*** F@H Tech Assistance Thread *** - Page 2

theonedub · Aug 1, 2009, 04:34 PM

I swear this 1888 unit is never using the GPU @ 100% not even in pulses. Im a little weary of OCing, my last OC adventure was upsetting and unsuccessful. I read the stickies and read up on it, seems like this thing can be clocked easy (just like my e5200 was supposedly). How do you test if an OC was stable on a video card? OCCT?

BUCK NASTY · Aug 1, 2009, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theonedub

Yes thats on the GSO @ stock clocks (c580/s1334/m500). Sounds like thats too long even for this card? What should I do?

Use EVGA Precision to up the clocks to 700/1700/800. The GSO's overclock like mad and are absolutely bullet proof. Trust me, as I have 12 of them. Can you post the brand/model of GSO you have?

theonedub · Aug 1, 2009, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BUCK NASTY

Use EVGA Precision to up the clocks to 700/1700/800.

What is a good setting for a less 'extreme' oc?

BUCK NASTY · Aug 1, 2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by theonedub

What is a good setting for a less 'extreme' oc?

Can you post the brand/model of GSO you have?

theonedub · Aug 1, 2009, 04:42 PM

Pretty sure it is an XFX PVT96OSDFH.

BUCK NASTY · Aug 1, 2009, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by theonedub

Pretty sure it is an XFX PVT96OSDFH.

Meh, DDR2 model. You are limited by the memory bandwidth. You can still clock the hell out of the core/shaders.

theonedub · Aug 1, 2009, 04:47 PM

OK, what should I set it to then? How do I test it for stability?

BUCK NASTY · Aug 1, 2009, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by theonedub

OK, what should I set it to then? How do I test it for stability?

Core 650/shaders 1600/mem 600
You may have more room to work with on the memory. Fan should be at 100%, which I think is default for that model. Is it too late for you to return it? It will never get within 80% of DDR3 GSO production.

mike047 · Aug 1, 2009, 04:51 PM

It will do 1750

without issue.

Use EVGA precision.

@Buck, it was part of my farm.

theonedub · Aug 1, 2009, 04:57 PM

Man Buck, way to put a downer on my GPU Folding high

Ill clock it up, guess I should've found a way to get the 250 instead in retrospect.

Got it running at c650/1650/600. Slight whine from PSU when the card is at load- normal, right?

mike047 · Aug 1, 2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by theonedub

Man Buck, way to put a downer on my GPU Folding high

Ill clock it up, guess I should've found a way to get the 250 instead in retrospect.

Got it running at c650/1650/600. Slight whine from PSU when the card is at load- normal, right?

I only overclocked the shader. You might wait for the new PSU to run it up to 1750.

theonedub · Aug 1, 2009, 05:32 PM

Okay, c600/1650/500 for now, core @ 600 just to round it out. I think this is a fine GPU, it absolutely kills my PS3 in terms of PPD.

theonedub · Aug 1, 2009, 07:15 PM

Another oddity with these 1888s. When its running with WCG the temps only go from 49c-56c in pulses, but when I suspend WCG the gpu temps go up to 62C constant and my PPD increases. WCG is set to low priority and F@H is set to normal. Thoughts?

El Fiendo · Aug 1, 2009, 09:47 PM

I recommend getting Prifinity (google that and it will come up) and setting the GPU client to a higher priority then what the client's own settings will allow. The upside to a standalone program and not using task manager is task manager won't save the settings. So each time a WU is uploaded, it will revert back to default priority.

BUCK NASTY · Aug 1, 2009, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theonedub

Okay, c600/1650/500 for now, core @ 600 just to round it out. I think this is a fine GPU, it absolutely kills my PS3 in terms of PPD.

Bump up your memory to 600. It will increase you memory bus and therefore, increase PPD. I had 2 of those cards before and got a max of 3100ppd with a 353pt WU. What are you getting now and what WU?

theonedub · Aug 1, 2009, 11:28 PM

On the 353s I am averaging 3244ppd and that was with stock clocks. Have not had any on the OC yet with the epic 1888 running.

It says I am getting 2691avg on this 1888. The rolling 3 frame average gets as high as 3200. It gets much higher without WCG running as well. I will bump the mem to 600 for the time being.

I will look into Prifinity as well. Thanks for the advice.

Update-----> Current 1888 is avg a steady ~3300ppd w/ card @ c600/1650/600, much more bearable. Should only take 12hrs which sounds about right.

krusha03 · Aug 6, 2009, 02:45 PM

I have a question. I used the tweak guide for ati cards to reduce CPU usage since i wanted to fold with the CPU as well and with the SMP client running alone I get only around 600PPD. My system specs are:

AMD X2 Athlon 4000+ @ 2.65GHz
2GB DDR Ram
HD4850 512MB DDR3 @ 700/1090

Now i know this CPU is weak but from what I read FAH is only clock dependent and C2D and AMD X2 at the same clock should provide more or less the same PPD. My T9300 at 2.5GHz gives me around 1200PPD which is double my AMD. Is this ok?

Also my HD4850 is giving me around 2200-2500PPD depending on the project. Is this because of the CPU or this is normal? According to the reviews here at TPU it should be more around 3000PPD.

stanhemi · Aug 6, 2009, 06:22 PM

are you using ''get and set cpu affinity'' ?

my 4850 gave me around 3000-4200 ppd and don't overclocked your memory only the core.

goldfries · Aug 6, 2009, 08:33 PM

from my experience, the HD4850 was only giving me about 2.4k to 2.7k PPD. I was running the Asus HD4850 Top. even the 9600GT out ran it for folding.

NastyHabits · Aug 6, 2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by goldfries

from my experience, the HD4850 was only giving me about 2.4k to 2.7k PPD. I was running the Asus HD4850 Top. even the 9600GT out ran it for folding.

Ditto here. Saving my pennies and living on rice and beans 'til I can afford a GTS 250

BUCK NASTY · Aug 6, 2009, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krusha03

Now i know this CPU is weak but from what I read FAH is only clock dependent and C2D and AMD X2 at the same clock should provide more or less the same PPD. My T9300 at 2.5GHz gives me around 1200PPD which is double my AMD. Is this ok?

Your T9300 is essentially a underclocked E8400, so your PPD is correct. Intel crunches/folds more efficiently than AMD. I get 800 ppd from my 65nm Athlon X2's.

stanhemi · Aug 6, 2009, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldfries

from my experience, the HD4850 was only giving me about 2.4k to 2.7k PPD. I was running the Asus HD4850 Top. even the 9600GT out ran it for folding.

sorry but the 4850 produce 2500-4200ppd

krusha03 · Aug 7, 2009, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stanhemi

are you using ''get and set cpu affinity'' ?

my 4850 gave me around 3000-4200 ppd and don't overclocked your memory only the core.

CPU affinity lock is enabled or actually it says Disable CPU affinity lock - NO, I have no idea what does this command do

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUCK NASTY

Your T9300 is essentially a underclocked E8400, so your PPD is correct. Intel crunches/folds more efficiently than AMD. I get 800 ppd from my 65nm Athlon X2's.

Ok so the places where i read that info were incorrect since someone stated there that FAH is a rare application where AMD and Intel work with same efficiency and the clock is the main factor.

stanhemi · Aug 7, 2009, 02:18 AM

http://edgemeal.110mb.com/SetAffinity/index.htm

take this one :Get and Set CPU Affinity v2.37.0

edit:Set CPU Affinity and Priority of files manually or automatically

goldfries · Aug 7, 2009, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stanhemi

sorry but the 4850 produce 2500-4200ppd

ok.

i've not seen it but will note what you mentioned. I've done f@h on HD4890 and HD4870X2 as well and even that i don't get more than 3k PPD on average.

I did note that more CPU resources used when using ATI card. I get about 13.5k PPD For GTX295. 3.5k for 9600GT and 5.5k for GTS250.

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Aug 1, 2009, 04:34 PM	#26
theonedub habe fidem Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Northern CA Posts: 6,668 (4.41/day) Thanks: 2,320 Thanked 3,219 Times in 1,937 Posts System Specs	I swear this 1888 unit is never using the GPU @ 100% not even in pulses. Im a little weary of OCing, my last OC adventure was upsetting and unsuccessful. I read the stickies and read up on it, seems like this thing can be clocked easy (just like my e5200 was supposedly). How do you test if an OC was stable on a video card? OCCT?

Aug 1, 2009, 04:42 PM	#30
theonedub habe fidem Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Northern CA Posts: 6,668 (4.41/day) Thanks: 2,320 Thanked 3,219 Times in 1,937 Posts System Specs	Pretty sure it is an XFX PVT96OSDFH.

Aug 1, 2009, 04:47 PM	#32
theonedub habe fidem Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Northern CA Posts: 6,668 (4.41/day) Thanks: 2,320 Thanked 3,219 Times in 1,937 Posts System Specs	OK, what should I set it to then? How do I test it for stability?

Aug 1, 2009, 04:51 PM	#34
mike047 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Zirconia NC usa Posts: 456 (0.30/day) Thanks: 147 Thanked 171 Times in 112 Posts System Specs	It will do 1750 without issue. Use EVGA precision. @Buck, it was part of my farm. __________________ mike Disclaimer; I am old and frequently forget, so this may or may not be accurate...but to the best of my knowledge it is what I recall. MY HEAT/MY EBAY

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Aug 1, 2009, 04:57 PM	#35
theonedub habe fidem Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Northern CA Posts: 6,668 (4.41/day) Thanks: 2,320 Thanked 3,219 Times in 1,937 Posts System Specs	Man Buck, way to put a downer on my GPU Folding high Ill clock it up, guess I should've found a way to get the 250 instead in retrospect. Got it running at c650/1650/600. Slight whine from PSU when the card is at load- normal, right? __________________ My Heatware Feedback 129+ Pristine Last edited by theonedub; Aug 1, 2009 at 05:17 PM.

Aug 1, 2009, 05:32 PM	#37
theonedub habe fidem Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Northern CA Posts: 6,668 (4.41/day) Thanks: 2,320 Thanked 3,219 Times in 1,937 Posts System Specs	Okay, c600/1650/500 for now, core @ 600 just to round it out. I think this is a fine GPU, it absolutely kills my PS3 in terms of PPD.

Aug 1, 2009, 07:15 PM	#38
theonedub habe fidem Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Northern CA Posts: 6,668 (4.41/day) Thanks: 2,320 Thanked 3,219 Times in 1,937 Posts System Specs	Another oddity with these 1888s. When its running with WCG the temps only go from 49c-56c in pulses, but when I suspend WCG the gpu temps go up to 62C constant and my PPD increases. WCG is set to low priority and F@H is set to normal. Thoughts?

Aug 1, 2009, 09:47 PM	#39
El Fiendo Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 1,846 (1.05/day) Thanks: 363 Thanked 1,183 Times in 546 Posts System Specs	I recommend getting Prifinity (google that and it will come up) and setting the GPU client to a higher priority then what the client's own settings will allow. The upside to a standalone program and not using task manager is task manager won't save the settings. So each time a WU is uploaded, it will revert back to default priority. __________________ “If you don't dip your words in sugar, rainbows and teddy bears people will think you wish to hunt them down to torture and eventually kill them.” -DanTheBanjoman

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Aug 1, 2009, 11:28 PM	#41
theonedub habe fidem Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Northern CA Posts: 6,668 (4.41/day) Thanks: 2,320 Thanked 3,219 Times in 1,937 Posts System Specs	On the 353s I am averaging 3244ppd and that was with stock clocks. Have not had any on the OC yet with the epic 1888 running. It says I am getting 2691avg on this 1888. The rolling 3 frame average gets as high as 3200. It gets much higher without WCG running as well. I will bump the mem to 600 for the time being. I will look into Prifinity as well. Thanks for the advice. Update-----> Current 1888 is avg a steady ~3300ppd w/ card @ c600/1650/600, much more bearable. Should only take 12hrs which sounds about right. Last edited by theonedub; Aug 2, 2009 at 03:38 AM.

Aug 6, 2009, 02:45 PM	#42
krusha03 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Macedonia / Netherlands Posts: 46 (0.02/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	I have a question. I used the tweak guide for ati cards to reduce CPU usage since i wanted to fold with the CPU as well and with the SMP client running alone I get only around 600PPD. My system specs are: AMD X2 Athlon 4000+ @ 2.65GHz 2GB DDR Ram HD4850 512MB DDR3 @ 700/1090 Now i know this CPU is weak but from what I read FAH is only clock dependent and C2D and AMD X2 at the same clock should provide more or less the same PPD. My T9300 at 2.5GHz gives me around 1200PPD which is double my AMD. Is this ok? Also my HD4850 is giving me around 2200-2500PPD depending on the project. Is this because of the CPU or this is normal? According to the reviews here at TPU it should be more around 3000PPD.

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Aug 6, 2009, 06:22 PM	#43
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Aug 6, 2009, 08:33 PM	#44
goldfries Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Malaysia Posts: 66 (0.05/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts System Specs	from my experience, the HD4850 was only giving me about 2.4k to 2.7k PPD. I was running the Asus HD4850 Top. even the 9600GT out ran it for folding.

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Aug 7, 2009, 02:18 AM	#49
stanhemi Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Montreal,-Canada. Posts: 789 (0.45/day) Thanks: 628 Thanked 355 Times in 217 Posts System Specs	http://edgemeal.110mb.com/SetAffinity/index.htm take this one :Get and Set CPU Affinity v2.37.0 edit:Set CPU Affinity and Priority of files manually or automatically __________________ ''I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific.'' RIG2 Q6600@3010mhz-Xiggy s1283-2g corsair xms 800-x1950 pro-enermax 485 watt-P5QPL-AM RIG3 P4 531@3600mhz-P5ld2-vm-1g ddr2 533 Rig4 AMD??-Asus M4A785TD-V-2x1g kingston ddr3 1333mhz-psu??? http://stats.free-dc.org/projusertag...94936&theme=14

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