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Old Jun 27, 2009, 04:34 AM   #76
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A couple of people have said it is a "lousy" upgrade disc. Would someone please explain why the upgrade disc is worse than the full version disc. I am running Vista 64 Ultimate but would like to upgrade to the Pro 7. Does anyone know if the Ultimate version is worth the extra moola. Thanx.
Upgrade requires a previous version, which if you have it, great. No of course Ultimate isn't worth it, why would it be? Almost twice the price for what? Business features that you won't use. Of course if you do use them then by all means, or if you want a full language pack, or perhaps Windows will switch the versions a bit (nothing confirmed here afaik), but in all likelyhood no Ultimate is not even close to "worth it."
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Old Jun 27, 2009, 05:00 AM   #77
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I do own a legit version. Now if only the deal was available in Kanada. I have seen it all over the U.S. sites, but the Kanadian sites have no mention of it. I'll have to give it a few days, we're always behind.
 
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A couple of people have said it is a "lousy" upgrade disc. Would someone please explain why the upgrade disc is worse than the full version disc. I am running Vista 64 Ultimate but would like to upgrade to the Pro 7. Does anyone know if the Ultimate version is worth the extra moola. Thanx.
Here is MS official feature list for the different versions of Win7

Win7 Pro give automatic backup, extended support for XP mode(? more memory to run more apps?) and "Domain Join" which I don't know but guess it is a business environment intra-network system. Win7 Ultimate adds Bitlocker (drive data encyption) and ability to switch languages of the OS (to some but maybe not all available languages). For example I don't think the American Ultimate edition can switch into Japanese for the systems language.

The only one that makes sense for me is either the Japanese or English edition Win7 premium.
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Windows 7 Home Premium - $62.99 (full version), $35.99 (upgrade)
Windows 7 Professional - $80.99 (full version), $40.99 (upgrade)
Windows 7 Ultimate - $100.99 (full version), $50.99 (upgrade)

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Windows 7 should be worth the price, especially for the OEM version. Even the beta was far faster and more polished than Vista.
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Windows 7 Home Premium $29.99
Windows 7 Professional $39.99
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**Fixed.

Tell me, if Windows was this much.. Who would waste their time cracking and/or pirating it?




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I do own a legit version. Now if only the deal was available in Kanada. I have seen it all over the U.S. sites, but the Kanadian sites have no mention of it. I'll have to give it a few days, we're always behind.
Kanada? WTF? Oh, never mind. I remember, it's right next to Amerika...
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I do own a legit version. Now if only the deal was available in Kanada. I have seen it all over the U.S. sites, but the Kanadian sites have no mention of it. I'll have to give it a few days, we're always behind.
Why do you spell Canada with a K?
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Windows 7 Home Premium - $62.99 (full version), $35.99 (upgrade)
Windows 7 Professional - $80.99 (full version), $40.99 (upgrade)
Windows 7 Ultimate - $100.99 (full version), $50.99 (upgrade)

What the prices should be.
That would be fabbo if that was in Aussie dollars (wishful thinking)
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**Fixed.

Tell me, if Windows was this much.. Who would waste their time cracking and/or pirating it?




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Windows 7 Home Premium - $62.99 (full version), $35.99 (upgrade)
Windows 7 Professional - $80.99 (full version), $40.99 (upgrade)
Windows 7 Ultimate - $100.99 (full version), $50.99 (upgrade)

What the prices should be.
That would be awesome.

$200 for Home Premium is insane.
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Whats really criminal is how much MS charge per retail copy of a OS, yet HP, Dell, and all other mass producers get sold copies of Windows for pennies that still give MS billions.
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Pretty sure they have to transfer the license if the mainboard in the first computer "breaks," and you have to buy a replacement.
Correct, that is the only time the OEM version is legally transferable to new hardware.

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A 3 pack OEM is like 1000$... I just want to buy one CD/DVD and install it on 3 computers. I did that with XP and had no problems....
Legally, no version available to the consumer allows you to do that, this was true with XP also. However, if you don't really care about breaking the EUL, and don't mind making a phone call each time you install it, any version can be install multiple times...
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My personal form of protest. We are a socialist country with no personal rights. The government controls every aspect of our lives from birth to death. If any Kanadians are reading this with the "if you don't like it get out" rhetoric being generated by their brainwashed minds, trust me, I'm trying. Trudeau salute
Uhm, I don't find any of this true living in Canada. Who's to say you aren't the one filled with brainwashed rhetoric?

Is the Trudeau salute thing sarcastic, or do you actually idolize Trudeau?
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IF you are doing the beta testing of 7, you save 50% off the price of any version of windows 7, which is pretty cool.
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If you have the RC, can you just buy and install the upgrade? Also, I thought they were doing away with the different versions and were going to just have one...
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I was wondering.... if you have an OEM license copy (of vista for instance) and buy a retail upgrade (7), are you still held by the OEM licence or can you install it on a different computer?
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I was wondering.... if you have an OEM license copy (of vista for instance) and buy a retail upgrade (7), are you still held by the OEM licence or can you install it on a different computer?
IIRC if the OEM license was installed on a computer, then it is bound to that hardware, (Read the license :P )

Technically you are not allowed.

Could you get away with it? Probably pretty easily.
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you can upgrade from XP to 7 right? i do have a retail copy of XP. it's really old (pre-SP) and it's a prick to install because windows update takes a shafting.
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IIRC if the OEM license was installed on a computer, then it is bound to that hardware, (Read the license :P )

Technically you are not allowed.

Could you get away with it? Probably pretty easily.
I am guessing with all the MS online "genuine MS product" validations they may have enough already in place to check hardware. I was told with MS Office if the same license is applied on two different computers with "online registration" that it causes problems, not just for the second computer but also for the first computer.

I don't know if this is just FUD or if MS really has technology in place now to deactive both installs if the license is "invalid". Anyone know for certain, or have experience? If we don't online register we might avoid the issue though, but if we do that we might as well just get a pirated copy and not buy an OEM copy, since from MS perspective, they are equal.

Of course if MS was selling legal copies of Win7 for $35 or $50 or even $75 then this really would not be an issue. It is just hard to justify spending more on the OS than the motherboard.

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you can upgrade from XP to 7 right? i do have a retail copy of XP. it's really old (pre-SP) and it's a prick to install because windows update takes a shafting.
AFAIK, I think it will be troublesome if you do and won't technically upgrade, but you may have to
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