How much better the X1600pro PCE is over the AGP

DaMulta · Sep 11, 2006, 10:41 PM

My friend can play BF2 with all the ATi goodies on with the PCE ver. I'm lucky to get BF2 running on high with no ATi goodies on

Changis · Sep 11, 2006, 10:49 PM

well, post some sytstem specs.
Especially Cpu and Ram.

do your friends also have the pro version?

Dippyskoodlez · Sep 12, 2006, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaMulta

My friend can play BF2 with all the ATi goodies on with the PCE ver. I'm lucky to get BF2 running on high with no ATi goodies on

Your system is too slow?

Its the same card. It will perform the same as its not remotely close to handling the pci-e bus difference Vs AGP.

DaMulta · Sep 12, 2006, 03:30 AM

Hmmmmm hes on a 2.4 Intel Hyperthreading 2 gigs of memory(DDR 3200). I'm on a Xp2700+ TB 1 gig of Memoy........

Yes, he does have the Pro Ver of the PCE.

Changis · Sep 12, 2006, 04:03 AM

hmm, think that cpu is holding you back.. I had the x1600pro 256mb with an xp3700+ (sandiego @ 200-300mhz oc) and got around 6000-6500 in 3dmark05, what do you get?

Azn Tr14dZ · Sep 12, 2006, 04:23 AM

I don't think there is such thing as an XP 3700+, since, XP's are only Thoroughbread and Barton cores, no San Diego. You're thinking about an Athlon 64 3700+, not XP.

Dippyskoodlez · Sep 12, 2006, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaMulta

Hmmmmm hes on a 2.4 Intel Hyperthreading 2 gigs of memory(DDR 3200). I'm on a Xp2700+ TB 1 gig of Memoy........

Yes, he does have the Pro Ver of the PCE.

Problem solved.

DaMulta · Sep 12, 2006, 02:12 PM

So what if I bought a XP3200 slot A CPU, could I run it at his settings?

4100 I think was my last score in 05;

Changis · Sep 12, 2006, 02:15 PM

if you'r gonna upgrade CPU i would go for a socket 939/am (ddr ram / ddr2 ram)

DaMulta · Sep 12, 2006, 02:27 PM

I know I know, I was going to upgrade everything but instead I bought a killer set of headphones and a Fatily card with a new power supply. Which ened my upgrade Idea, I was going for x1900xt with a 3700 sandiago.

And I really want to wait for AMD 4x4 before I do my next upgrade with Crossfire DX10 with Vista.
---------
I just bought this x1600 for 160 2 months ago and bout a zalman 7300 led for it(thats 200 bucks) So I think I could get a little more use out of it. By the way the Hid IceQ is a better cooler than that, I ran -11c now I run 34c with the zalman kinnda cray it cost me 25 oc points.

I just want to play BF2 all the way maxed out it a $100 would solve this I'm all game. So would a XP3200 barton do this for me?

xman2007 · Sep 12, 2006, 03:47 PM

i dont think its your cpu holding you back to play bf2 maxed you need 2 gig of ram upgrading to a xp3200 isnt going to see any improvement, if your going to spend 100$£ etc go for the ram

thats not a bad score 4100 on your setup my highest is 4800 on 05

also id really like to see PROOF of 6500 with a x1600PRO not that your lying lol it would just pi*s the hell out of me as i cant get over 4800

trog100 · Sep 12, 2006, 06:35 PM

let just say say "mistaken".. he he he

trog

Changis · Sep 14, 2006, 03:50 PM

an amd 4*4? (4 times 4 = 16)
that would be fun, a 16 prosessors CPU

xman2007 · Sep 14, 2006, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Changis

hmm, think that cpu is holding you back.. I had the x1600pro 256mb with an xp3700+ (sandiego @ 200-300mhz oc) and got around 6000-6500 in 3dmark05, what do you get?

no proof of 6500 with a x1600PRO then? me thinks thats a tad

exagerated

Changis · Sep 14, 2006, 05:46 PM

ahh. sorry, my bad :P I got 4063 with 3700+ @ stock http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1815024

mixed up with another result, I got 6000-6500 in 03 with some shitty driver..

so 4000+ with a X1600pro shouldn't be that bad.

xman2007 · Sep 14, 2006, 05:55 PM

no problem lol just thought that score was too high

Sep 14, 2006, 06:10 PM

i can't belive the x1600 is that poor of a card, i get 6700 in 3dmark 05 with x800gto2 at 560/600 the rest is in my sig. here's proof http://service.futuremark.com/orb/pr...projectType=12

Changis · Sep 14, 2006, 09:47 PM

I couldn't believe it either, went first from a 9500@9700 to x1600pro agp (little increase, so i thought, ok upgrade cpu) went from xp2800+ to a 3700+sandiego and little to no difference in 3dmark (under 700 difference) thought, OK, ordered a X1900GT, World of a difference

cdawall · Sep 14, 2006, 09:57 PM

an xp3200 isnt worth your money even the s754 stuff beats those (my a64 3000 stock beats it) not to mention even w/ a massive oc my a64 @ cruise (2.4ghz) tops there super pi, sandra soft gaming etc not to mention you can use vista 64 bit on them

and for the price of a axp3200 you could order a cheap mobo and a64 w/ agp8x and ddr and just swap your stuff over

DaMulta · Sep 14, 2006, 10:02 PM

trog100 · Sep 15, 2006, 02:44 AM

its a poor performing card.. the cpu isnt holding it back in the slightest..

u want to spend some money.. spend it on a better grfx card..

trog

DaMulta · Sep 15, 2006, 04:01 AM

its dead now I killed my x1600

Sep 15, 2006, 09:57 AM

wow, that sux sorry man, get a better card this time lol

Sep 11, 2006, 10:41 PM	#1
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Sep 11, 2006, 10:49 PM	#2
Changis Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norwegia Posts: 313 (0.12/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	well, post some sytstem specs. Especially Cpu and Ram. do your friends also have the pro version? __________________ "Don't take any guff from those swine" -Raoul Duke Fact: Non-Smokers die every day. GLOW "glow-in-the-dark" PC the only one like it in the world?

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Sep 12, 2006, 03:30 AM	#4
DaMulta My stars went supernova Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oklahoma T-Town Posts: 10,337 (4.11/day) Thanks: 1,449 Thanked 1,477 Times in 1,113 Posts System Specs	Hmmmmm hes on a 2.4 Intel Hyperthreading 2 gigs of memory(DDR 3200). I'm on a Xp2700+ TB 1 gig of Memoy........ Yes, he does have the Pro Ver of the PCE.

Sep 12, 2006, 04:03 AM	#5
Changis Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norwegia Posts: 313 (0.12/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	hmm, think that cpu is holding you back.. I had the x1600pro 256mb with an xp3700+ (sandiego @ 200-300mhz oc) and got around 6000-6500 in 3dmark05, what do you get? __________________ "Don't take any guff from those swine" -Raoul Duke Fact: Non-Smokers die every day. GLOW "glow-in-the-dark" PC the only one like it in the world?

Sep 12, 2006, 04:23 AM	#6
Azn Tr14dZ Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,415 (1.66/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	I don't think there is such thing as an XP 3700+, since, XP's are only Thoroughbread and Barton cores, no San Diego. You're thinking about an Athlon 64 3700+, not XP.

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Sep 12, 2006, 02:12 PM	#8
DaMulta My stars went supernova Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oklahoma T-Town Posts: 10,337 (4.11/day) Thanks: 1,449 Thanked 1,477 Times in 1,113 Posts System Specs	So what if I bought a XP3200 slot A CPU, could I run it at his settings? 4100 I think was my last score in 05;

Sep 12, 2006, 02:15 PM	#9
Changis Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norwegia Posts: 313 (0.12/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	if you'r gonna upgrade CPU i would go for a socket 939/am (ddr ram / ddr2 ram) __________________ "Don't take any guff from those swine" -Raoul Duke Fact: Non-Smokers die every day. GLOW "glow-in-the-dark" PC the only one like it in the world?

Sep 12, 2006, 02:27 PM	#10
DaMulta My stars went supernova Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oklahoma T-Town Posts: 10,337 (4.11/day) Thanks: 1,449 Thanked 1,477 Times in 1,113 Posts System Specs	I know I know, I was going to upgrade everything but instead I bought a killer set of headphones and a Fatily card with a new power supply. Which ened my upgrade Idea, I was going for x1900xt with a 3700 sandiago. And I really want to wait for AMD 4x4 before I do my next upgrade with Crossfire DX10 with Vista. --------- I just bought this x1600 for 160 2 months ago and bout a zalman 7300 led for it(thats 200 bucks) So I think I could get a little more use out of it. By the way the Hid IceQ is a better cooler than that, I ran -11c now I run 34c with the zalman kinnda cray it cost me 25 oc points. I just want to play BF2 all the way maxed out it a $100 would solve this I'm all game. So would a XP3200 barton do this for me?

Sep 12, 2006, 03:47 PM	#11
xman2007 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 554 (0.20/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts System Specs	i dont think its your cpu holding you back to play bf2 maxed you need 2 gig of ram upgrading to a xp3200 isnt going to see any improvement, if your going to spend 100$£ etc go for the ram thats not a bad score 4100 on your setup my highest is 4800 on 05 also id really like to see PROOF of 6500 with a x1600PRO not that your lying lol it would just pi*s the hell out of me as i cant get over 4800

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trog100 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,401 (1.61/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 260 Times in 233 Posts System Specs	let just say say "mistaken".. he he he trog

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Sep 14, 2006, 03:50 PM	#13
Changis Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norwegia Posts: 313 (0.12/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	an amd 4*4? (4 times 4 = 16) that would be fun, a 16 prosessors CPU __________________ "Don't take any guff from those swine" -Raoul Duke Fact: Non-Smokers die every day. GLOW "glow-in-the-dark" PC the only one like it in the world?

Sep 14, 2006, 05:46 PM	#15
Changis Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norwegia Posts: 313 (0.12/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	ahh. sorry, my bad :P I got 4063 with 3700+ @ stock http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1815024 mixed up with another result, I got 6000-6500 in 03 with some shitty driver.. so 4000+ with a X1600pro shouldn't be that bad. __________________ "Don't take any guff from those swine" -Raoul Duke Fact: Non-Smokers die every day. GLOW "glow-in-the-dark" PC the only one like it in the world?

Sep 14, 2006, 05:55 PM	#16
xman2007 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 554 (0.20/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts System Specs	no problem lol just thought that score was too high __________________ I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing. http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=23528

Sep 14, 2006, 06:10 PM	#17
psychomage343 Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	i can't belive the x1600 is that poor of a card, i get 6700 in 3dmark 05 with x800gto2 at 560/600 the rest is in my sig. here's proof http://service.futuremark.com/orb/pr...projectType=12

Sep 14, 2006, 09:47 PM	#18
Changis Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norwegia Posts: 313 (0.12/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	I couldn't believe it either, went first from a 9500@9700 to x1600pro agp (little increase, so i thought, ok upgrade cpu) went from xp2800+ to a 3700+sandiego and little to no difference in 3dmark (under 700 difference) thought, OK, ordered a X1900GT, World of a difference __________________ "Don't take any guff from those swine" -Raoul Duke Fact: Non-Smokers die every day. GLOW "glow-in-the-dark" PC the only one like it in the world?

Sep 14, 2006, 09:57 PM	#19
cdawall where the hell are my stars Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: some AF base Posts: 16,182 (6.41/day) Thanks: 460 Thanked 2,810 Times in 2,256 Posts System Specs	an xp3200 isnt worth your money even the s754 stuff beats those (my a64 3000 stock beats it) not to mention even w/ a massive oc my a64 @ cruise (2.4ghz) tops there super pi, sandra soft gaming etc not to mention you can use vista 64 bit on them and for the price of a axp3200 you could order a cheap mobo and a64 w/ agp8x and ddr and just swap your stuff over __________________

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Sep 14, 2006, 10:02 PM	#20
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Sep 15, 2006, 02:44 AM	#21
trog100 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,401 (1.61/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 260 Times in 233 Posts System Specs	its a poor performing card.. the cpu isnt holding it back in the slightest.. u want to spend some money.. spend it on a better grfx card.. trog

Sep 15, 2006, 04:01 AM	#22
DaMulta My stars went supernova Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oklahoma T-Town Posts: 10,337 (4.11/day) Thanks: 1,449 Thanked 1,477 Times in 1,113 Posts System Specs	its dead now I killed my x1600

Sep 15, 2006, 09:57 AM	#23
psychomage343 Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	wow, that sux sorry man, get a better card this time lol

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