Pirate Party Elected to EU Parliament

btarunr · Jun 8, 2009, 01:19 PM

The Pirate Party silenced skeptics, gathering enough votes in the European Union elections this year, to make it to the Parliament from Sweden. This serves as a huge victory to the party whose ideology revolves around fighting harsh and archaic copyright laws and enforcement agencies, that it finds incompatible with the digital age we live in. The party secured 7.1 percent of the 99.9 percent districts' votes counted, which guarantees at least one of the 18 or 20 seats Sweden contributes to the EU Parliament. Sweden has 20 seats, but until the Lisbon treaty passes only 18 with voting rights. In this case, the party might secure 2 seats.

Rick Falkvinge, leader of the party, in a statement to TorrentFreak said “Together, we have today changed the landscape of European politics. No matter how this night ends, we have changed it.” National and International press gathered in Stockholm, where the party celebrates its landmark victory. “This feels wonderful. The citizens have understood it’s time to make a difference. The older politicians have taken apart young peoples’ lifestyle, bit by bit. We do not accept that the authorities’ mass-surveillance,” Falkvinge added.

The voter turnout for the elections was 43 percent. Nearly 200,000 people voted for The Pirate Party, way up from its performance in the 2006 Swedish national elections, where it secured 34,918 votes. With their presence in the EU Parliament, the party wants to fight the abuses of power and copyright laws at the hands of the entertainment industries, and make those activities illegal instead. On the other hand they hope to legalize file-sharing for personal (non-commercial) use.

Source: TorrentFreak

tigger · Jun 8, 2009, 01:24 PM

Unfortunatley,it may be a case of a small voice,drowned out in a sea of millions of loud voices.Well done to them,but i wonder if they will be able to change anything.

TheMailMan78 · Jun 8, 2009, 01:31 PM

Great one small step for pirates, One giant fall for artists. WTF is wrong with the EU for allowing this. To hell with these people.

Weer · Jun 8, 2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Great one small step for pirates, One giant fall for artists. WTF is wrong with the EU for allowing this. To hell with these people.

Arrrr!

h3llb3nd4 · Jun 8, 2009, 01:39 PM

Thats all I'm gonna say...
People these days

Triprift · Jun 8, 2009, 01:41 PM

Arrr we be in eu Parliament me hardys.

TheMailMan78 · Jun 8, 2009, 01:47 PM

Why create?? Everything I do will be taken from me and given away. Good bye to the professional artist.

MRCL · Jun 8, 2009, 01:48 PM

European Union is fucked anyway, Pirates or not. Lets see how this turns out.

I rather would have seen a party for not banning and censoring games for adults to save the youth.

jamesrt2004 · Jun 8, 2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Why create?? Everything I do will be taken from me and given away. Good bye to the professional artist.

its not just about pirating its about getting rid of shitty things like RIIA...

TheMailMan78 · Jun 8, 2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MRCL

European Union is fucked anyway, Pirates or not. Lets see how this turns out.

I rather would have seen a party for not banning and censoring games for adults to save the youth.

You guys have no idea how much this pisses me off as an artist. There is no argument for this.

Odin Eidolon · Jun 8, 2009, 02:03 PM

this scares me quite a bit

farlex85 · Jun 8, 2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Why create?? Everything I do will be taken from me and given away. Good bye to the professional artist.

If you're only creating for monetary compensation, then I would argue you aren't really making any art. And if you're paid for advertising or something, than suck it up and stop complaining.

Anyway I hope this will actually do some good, perhaps pressure some positive changes to the digital world.

Jun 8, 2009, 02:11 PM

Say, mailman, is any of your work on TPB? Or any torrent site for that matter?

DrPepper · Jun 8, 2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Great one small step for pirates, One giant fall for artists. WTF is wrong with the EU for allowing this. To hell with these people.

Erm the EU allowed it because its democratic. The people elected them so they can't say no because others don't agree with them, although I'm glad they don't have much of a say it would only be negative to companies.

Paintface · Jun 8, 2009, 02:13 PM

good job! democracy that actually works for the people

ShogoXT · Jun 8, 2009, 02:17 PM

I think you guys are assuming things based on their name the "pirate" party. If you actually look what they are doing, they seem to be the first honest politicians in some time. You guys think this is a battle of artists vs pirates, its not. The publishing companies ever since they havent adapted to the move to digital distribution been simply stalking and suing normal people for all their money. They do it effectively and quietly without letting them get good representation. Artists themselves arent actually making this money, the publishing industry keeps its all for itself.

I for one dont recognize them anymore. They are no longer a business, they instead make a living now solely on suing. The pirate part is for net neutrality and strong privacy. Not letting these companies gang up on you and steal all your money under the guise of artists losing money.

Thats just my opinion.

Mussels · Jun 8, 2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

You guys have no idea how much this pisses me off as an artist. There is no argument for this.

and if you ever got shafted by a record company, or a big corporation you'd be thinking other thoughts.

This is part of a big shakeup - yes, some people will lose out in the meantime. but in the long term, things will get re-organised and sorted out the way the majority wants - and not the way the rich people want.

tkpenalty · Jun 8, 2009, 02:19 PM

wow. EU politics finally dont seem so boring.
We have a nazi, and we have a pirate LOL.

h3llb3nd4 · Jun 8, 2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tkpenalty

wow. EU politics finally dont seem so boring.
We have a nazi, and we have a pirate LOL.

What? does the Nazi party still exsist?

DrPepper · Jun 8, 2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by h3llb3nd4

What? does the Nazi party still exsist?

Indeed. Just a new name the BNP (British National Party) I believe.

tkpenalty · Jun 8, 2009, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by h3llb3nd4

What? does the Nazi party still exsist?

Neo nazi. That racist anti-immigration bastard, and National parties in general.

anyway To those artists who are only too concerned over their profits. You only get so much of the royalties. And music, and your image and your influence should be your concern, and not your wallet.

I've seen too many artists turn into crap when they go major. If you make music for the sake of money then forget about it. Its not music.

A Cheese Danish · Jun 8, 2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by h3llb3nd4

What? does the Nazi party still exsist?

Does here in the states. However they are silent the majority of the time.

It will be interesting to see how this turns out...

Error · Jun 8, 2009, 02:35 PM

Hello everybody

This is one great step towards a more democratic Europe. The idea is great and the only ones who probably won't benefit from the Pirate Party's ideas are the big companies (who already made tons of money, even with the piracy at hand).

For instance: if you're a musician that makes quality music and have ideas about making money from it ... you always can do some concerts/parties, sell vinyls/cds, promoting your work via sharing it freely on the web - i can bet you won't be having any problems

Let the creativity be the deciding factor ... not money.

Mussels · Jun 8, 2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Error

For instance: if you're a musician that makes quality music and have ideas about making money from it ... you always can do some concerts/parties, sell vinyls/cds, promoting your work via sharing it freely on the web - i can bet you won't be having any problems

Let the creativity be the deciding factor ... not money.

thats my way of seeing things. Sure, SOME ways of life wont work. Sitting on your ass letting your last good song pour in the millions, for example. But you can still make a lot of money even if no one buys the album - radio stations will pay to play it, TV music channels will pay for the video clips. And then theres all the live performances - people can pirate your songs, but they cant copy you so do things that focus on you, not the music.

WhiteLotus · Jun 8, 2009, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Great one small step for pirates, One giant fall for artists. WTF is wrong with the EU for allowing this. To hell with these people.

Democracy works or fails... whichever. They were voted by the people not the EU.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPepper

Indeed. Just a new name the BNP (British National Party) I believe.

and UKIP - same party different colours.

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btarunr Editor & Senior Moderator Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hyderabad, India Posts: 14,983 (7.29/day) Thanks: 788 Thanked 12,911 Times in 5,655 Posts System Specs	Pirate Party Elected to EU Parliament The Pirate Party silenced skeptics, gathering enough votes in the European Union elections this year, to make it to the Parliament from Sweden. This serves as a huge victory to the party whose ideology revolves around fighting harsh and archaic copyright laws and enforcement agencies, that it finds incompatible with the digital age we live in. The party secured 7.1 percent of the 99.9 percent districts' votes counted, which guarantees at least one of the 18 or 20 seats Sweden contributes to the EU Parliament. Sweden has 20 seats, but until the Lisbon treaty passes only 18 with voting rights. In this case, the party might secure 2 seats. Rick Falkvinge, leader of the party, in a statement to TorrentFreak said “Together, we have today changed the landscape of European politics. No matter how this night ends, we have changed it.” National and International press gathered in Stockholm, where the party celebrates its landmark victory. “This feels wonderful. The citizens have understood it’s time to make a difference. The older politicians have taken apart young peoples’ lifestyle, bit by bit. We do not accept that the authorities’ mass-surveillance,” Falkvinge added. The voter turnout for the elections was 43 percent. Nearly 200,000 people voted for The Pirate Party, way up from its performance in the 2006 Swedish national elections, where it secured 34,918 votes. With their presence in the EU Parliament, the party wants to fight the abuses of power and copyright laws at the hands of the entertainment industries, and make those activities illegal instead. On the other hand they hope to legalize file-sharing for personal (non-commercial) use. Source: TorrentFreak

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Error Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Posts: 5 (0.00/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post System Specs	Hello everybody This is one great step towards a more democratic Europe. The idea is great and the only ones who probably won't benefit from the Pirate Party's ideas are the big companies (who already made tons of money, even with the piracy at hand). For instance: if you're a musician that makes quality music and have ideas about making money from it ... you always can do some concerts/parties, sell vinyls/cds, promoting your work via sharing it freely on the web - i can bet you won't be having any problems Let the creativity be the deciding factor ... not money.

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