80 & I are working on currently/now/work-in-process))...

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Cheers for the help earlier alec, doing what u suggested i've trimmed down my running processes to 23 for normal use, keeping full functionality, it had a huge impact on commitment charge too.
Its unfortunate i have to have the printer attached as it needs 2 services to run on the network, i never use it, only the gf for her course work. Its one of those huge multifunction devices, so its not like i can hide out of the way and get it out when she needs it.

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Ok, excellent... good deal! Yes, commit charge is how much RAM is currently "committed" with data, & has its cells charged (that is how I understand it, & counts for VM on pagefile.sys too (all RAM to these OS is VM (virtual memory)).

You use less? That also decreases, along w/ other I-O performed as well, which in turn allows processes & services you DO use, more CPU time.

MOST COMMON-SENSE THING IN THE WORLD imo @ least!



Working on it now, give me time to post DONE here -> (DONE)

USING TASKMGR.EXE right-click on process popup menu, STOP these:

TPUCapture.exe
sdhelp.exe
avgemc.exe
MsMPEng.exe
swdoctor.exe
avgcc.exe
ATITool.exe (sorry W1zz!)
uGuru_Event_Receiver.exe
RegMech.exe (I do a BETTER regcleaner, guaranteed, than this one, ask Solaris17)
MSASCui.exe
uGuru.exe
spoolsvc.exe (for printing/faxing, you can stall it using services.msc temporarily & restart later if needed)

(Some of those, you MAY need, but that is up to you (as I am NOT 100% sure what some of those are (custom services for apps YOU use, which you know better than I do on that note, they ARE your apps, not mine, on YOUR system))).

* There is your FINAL stage & starting point now that you have already cut back on services used via services.msc earlier...

REMEMBER:

When testing OR gaming?

YOU CAN EVEN STOP YOUR EXPLORER.EXE GUI DESKTOP SHELL TOO (massive I/O & cpu time stealer, constantly paging is why (noteable via pagefaults column in taskmgr.exe IF you make it visible for the PROCESSES TAB)).

You can restart it via taskmgr.exe File menu, RUN submenu, when done testing (along w/ other apps etc et al)

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P.S.=> Good luck! Even though you are NEAR your highscore & are having trouble passing it?

This should help IMMENSELY for increasing your score on ScienceMark 2.0 & other benchmarks tests!

(If not permanently once you figure out what you need to be running in the background in the way of services &/or apps... simply by "not running around waving your arms around all day" & instead using that energy for tasks you ACTUALLY DO! Like games!)... apk

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Ah cool, hehehe, well if i was quicker off the mark id had made a good suggestion thnx for fixin me score btw.

Id like to see my score with just 5 processes running, think the max i got usin msconfig was 10, so i smell a few points extra there, Id "love" to break the 1600 point mark..

Just thinkin the first time i ran sciencemark2 i got 1200 points, just goes to show how much fiddling with ram timings and taskmanager helps, a whole 377ish points increase
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summary & later, points to EXAMPLE that ace80 & I are working on currently/now/work-in-process))
cool, ill check it out when I get the time to cook my ram some more, think Ill try the griddle this time...
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Ok, i've just done a run on a diagnostic startup via msconfig with about 10 processes running, i then went back into msconfig and choose normal startup, when it rebooted its now asking me to activate windows because of hardware changes.
I've used msconfig in the past to problem solve startup programs but this has never happened.
Correct me if i'm wrong but does it have anything to do with the BOOT.INI file, as now the modified boot.ini file is greyed out in msconfig and i think this is what i was using before.

I should be ok to just re-activate shouldn't i ?
Any help much appreciated.
Advise me to start a new thread if necessary.
im going to beat you ive pased the 1,100 mark rockout:
well i got this for now
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It doesn't sound like it is for overclockers, or @ least not heavy o/c'ers... still, your score increase (again) is pretty impressive.

I know I'll need better RAM to beat what I got for instance, because my mobo can do the job, but my RAM can't (& I had some of the "best" here try to get me past my o/c & they almost always universally say "get better RAM" etc.)...

This is why I asked the question I did above about your Patriot RAM, because everyone that uses that stuff seems to do well on overclocks, regardless of their mobo (even restricted like you are by yours, you did very well imo @ least)!

Then - I have to "grill" Ketxxx some now as well because he knows Mushkin stuff very well also.



Man, you know what? I hear/feel you, completely, in regards to yesterday... was NOT a "good day" for me either bro', it got me really DOWN!



* BUT, today is a new day, & I am 'kicking it off right', right now, w/ a NICE cup of hot coffee & some posting here!

(Thanks for info. man!)

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As for the memory, when I first got it, I had two different PCB's, one looked like it had transistors on the top edge and was an all black pcb, then the other was all green with no transistors/resistors whatever they are on the top edge. The bad module was of the black PCB, I requested 2 green modules, and these things (if i can get my pc to boot) will go easily to 800mhz. I'm going to buy a new board (actually an nForce550) from abit (love their boards) and i'll be returning this one, nice part is i'll get 40 or so dollars back. I figure even though this is a DECENT board and has crossfire and dual lan... I dont need that, nor do I need SLI, I always buy a single card so it doesnt matter. I just need to deposit some money in my bank... and actually I could probably order it tonight sometime if I were to go right now
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i.ve had my patriot to 1000mhz.and it is running at 2.3v all the time.i'm running it at their specified settings at the mo'.

450/900mhz@2.3v@5.5.5.15
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i did it !!!

yes i beat ace80 score. well i think i can do better but i'll have to try later, ace80 you think you can beat me
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ok thats it 2.5ghz or bust i have a fan blowin on the computer and i will NOT be beat by some damn p4s @3.6ghz just cause they got ddr2 im gunna toast them w/ddr266 haha
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ok thats it 2.5ghz or bust i have a fan blowin on the computer and i will NOT be beat by some damn p4s @3.6ghz just cause they got ddr2 im gunna toast them w/ddr266 haha
whats your score ? i couldnt find it ?
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dammit dammit dammit stupid hot weather friken stupid houston oh i culdnt get boot up @2.5ghz 2.48ghz etc running stock 200mhz x10 'til weather cools down grrr. 105F today even w/ a fan and a case temp of 26C!!! my cpu only hit 40C and it stills not loading windows
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Latest results:

************************************************** ****
SCIENCEMARK 2.0 RESULTS 08/16/2006 "TOP 10 L33T" CLUB:
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* Devious = 2181.97 (Intel Core2Duo E6600@3942mhz)

* g R 3 i F^^ = 1825.29 (Intel Core2Duo E6600@ stock 305FSBx9mult)

* MikeLopez = 1700.24 (via 7x mult. X 428mhz FSB - Intel Core2Duo E6300@2996mhz)

* mandelore = 1554.41 (Athlon64 4000+ @ 3153mhz)

* Urlyin = 1537.93 (175 Dual Core Opteron @2800mhz)

* g R 3 i F^^ = 1487.73 (Intel Core2Duo E6600@ stock 305FSBx9mult)

* Dj Dn = 1461.97 (Opteron 165 2700mhz)

* Tigger69 = 1448.89 (Pentium D930@4416.8mhz)

* Alec§taar = 1440.60 (AMD Athlon 64x2 4800+@ 11x X 257 = 2827.2mhz)

* g12rxz = 1437.66 (AMD Athlon 64x2 n4200+ @ 2.6ghz o/c)

================================================== ===
TOP 10 AVERAGE RESULT = 1564.13 (former) -> 1574.62 (current)
================================================== ===

************************************************** ****
SCIENCEMARK 2.0 RESULTS 08/16/2006 BY SCORE ONLY:
************************************************** ****

* Devious = 2181.97 (Intel Core2Duo E6600@3942mhz)

* g R 3 i F^^ = 1825.29 (Intel Core2Duo E6600@ stock 305FSBx9mult)

* MikeLopez = 1700.24 (via 7x mult. X 428mhz FSB - Intel Core2Duo E6300@2996mhz)

* giorgos.th = 1541.53 (A64 3700+ SD @ 3047.02mhz (275.49*11))

* Urlyin = 1537.93 (175 Dual Core Opteron @2800mhz)

* mandelore = 1525.71 (Athlon64 4000+ @ 3105mhz (270x11.5))

* Dj Dn = 1461.97 (Opteron 165 2700mhz)

* Tigger69 = 1448.89 (Pentium D930@4416.8mhz)

* Alec§taar = 1440.60 (AMD Athlon 64x2 4800+@ 11x X 257 = 2827.2mhz)

* g12rxz = 1437.66 (AMD Athlon64x2 n4200+ @ 2.6ghz o/c)

* lapenski^^ = 1426.95 (AMD Opteron 148 @2860.4mhz)

* JNT Raptor = 1422.72 (AMD ATHLONx2 3800+@2712.1mhz)

* 33 = 1395.99 (AMD ATHLON64 3000+@2856MHZ)

* KetxxxOC = 1374.96 (A64 3200+ @ 2.65GHz - VENICE)

* Lekamies = 1371.23 (AMD ATLHON64 3000+@2700mhz)

* Steevo = 1360 (AMD 4000+ San Diego @ 3.0 1.65vcore)

* pt = 1325.84 (AMD ATLHON64 3000+@2650mhz)

* X800 = 1235.77 (AMD ATHLON64 3200+@2511mhz)

* randomperson = 1208.27 (AMD ATHLONx2 3800+@2400mhz)

* Canuto = 1190.71 (Pentium D 930 @ 3720mhz)

* Ketxxx = 1140.97 (A64 3200+ @ 2GHz - Winchester)

* newmodder = 1119.29 (AMD Athlon64 3500+ 205fsb x 11 mult)

* ace80 = 1087.55 (P4 550@3.4GHz)

* cdawall = 1048.17 (AMD ATHLON64 3000+@2.46ghz)

* Polaris573 = 1040.76 (P4 Northwood@3261mhz)

* W2hCYK = 1011.54 (P4 Prescott@3400mhz)

* MikeLopez = 1000.03 (AMD 3400 (S754))

* Casheti = 926.55 (Pentium D 920@3003.70mhz)

* Solaris17 = 886.72 (AMD ATHLONXP@2340MHZ)

================================================== ===
ALL 26 testers results avg. score = 1376.79
================================================== ===



************************************************** ****
SCIENCEMARK 2.0 RESULTS 08/16/2006 BY CPU TYPE USED:
************************************************** ****

--------------------------------------------------------------------
INTEL CONROE CLUB:
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* Devious = 2181.97 (Intel Core2Duo E6600@3942mhz)

* g R 3 i F^^ = 1825.29 (Intel Core2Duo E6600@ stock 305FSBx9mult)

* MikeLopez = 1700.24 (via 7x mult. X 428mhz FSB - Intel Core2Duo E6300@2996mhz)


================================================== ===
GROUPING Average Score = 1789.98
================================================== ===

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AMD OPTERON CLUB:
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* Urlyin = 1537.93 (175 Dual Core Opteron @2800mhz)

* Dj Dn = 1461.97 (Opteron 165 2700mhz)

* lapenski^^ = 1426.95 (AMD Opteron 148 @2860.4mhz)

================================================== ===
GROUPING Average Score = 1475.62
================================================== ===

--------------------------------------------------------------------
"CLUB AMD X2" (dualcore CPU's only):
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* Alec§taar = 1440.60 (AMD Athlon 64x2 4800+@ 11x X 257 = 2827.2mhz)

* g12rxz = 1437.66 (AMD Athlon 64x2 n4200+ @ 2.6ghz o/c)

* JNT Raptor = 1422.72 (AMD ATHLON x2 3800+@2712.1mhz)

* randomperson = 1208.27 (AMD ATHLON x2 3800+@2400mhz)

================================================== ===
GROUPING Average Score = 1377.31
================================================== ===

--------------------------------------------------------------------
"CLUB AMD" (non-dualcore CPU's only)
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* mandelore = 1554.41 (Athlon64 4000+ @ 3153mhz)

* giorgos.th = 1541.53 (A64 3700+ SD @ 3047.02mhz (275.49*11))

* 33 = 1395.99 (AMD ATHLON 64 3000+@2856MHZ)

* KetxxxOC = 1374.96 (A64 3200+ @ 2.65GHz - VENICE)

* Lekamies = 1371.23 (AMD ATLHON 64 3000+@2700mhz)

* Steevo = 1360 (AMD 4000+ San Diego @ 3.0 1.65vcore)

* pt = 1325.84 (AMD ATLHON 64 3000+@2650mhz)

* X800 = 1235.77 (AMD ATHLON 64 3200+@2511mhz)

* Ketxxx = 1140.97 (A64 3200+ @ 2GHz - Winchester)

* newmodder = 1119.29 (amd athlon 64 3500+ 205fsb x 11 mult)

* cdawall = 1048.17 (AMD ATHLON 64 3000+@2.46ghz)

* MikeLopez = 1000.03 (AMD 3400 (S754))

* Solaris17 = 886.72 (AMD ATHLON XP@2340MHZ)

================================================== ===
GROUPING Average Score = 1255.05
================================================== ===

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INTEL PENTIUM D9x0 CLUB:
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* Tigger69 = 1448.89 (Pentium D930@4416.8mhz)

* Canuto = 1190.71 (Pentium D 930 @ 3720mhz)

* Casheti = 926.55 (Pentium D 920@3003.70mhz)

================================================== ===
GROUPING Average Score = 1179.43
================================================== ===

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INTEL PENTIUM 4 (Northwood & Prescott) CLUB:
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* ace80 = 1087.55 (P4 550@3.4GHz)

* Polaris573 = 1040.76 (P4 Northwood@3261mHz)

* W2hCYK = 1011.54 (P4 Prescott@3400mhz)


================================================== ===
GROUPING Average Score = 1006.57
================================================== ===

I think it's everything in here, if i put some score wrong tell me
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1048.17 dom ati .... whatever
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I put the updates on the first page now... seemed like a good idea, Urlyin suggested it.

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yeah i seed it i just got tired of looking so posted myself
btw im gunnna try 2.46ghz but w/ all the windows crap turned off
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Yes, good idea: GO FOR IT!



* It ought to help - lots of "competitive enthusiasm" between yourself, ace80, & DOM... lol, it's entertaining!

(Wait it out until evening/night, or early a.m. & get the bennies of the lower ambient temps, read your post above, & I KNOW THAT FEELING! Heat... it's beat!)

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* It ought to help - lots of "competitive enthusiasm" between yourself, ace80, & others... lol, it's entertaining!

(Wait it out until evening/night, or early a.m. & get the bennies of the lower ambient temps, read your post above, & I KNOW THAT FEELING! Heat... it's beat!)

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P.S.=> Good luck, & boost that score by all means (the software/OS tuning stuff SHOULD help) & the ends? Justify the means! apk
thanks buddy got school stuff so now is unluckily the only computer time i get we will see what i get w/ an extra 100mb of ram and no dumb windows shit
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Old Aug 22, 2006, 11:19 PM   #1022
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wtf my score droppped to 982 thats gay must have somethig to do w/ the ram speed drop
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wtf my score droppped to 982 thats gay must have somethig to do w/ the ram speed drop
Maybe... it could be the heat though. I saw you tell/yell about that earlier, & I KNOW what THAT is like - sux!



* I'd just be patient about running it, foregoing it until you get that colder weather (Houston gets "cold"?)

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Old Aug 22, 2006, 11:23 PM   #1024
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allright posted new pics w/ speeds ^^^^^^
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Old Aug 22, 2006, 11:27 PM   #1025
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