CypriUm - The Ultimate Water Loop Case - Page 3

masbuskado · Jul 2, 2009, 03:35 AM

I have been ask to many question on how CypriUm work!!!
So I make a quick ilustration hope you like it!!!

A Cheese Danish · Jul 2, 2009, 03:40 AM

That is some really crazy copper you got going on there!
Really true one of a kind right here!

eidairaman1 · Jul 2, 2009, 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masbuskado

I have been ask to many question on how CypriUm work!!!
So I make a quick ilustration hope you like it!!!

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...lustration.jpg

have you taken condensation into mind?

Binge · Jul 2, 2009, 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Binge

Does it get decent flow/temps?

+1 I'm really curious because I see no visible fin based radiator, and as for flow that's a lot of tubing and right angles.

masbuskado · Jul 2, 2009, 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

have you taken condensation into mind?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Binge

+1 I'm really curious because I see no visible fin based radiator, and as for flow that's a lot of tubing and right angles.

mmm... that tells me that you didn't see the video!!!

Here's one more time!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRY5JU1QaHI

damtachoa · Jul 2, 2009, 06:58 AM

this is one of the best crazy design.

Binge · Jul 2, 2009, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masbuskado

mmm... that tells me that you didn't see the video!!!

Here's one more time!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRY5JU1QaHI

I see no flow meters, no temperature readings, and no fins to channel airflow to dissapate heat. Thanks for forcing me to watch a video with absolutely no relivance to my original statement. That thanks is sarcastic. I'm actually a little sour that either you don't want to show the temps or take me for some sort of idiot.

Mark_Hardware · Jul 2, 2009, 12:56 PM

Um, I hesitate to post after angry dude, but I just wanted to say that I like how you have a few sections of clear tubing... If I may ask, what kind of tube is it, pvc or acrylic, and where did you get it?

Beertintedgoggles · Jul 2, 2009, 01:33 PM

Well one thing to remember is that the purpose of fins on heat sinks is to increase the surface area for heat dissipation. If you want to know a rough estimate for the surface area simply do the elementary math yourself.... 2*pi*r for the circumference of the copper pipes, then multiply by the length for the area. So using .0254 meters = 1 in. that should be .04 square meters of dissipation area per meter of tubing actually used as plumbing for the fluid. You probably would get better results if you had used more of the front half of the case for plumbing as well. Also, how did you plug the T connectors so that the fluid did not flow in the direction you did not intend it to? What I mean can easily be seen in regards to the pipes for the vga block. If there is nothing to block the flow of fluid straight through the two T's then none of the water will flow through the tubes into the vga block.

Edit: Condensation only comes into effect when you're cooling below ambient. Regular water cooling (this case included) will only cool as low as ambient in the absolute best case scenario. In fact the case will be warmer than ambient negating any worries of condensation. In regards to the elbow connectors, those plumbing elbows are actually swept 90 degree connectors so yes they will add some restriction but it's not as bad as a true sharp 90 degree angle.

masbuskado · Jul 2, 2009, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Binge

I see no flow meters, no temperature readings, and no fins to channel airflow to dissapate heat. Thanks for forcing me to watch a video with absolutely no relivance to my original statement. That thanks is sarcastic. I'm actually a little sour that either you don't want to show the temps or take me for some sort of idiot.

Ok... as you may see in the video is a Test one of many...!!!
The reason I didn't show you some of the main component of this build is... this is prototype for something big and better... I'll post some picture and I'll post a video too on how it work but for now that the only thing I can show... don't get mad I just want to share this with you guys...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hardware_Mark1

Um, I hesitate to post after angry dude, but I just wanted to say that I like how you have a few sections of clear tubing... If I may ask, what kind of tube is it, pvc or acrylic, and where did you get it?

Those are acrylic I get it in a local plastic shop here in NY!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beertintedgoggles

Well one thing to remember is that the purpose of fins on heat sinks is to increase the surface area for heat dissipation. If you want to know a rough estimate for the surface area simply do the elementary math yourself.... 2*pi*r for the circumference of the copper pipes, then multiply by the length for the area. So using .0254 meters = 1 in. that should be .04 square meters of dissipation area per meter of tubing actually used as plumbing for the fluid. You probably would get better results if you had used more of the front half of the case for plumbing as well. Also, how did you plug the T connectors so that the fluid did not flow in the direction you did not intend it to? What I mean can easily be seen in regards to the pipes for the vga block. If there is nothing to block the flow of fluid straight through the two T's then none of the water will flow through the tubes into the vga block.

Edit: Condensation only comes into effect when you're cooling below ambient. Regular water cooling (this case included) will only cool as low as ambient in the absolute best case scenario. In fact the case will be warmer than ambient negating any worries of condensation. In regards to the elbow connectors, those plumbing elbows are actually swept 90 degree connectors so yes they will add some restriction but it's not as bad as a true sharp 90 degree angle.

As I show in the ilustration that the basic concept but you are looking it in 2D sorry about that but that was a quick ilustration to show how it work...!!!

I'll post some pictures and vids with the temp, water running and more but first I'll need to make some deal with some guys...

BTW: the copper pipe is ID = Inside Diameter (1/2 = 0.5") and lenght of the Cooling pipe is 72" = 6' (feet)...

h3llb3nd4 · Jul 2, 2009, 02:55 PM

wow

thatr's it...

Namslas90 · Jul 2, 2009, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Binge

+1 I'm really curious because I see no visible fin based radiator, and as for flow that's a lot of tubing and right angles.

The "fins" are bent into a tube....LOL (the whole frame ends up being a "rad" actually)

If you missed the flow-meter, then you really need to watch the vid again.

@ masbuskado
kind of late now, but you could have painted or chemically "stained" the flow meter for better visibility. (Clear coat with poly after applying color or stain-to prevent coolant contamination).

Nice build!

masbuskado · Jul 2, 2009, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Namslas90

The "fins" are bent into a tube....LOL (the whole frame ends up being a "rad" actually)

If you missed the flow-meter, then you really need to watch the vid again.

@ masbuskado
kind of late now, but you could have painted or chemically "stained" the flow meter for better visibility. (Clear coat with poly after applying color or stain-to prevent coolant contamination).

Nice build!

Thank you for the Tip!!!

JrRacinFan · Jul 2, 2009, 03:39 PM

I totally love this masbuskado! Keep up the good work!

Whens the "planned" final unvealing/total finished?

masbuskado · Jul 2, 2009, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

I totally love this masbuskado! Keep up the good work!

Whens the "planned" final unvealing/total finished?

Thanks!!!

There so exclusive picture in the NMC magazine that I'll post here on 4th of July (Saturday) so I believe this will be where I reveal everything concerning this project!

domy85 · Jul 2, 2009, 04:18 PM

Im speechless. Bravo

Sasqui · Jul 2, 2009, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Namslas90

The "fins" are bent into a tube....LOL (the whole frame ends up being a "rad" actually)

You nailed it... I'm in love with the concept and execution. Copper/fittings are so easy to work with and relatively inexpensive. Not to mention the whole case is a radiator.

Now, to see the HDD mounts and backplate.

masbuskado · Jul 2, 2009, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasqui

You nailed it... I'm in love with the concept and execution. Copper/fittings are so easy to work with and relatively inexpensive. Not to mention the whole case is a radiator.

Now, to see the HDD mounts and backplate.

There you got it...!!!
The whole case is the radiator and a big heatsink...!!!
HDD mount is under the PSU (2x 2.5 Hard Drive and 2x 3.5) didn't add it cuz am taking picture of everything yet!!!

Edit: I forgot to mention there is not back plate I use extension for the VGA Card, audio and USB...

1Kurgan1 · Jul 2, 2009, 04:35 PM

Amazing job there, I like the move to black Acrylic over Clear. One question I got though is, how would you hook a monitor up to the vid card, or plug in other perpherenials.

masbuskado · Jul 2, 2009, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1Kurgan1

Amazing job there, I like the move to black Acrylic over Clear. One question I got though is, how would you hook a monitor up to the vid card, or plug in other perpherenials.

Thanks!!!
Extension Cables

http://www.datapro.net/products/dvi-...ion-cable.html

Binge · Jul 2, 2009, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Namslas90

The "fins" are bent into a tube....LOL (the whole frame ends up being a "rad" actually)

If you missed the flow-meter, then you really need to watch the vid again.

@ masbuskado
kind of late now, but you could have painted or chemically "stained" the flow meter for better visibility. (Clear coat with poly after applying color or stain-to prevent coolant contamination).

Nice build!

A tube inside of a tube is not a freaking flow meter, and to the OP I'm skeptical of how well the frame actually cools. So sue me? I love how my questions are still being dodged.

masbuskado · Jul 2, 2009, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Binge

A tube inside of a tube is not a freaking flow meter, and to the OP I'm skeptical of how well the frame actually cools. So sue me? I love how my questions are still being dodged.

Guys guys... I start this Worklog 2 days ago so I need to post the whole worklog; I'll get to temp issue, the flow meter, leaking problem and many more topics but I can't jump to the end cuz then instead a worklog I'll have a Case Gallery...!!!

Which software did you want to be use for the test?

masbuskado · Jul 2, 2009, 07:46 PM

Ok guys here some missing pictures!!!
I didn't want to make the Worklog to large anyway here they are...!
Enjoy it!

erocker · Jul 2, 2009, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Binge

A tube inside of a tube is not a freaking flow meter, and to the OP I'm skeptical of how well the frame actually cools. So sue me? I love how my questions are still being dodged.

You are not entitled to have your questions answered, nor does he owe you any answer. It is obvious the OP spent a lot of time and effort to build this and show it to everyone. Your demeanor is rather insulting, I ask you to please post in a friendly and respectful manner.

Thanks much.

MKmods · Jul 2, 2009, 07:58 PM

masbuskado the more picts I see and the further you get the more EXCELLENT this becomes.

Its so cool for me to see other materials and styles of cases being made.

Seriously, Well Done

(I was thinking how cool it would be to run the wiring inside smaller tubes inside the copper tubes, thank you for the inspiration)

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