E6600 multi-core efficiency is worse than stock and slower chips, why?

[shevanel]

right now its been running for 2 weeks with no crashes and temps have been under 58c on load

on asus p5l-mx and e6600 the FSB is 350x9

pc6400 ddr2 running at 700mhz 1:1 ratio with cpu (@ 800mhz the pc doesnt recognize any hard drives)

I noticed this in sisoft sandra tonight...





What does it mean by cannot use large page files due to privledges?


Why is the multi-core latency so much higher than stock e6600 and slower cpus?

How can I be certain my cpu is running the best it can?

[shevanel]

anyone?

[Dreadnought33]

Sorry, but I can't see the picture you're linking. Until I see it I don't know what do you mean.

[Kursah]

A little more info like system specs (you can either post it or add it in user cp, set the options to show it, see mine and dreadnought's to the left). I think you're worrying too much on synthetic benchmarks overall...but not knowing what else beyond your CPU and your slightly underclocked memory without much else is going to be hard to pinpoint what you want for suggestions. What is your goal with this PC? I don't use SiSandra anymore, it's a nice gimmick with some benchmarks, but imo it's not worth worrying over if your actual day-to-day use is good...that program might give some false red flags.

[shevanel]

@ kursah , After some researching I discovered that Sisoft can be a little quarky and misleading.

@ dreadnought, I upload image to imageshack and placed in thread using pic link but I don't know why its not showing.

[BazookaJoe]

I can't be of much help either - My E6600 ( Now replaced by a Q6600) ran VERY well overclocked on an ASUS P5W DH Deluxe - and was significantly faster in all benchmarks when overclocked.

Why don't you try and bench the system with some other tools before and after the overclock - Like normal 3Dmark? - OR get a newer version of WINRar and use its own built in multithreaded benchmark, as this will give you a far better Real-World idea as to how your chip is really performing.

I wouldn't assume it wasn't working properly JUST because Sandra says so.

[shevanel]

the winrar benchmark scores between 1170-1210 on 2-3 tries.. is that okay?

[slyfox2151]

i get 1220 with my E7300 @ 2.666Ghz

[shevanel]

I think I'm just going to buy a new computer. With a 3200 mhz e6600 and gtx 275 I can only get 30 fps on GTAIV on 1280x1024 and medium details.. Not to mention Crysis only gets about 25 FPs on medium.. The only games that really play well are Street fighter 4, need 4 speed and counter strike

[OnBoard]

Originally Posted by shevanel

I think I'm just going to buy a new computer. With a 3200 mhz e6600 and gtx 275 I can only get 30 fps on GTAIV on 1280x1024 and medium details.. Not to mention Crysis only gets about 25 FPs on medium.. The only games that really play well are Street fighter 4, need 4 speed and counter strike

For GTA IV you need quad core and for anything else you don't need quad core Your GPU is fine, just get a new motherboard and CPU. Even your CPU should be fine I can play anything with my E7200@3.2GHz and it should be just some 10% faster. A new motherboard alone could do wonders.

Although if you are limited to 1280x1024 resolution, then a faster CPU matters. But more info on your system would help, like other have said.

Fill system specas here:
http://forums.techpowerup.com/usercp.php

[shevanel]

my asus p5l-mx 667mhz board may be holding me back, I cannot even run ram past 358 mhz using pc6400...

I wonder what would happen if I bought something like a P5Q pro..

If i bought a P5Q pro then I think later on I could upgrade to a quad core?

[HalfAHertz]

Are you sure your OC is completely stable? How many hours of Prime95 small SST or OCCT did it pass? Sometimes the system may appear stable, but actually be a bit flanky. Try dropping the OC a bit and see if the results will go up

[hat]

If it passes OCCT Linpack for 4+, it's pretty much bulletproof

[shevanel]

I ran prime 95 for 13 hours without fail while I was at work, then ran TAT system load feature for 6 without fail.

[shevanel]

i just noticed in cpuz my 2gb of corsair "gaming" mem pc6400 is running in single channel mode...

the 2x1gb kingston kvr i had in before was running dual channel..

how can I get the new memory to run dual channel?

[hat]

Try moving one stick of memory on the board to a different slot. Some boards go
DIMM channel 1
DIMM channel 1

DIMM channel 2
DIMM channel 2

others go
DIMM channel 1
DIMM channel 2

DIMM channel 1
DIMM channel 2

[shevanel]

board only has two slots...

I just put the 2 sticks of kingston pc5300 in and removed the 1 stick of pc6400 and now says dual channel interleaved..

I was getting winrar bench of avg 1180, now its reading mid 1400.. with same timings/settings.. not ure how stable it is if at all, but I can already say something isnt right with that other ram.


any advice as to why "faster, higher perrformance" memory is running single channel and cannot run over 350mhz? it even scored less than pc3200 in sisoft..

is it just faulty ram?

[shevanel]

gained 11 fps on ultra in far cry 2 bench since last run 4 days ago

Average Results
Average Framerate: 39.83
Max. Framerate: 62.64
Min. Framerate: 31.47

[HalfAHertz]

Maybe there are some special settings in the bios for your board? Usually I just plug the mem in the coresponding slots and it always works in dual channel.

[shevanel]

ive spent more time in the bios these past 4 hours than i ever have.

only settings in bios for ram are DRAM throttling, timings, voltage, and preset ram speeds based on FSB.]

I'm just going to return this pc6400 to bestbuy. order the asus p5q and some ocz ram from newegg, then stick the old e2200 in this asus now and give it to my daughter for a sims 2 rig.


thanks for the help

[hat]

what motherboard do you have?

[shevanel]

asus p5l-mx

[OnBoard]

Originally Posted by shevanel

i just noticed in cpuz my 2gb of corsair "gaming" mem pc6400 is running in single channel mode...

the 2x1gb kingston kvr i had in before was running dual channel..

how can I get the new memory to run dual channel?

One 2GB stick can only work in single channel. You always need a pair of memory for dual channel.

Originally Posted by shevanel

asus p5l-mx

Wow, no wonder you don't get the performance you are after, it's Pentium 4 era motherboard, not really gaming grade

Originally Posted by shevanel

ive spent more time in the bios these past 4 hours than i ever have.

only settings in bios for ram are DRAM throttling, timings, voltage, and preset ram speeds based on FSB.]

I'm just going to return this pc6400 to bestbuy. order the asus p5q and some ocz ram from newegg, then stick the old e2200 in this asus now and give it to my daughter for a sims 2 rig.


thanks for the help

P5Q will do a lot better, it's generations ahead and with proper support for the CPU. (you could also get another 2GB stick of that PC6400 memory)

Originally Posted by shevanel

I wonder what would happen if I bought something like a P5Q pro..

If i bought a P5Q pro then I think later on I could upgrade to a quad core?

Yep you can go quad later with that. Those should start finding their way cheap on second hand around the interwebs, as people move to LGA1156.

[craigo]

Hi shevanel,

In your post it sounds like you only had a single stick of ddr2 pc6400, for dual channel operation RAM needs to be installed in multiples of two... dual channel ram will increase your scores dramaticly.

Cheers,
Craig0.

[Mussels]

The image you linked to, isnt on image shack. its a dead link.

you also used URL tags, and not IMG tags.


Dual channel ram will help overall system performance, but it wont raise FPS. Load times and system boot time will probably be decreased.

GTAIV sucks for everyone. Dont bother using that as an excuse to upgrade - you can only get disappointed when you spend $2000 and go from 30 FPS to 35 FPS.

If you intend to upgrade your CPU, grab a midrange OCing motherboard. For example, asus have a "plain" model such as the P5Q, then they have models up such as the P5Q-E, P5Q deluxe, and so on. Never get the lowest in the series, always get one model up (at least).

Reason for getting a higher end board is that its more likely to overclock better/easier. All the modern CPU's run at 333 FSB, while the motherboards support 400 (and 400Mhz is what your 800MHz ram can do at stock) - so if you get a 3GHz CPU (333x9) you can raise it to 3.6Ghz just by changing the FSB to 400x9, without technically overclocking your motherboard or ram - its risk free.