Albatron HD 4830 Green

W1zzard · May 19, 2009, 02:44 PM

To read this review go to: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...HD_4830_Green/

mtosev · May 27, 2009, 03:02 PM

Violates PCI-Express slot power limits

can some one explane?

W1zzard · May 27, 2009, 03:11 PM

did you read the review? power consumption section. if you did i'll explain any additional questions you may have

mlee49 · May 27, 2009, 03:11 PM

Very thorough review guys. I'm really surprised to see this card havin a dual slot cooler design. The card shrunk in length but needs to be a single slot design to apply it better.

Scrizz · May 27, 2009, 03:27 PM

very nice
800sp instead of 640

Gam'ster · May 27, 2009, 03:35 PM

Nice review, Are albatron a US only company ? I cant recall seeing any for sale in the UK.

mtosev · May 27, 2009, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

did you read the review? power consumption section. if you did i'll explain any additional questions you may have

i read it now. i normaly only read the conclusion, the benchmarks, whats included in the bundle.

does this mean that if the card would exceded the specifications by 20% or more the PCI-E slot on the mobo could get damaged?

W1zzard · May 27, 2009, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtosev

does this mean that the card would exceded the spec by 20% or more the PCI-E slot on the mobo could get damaged?

in theory, anything that exeeds the specification can damage something. but i doubt something like this will happen in practice

3870x2 · May 27, 2009, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

in theory, anything that exeeds the specification can damage something. but i doubt something like this will happen in practice

Very true. These are strong "recommendations" and nothing more. I like to see limits like these pushed, and I also like the idea of this particular card.

crtecha · May 27, 2009, 04:20 PM

wow now thats a awesome htpc gfx card right there. I really like the onboard hdmi.

entropy13 · May 27, 2009, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gam'ster

Nice review, Are albatron a US only company ? I cant recall seeing any for sale in the UK.

Albatron is a Taiwanese company.

W1zzard · May 27, 2009, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crtecha

wow now thats a awesome htpc gfx card right there. I really like the onboard hdmi.

the card is too noisy for an htpc imo. passive ftw. and no, it will overheat with the fan disconnected (i tried)

crtecha · May 27, 2009, 05:25 PM

That fan does indeed look like it would be loud

Thats disappointing I wonder why they dont just spend a little more time on the designing the cooling features of the card. I would gladly pay a little more for a card that will not overheat due to poorly designed cooling solutions and listen to that awful noise just trying to keep the thing cool.

W1zzard · May 27, 2009, 06:18 PM

its my impression that chinese people (no offense) dont care about fan noise at all

crtecha · May 27, 2009, 06:23 PM

maybe I know that I personally care more about my temps then the noise but it would be wonderful to live in both worlds. On air that is.

newtekie1 · May 27, 2009, 06:43 PM

Just out of curiosity, how are you measuring the cards power consumption alone?

r9 · May 27, 2009, 09:26 PM

Great all the strain of VGA power draw transferred to the mobo. I can see some failed mainboards for no apparent reason.

WarEagleAU · May 28, 2009, 12:24 AM

Fan noise seems a bit loud or is it me?

entropy13 · May 28, 2009, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarEagleAU

Fan noise seems a bit loud or is it me?

There is no temperature based fan speed control, i.e. it is constant.

Kantastic · May 28, 2009, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

its my impression that chinese people (no offense) dont care about fan noise at all

^_^ I honestly can't care less if my computer sounds like a jet engine. (Yeah I'm Chinese.)

Zubasa · May 28, 2009, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrizz

very nice
800sp instead of 640

Basically this is a cheap down-clocked 4850 without the 6-pin pci-e connector

ShogoXT · May 28, 2009, 06:22 PM

I guess every little bit helps, though im unsure if it deserves a green name.

Imsochobo · May 28, 2009, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

in theory, anything that exeeds the specification can damage something. but i doubt something like this will happen in practice

Nope, PCI-E 2.0 can give more!.

but for now, they HAVE to comply with 1.1 specs which is limited to 75, i dont remember the 2.0.

My DFI LP UT 790FX-M2R can give roughly 200 W if power connectors to motherboard is conencted(3 floppy connectors of ALL things)

But i dont know if THAT is healthy

Bull Dog · May 29, 2009, 08:00 PM

Correct me if I am wrong but from what I understand, PCI-e 2.0 specs allow up to 150w to be delivered through the slot.

This would explain why W1zzard had no issues. The board he tested this card on is a PCI-e 2.0 one.

I would be interested to see this card tested on a PCI-e 1.1 motherboard.

Cheeseball · May 30, 2009, 02:42 AM

No, the PCI-E (1.x and 2.0) slot only supplies 75w. Version 2.0 specifications state that the 6-pin PEG connector provides 75w additional (and higher bandwidth, of couse).

It also states the newer 8-pin PEG connector provides 150w by itself. So in total:

75w PCI-E slot
75w 6-pin PEG connector
150w 8-pin PEG connector

300w total

Thus why the PCI-E 2.0 specification is also known as "300W". More information.

I have a Palit HD 4670 runs great on my old ASRock ALiveNF6G-VSTA motherboard, and it's only PCI-E 1.0a compliant. The Green Edition of Palit's 9600GT also runs quite fine, and it's overclocked to 700MHz core and 1GHz memory.

May 19, 2009, 02:44 PM	#1
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W1zzard Benevolent Dictator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 13,867 (4.17/day) Thanks: 184 Thanked 10,448 Times in 3,216 Posts System Specs	did you read the review? power consumption section. if you did i'll explain any additional questions you may have Last edited by W1zzard; May 27, 2009 at 03:21 PM.

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mlee49 Eligible for custom title Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: KU Posts: 6,934 (3.47/day) Thanks: 1,603 Thanked 2,064 Times in 1,610 Posts System Specs	Very thorough review guys. I'm really surprised to see this card havin a dual slot cooler design. The card shrunk in length but needs to be a single slot design to apply it better. __________________ Heatware: Mlee49 115-0

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May 27, 2009, 05:25 PM	#13
crtecha Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: ipsay meechigan Posts: 1,394 (0.84/day) Thanks: 170 Thanked 212 Times in 196 Posts System Specs	That fan does indeed look like it would be loud Thats disappointing I wonder why they dont just spend a little more time on the designing the cooling features of the card. I would gladly pay a little more for a card that will not overheat due to poorly designed cooling solutions and listen to that awful noise just trying to keep the thing cool. __________________ And now y'all try to take my spot, fellas? Philly's hot rock fellas, put you in a dry spot, fellas In a pine box with nine shots from my glock, fellas

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May 28, 2009, 06:22 PM	#22
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May 29, 2009, 08:00 PM	#24
Bull Dog Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 156 (0.06/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 17 Times in 11 Posts System Specs	Correct me if I am wrong but from what I understand, PCI-e 2.0 specs allow up to 150w to be delivered through the slot. This would explain why W1zzard had no issues. The board he tested this card on is a PCI-e 2.0 one. I would be interested to see this card tested on a PCI-e 1.1 motherboard.

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May 30, 2009, 02:42 AM	#25
Cheeseball Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 599 (0.37/day) Thanks: 53 Thanked 66 Times in 51 Posts System Specs	No, the PCI-E (1.x and 2.0) slot only supplies 75w. Version 2.0 specifications state that the 6-pin PEG connector provides 75w additional (and higher bandwidth, of couse). It also states the newer 8-pin PEG connector provides 150w by itself. So in total: 75w PCI-E slot 75w 6-pin PEG connector 150w 8-pin PEG connector 300w total Thus why the PCI-E 2.0 specification is also known as "300W". More information. I have a Palit HD 4670 runs great on my old ASRock ALiveNF6G-VSTA motherboard, and it's only PCI-E 1.0a compliant. The Green Edition of Palit's 9600GT also runs quite fine, and it's overclocked to 700MHz core and 1GHz memory.

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