techPowerUp! Forums

Go Back   techPowerUp! Forums > www.techpowerup.com > News

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old Aug 12, 2009, 12:10 PM   #1
malware
Eligible for custom title
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Bulgaria
Posts: 5,413 (1.74/day)
Thanks: 78
Thanked 986 Times in 497 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to malware Send a message via MSN to malware Send a message via Skype™ to malware

System Specs

OCZ Technology Intros Solid 2 Series 2.5-inch Solid-State Drives

OCZ Technology Group, a worldwide leader in innovative, ultra-high performance and high reliability memory and computer components, today unveiled the OCZ Solid 2 SATA II 2.5" Solid State Drive (SSD) Series, the ultra-affordable MLC based solid state storage solution for mainstream consumers looking to take advantage of flash based storage technology. Offering a faster and more durable alternative to traditional hard drives in a cost-efficient SSD, the Solid 2 delivers reliable performance without the high price normally associated with SSD drives.




"While solid state drives offer exceptional performance, the high cost of ownership has been a barrier for many consumers," commented Eugene Chang, Vice President of Product Development at the OCZ technology Group. "It has always been our goal to make quality SSD drives affordable to the complete range of customers. By making use of the proven Indilinx controller coupled new flash technology, OCZ is excited to introduce the Solid 2 that delivers increased reliability and performance over competing traditional and solid state solutions at a price point that is truly within reach of mainstream consumers."

For users looking to upgrade their laptops or configure a cost effective RAID array in their home or office desktop PC, the OCZ Solid 2 Series is an excellent starting point into the world of SSDs. This line provides the best of both worlds - the performance and advantages of solid-state technology at an incredible value. Based on the quality Indilinx controller, the Solid 2 Series delivers an enhanced computing experience with faster application loading, snappier data access, shorter boot-ups, and longer battery life. Solid 2 SSDs feature HDD-dominating access times, up to 125 MB/s read and 100 MB/s write speeds, 64 MB of onboard cache, and unique performance optimization to keep the drives at peak performance.

OCZ Solid 2 drives feature a durable yet lightweight alloy housing, and because OCZ SSDs have no moving parts, the drives are more rugged than conventional hard drives. Available in ample storage capacities of 60(64) GB and 120(128) GB, Solid 2 SSDs state drives meet the needs of users looking for a quality hard drive replacement.

Designed for ultimate reliability, Solid 2 Series SSDs have an excellent 1.5 million hour mean time between failure (MTBF) ensuring peace of mind over the long term. OCZ also offers a leading 3-year warranty and award-winning technical support with the Solid 2 Series, making SSDs a more viable upgrade for cautious users requiring ultimate levels of customer service.

For more information on the OCZ Solid 2 SSD, please visit our product page here.

Source: OCZ Technology
malware is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 12, 2009, 12:12 PM   #2
MoonPig
3500 Posts
 
MoonPig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Wakefield, UK
Posts: 4,085 (2.34/day)
Thanks: 715
Thanked 903 Times in 621 Posts

System Specs

How many OCZ SSD's does this make now...? Has to be more than 5...

*whoop, 1920 posts... lol
MoonPig is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 12, 2009, 12:22 PM   #3
Mussels
Doctor Moderator
 
Mussels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Bendigo, Australia (NOT THE USA)
Posts: 34,550 (10.97/day)
Thanks: 3,699
Thanked 8,689 Times in 6,389 Posts

System Specs

OCZ just have too many SSDs. i've lost track of them all.

dont worry piggy, i passed 15,000 :P
Mussels is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 12, 2009, 12:27 PM   #4
MoonPig
3500 Posts
 
MoonPig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Wakefield, UK
Posts: 4,085 (2.34/day)
Thanks: 715
Thanked 903 Times in 621 Posts

System Specs

yea, i'm guessing they get better. But why release soooo many... Intel, Patriot, Corsair etc all have like 2 or 3... OCZ have loads.

I wasn't showing off, haha. My res is 1920x1080, so it was just a giggle... haha. Unless your res is 15000 x ?????, lol.
MoonPig is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 12, 2009, 01:24 PM   #5
rake
25 Posts
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 61 (0.04/day)
Thanks: 3
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts

System Specs

Quote:
Originally Posted by MoonPig View Post
yea, i'm guessing they get better. But why release soooo many... Intel, Patriot, Corsair etc all have like 2 or 3... OCZ have loads.
It's a developing technology with frequent revisions, that's why the SSD market is such a quagmire right now. I'm taking a wild guess that the original 'Solid' series did not support Trim/Wiper (much like Intel's 1st gen drives) and probably didn't have the Indilinx controller.

Advancements in NAND flash technology also bring about increased capacity and lower manufacturing cost.
rake is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 12, 2009, 02:37 PM   #6
lemonadesoda
Eligible for custom title
 
lemonadesoda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 5,337 (2.17/day)
Thanks: 749
Thanked 960 Times in 710 Posts

System Specs

Quote:
Originally Posted by MoonPig View Post
How many OCZ SSD's does this make now...? Has to be more than 5...
OCZ Agility
OCZ Apex
OCZ Core
OCZ Core v2
OCZ Slate
OCZ Solid
OCZ (original) IDE
OCZ (original) SATA II
OCZ Summit
OCZ Vertex
OCZ Vertex EX
OCZ Vertex Mac Edition
OCZ Vertex Turbo
OCZ Solid 2
OCZ Z-drive

WTF?
lemonadesoda is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 12, 2009, 02:38 PM   #7
Fx
200 Posts
 
Fx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Prescott, AZ
Posts: 447 (0.27/day)
Thanks: 75
Thanked 86 Times in 72 Posts

System Specs

"OCZ Technology Group, a worldwide leader in innovative, ultra-high performance and high reliability memory and computer components, today unveiled the OCZ Solid 2 SATA II 2.5" Solid State Drive (SSD) Series, the ultra-affordable MLC based solid state storage solution for mainstream consumers looking to take advantage of flash based storage technology. Offering a faster and more durable alternative to traditional hard drives in a cost-efficient SSD, the Solid 2 delivers reliable performance without the high price normally associated with SSD drives."

yet they dont include the price... what assclowns

the read performance is subpar and the write performace is very potentially subpar as well because I doubt their algorithms can even start to compare with Intel's

I dont know why they would want to release this
__________________
Never play leapfrog with a Unicorn.
Bitch Slap™ Helping bitches listen since 1931.
Fx is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 12, 2009, 02:45 PM   #8
mk_ln
200 Posts
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 288 (0.11/day)
Thanks: 82
Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts

System Specs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fx View Post
yet they dont include the price... what assclowns

the read performance is subpar and the write performace is very potentially subpar as well because I doubt their algorithms can even start to compare with Intel's

I dont know why they would want to release this
i think this is to compete w/ the jmicron drives, which is why performance is as it is.
__________________
Sex without love is an empty experience, but, as empty experiences go, it's one of the best.
mk_ln is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 12, 2009, 02:51 PM   #9
Fx
200 Posts
 
Fx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Prescott, AZ
Posts: 447 (0.27/day)
Thanks: 75
Thanked 86 Times in 72 Posts

System Specs

Quote:
Originally Posted by mk_ln View Post
i think this is to compete w/ the jmicron drives, which is why performance is as it is.
with that kind of performance I would just as soon buy a much cheaper hdd than this

this isnt innovation and is only for them to maximize their profits because many misinformed people buy this stuff simply from seeing fancy art and marketing buzz words on the package

gah
__________________
Never play leapfrog with a Unicorn.
Bitch Slap™ Helping bitches listen since 1931.
Fx is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 12, 2009, 02:57 PM   #10
Mussels
Doctor Moderator
 
Mussels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Bendigo, Australia (NOT THE USA)
Posts: 34,550 (10.97/day)
Thanks: 3,699
Thanked 8,689 Times in 6,389 Posts

System Specs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fx View Post
with that kind of performance I would just as soon buy a much cheaper hdd than this

this isnt innovation and is only for them to maximize their profits because many misinformed people buy this stuff simply from seeing fancy art and marketing buzz words on the package

gah
just because your preference is elsewhere, does not mean the product is flawed.
Also, just because your knowledge is flawed, does not make this product flawed.

"up to 125 MB/s read and 100 MB/s write speeds" - only the latest drives (1TB+) offer similar speeds - and only on the outer edges of the platters. they all dip below 75MB/s write, so in fact - there are no mechanical hard drives as fast as this.

There is also access times to consider, power draw, heat, noise, and the fact this is 2.5" and not 3.5". Find me a 2.5" drive with this performance, and i'll praise you as the lord and saviour.
Mussels is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 12, 2009, 02:58 PM   #11
angelkiller
1000 Posts
 
angelkiller's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 1,228 (0.67/day)
Thanks: 446
Thanked 225 Times in 201 Posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fx View Post
with that kind of performance I would just as soon buy a much cheaper hdd than this

this isnt innovation and is only for them to maximize their profits because many misinformed people buy this stuff simply from seeing fancy art and marketing buzz words on the package

gah
What?

No hard drive can match that performance across the whole drive. Sure a hdd might be able to get a 125MB/s read on the outside of the platter, but what happens after you fill it up to 50%? And let's not even talk about access times.

I think this product would be perfect for laptops. It'll be cheaper than current SSDs and will absolutely destroy any laptop hdd.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mussels View Post
Find me a 2.5" drive with this performance, and i'll praise you as the lord and saviour.
*desperately starts searching the internet*
angelkiller is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 12, 2009, 03:09 PM   #12
Fx
200 Posts
 
Fx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Prescott, AZ
Posts: 447 (0.27/day)
Thanks: 75
Thanked 86 Times in 72 Posts

System Specs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mussels View Post
just because your preference is elsewhere, does not mean the product is flawed.
Also, just because your knowledge is flawed, does not make this product flawed.

"up to 125 MB/s read and 100 MB/s write speeds" - only the latest drives (1TB+) offer similar speeds - and only on the outer edges of the platters. they all dip below 75MB/s write, so in fact - there are no mechanical hard drives as fast as this.

There is also access times to consider, power draw, heat, noise, and the fact this is 2.5" and not 3.5". Find me a 2.5" drive with this performance, and i'll praise you as the lord and saviour.
you mention common factors of 2.5 drives - THANKS. i totally forgot about those... all SSD's have those so that point is nill

there are many other drives that blow this away in terms of performance. consumers dont need underperforming specs. we need the manufactures to push the tech

please take your feelings off your sleeve Mussels...
__________________
Never play leapfrog with a Unicorn.
Bitch Slap™ Helping bitches listen since 1931.
Fx is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 12, 2009, 03:11 PM   #13
Jizzler
2000 Posts
 
Jizzler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Geneva, FL, USA
Posts: 3,010 (1.43/day)
Thanks: 567
Thanked 606 Times in 487 Posts

System Specs

Exactly, I was thinking that these were great drives for me.

6 x 60GB = ICH melter, along with a good amount of capacity at *hopefully* a good price per drive, as they're not bleeding-edge 200MB/s+ drives.
Jizzler is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 12, 2009, 03:12 PM   #14
Mussels
Doctor Moderator
 
Mussels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Bendigo, Australia (NOT THE USA)
Posts: 34,550 (10.97/day)
Thanks: 3,699
Thanked 8,689 Times in 6,389 Posts

System Specs

and if this SSD is half the price, or a third the price of those overperforming ones?

Please, think before posting.

By your logic all hard drives except velociraptors and intel SSD's should stop being produced, all CPU's except the i7 965 should be discontinued, and all memory that isnt 2GHz DDR3 should stop being made.

But hey, why stop there! theres tons of value for money products we can kill off, just because they arent the best performing in their class.
Mussels is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 12, 2009, 03:21 PM   #15
rake
25 Posts
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 61 (0.04/day)
Thanks: 3
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts

System Specs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fx View Post
we need the manufactures to push the tech
"Pushing a tech" that's too costly to ensure wide adoption is a sure-fire way to go out of business in a hurry. These mid-range product lines serve a dual purpose... they allow the average spender to gain access to exciting technology improvements and thus finance further development of the high-end products.

It's a win-win the way I see it.
rake is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 12, 2009, 03:33 PM   #16
Fx
200 Posts
 
Fx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Prescott, AZ
Posts: 447 (0.27/day)
Thanks: 75
Thanked 86 Times in 72 Posts

System Specs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mussels View Post
and if this SSD is half the price, or a third the price of those overperforming ones?

Please, think before posting.

By your logic all hard drives except velociraptors and intel SSD's should stop being produced, all CPU's except the i7 965 should be discontinued, and all memory that isnt 2GHz DDR3 should stop being made.

But hey, why stop there! theres tons of value for money products we can kill off, just because they arent the best performing in their class.

you wanna talk logic?... ok

as a smart consumer whenever I buy hardware I buy something that is atleast slightly above the norm (in terms of performance) that way I am kind of future proofing. there is always a sweet spot if you look for it without having to pay premiums. if you keep buying subpar products then you actually are going to upgrade more often than I am therefore spending more money than me even though I paid a little more upfront initially

suit yourself though! to each his own right?!

one more fun fact. when you go to upgrade you are going to have a hell of a time trying to get a decent return back to go towards your new hardware because no one wants yesterday's avg. drive however you will always find someone to give you a fair amount for yesterday's high-performance drive...
__________________
Never play leapfrog with a Unicorn.
Bitch Slap™ Helping bitches listen since 1931.

Last edited by Fx; Aug 12, 2009 at 04:03 PM.
Fx is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 12, 2009, 03:47 PM   #17
Kitkat
500 Posts
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 767 (0.52/day)
Thanks: 44
Thanked 77 Times in 54 Posts

get the kingston, there are only 4 right lol less confusion no sputting shuttering or anything no revisions or anything silly. (and yes its jmicron whadever but they solved the problems completely) ocz and gskill have a $hit load of work to do. and they are doing it.... they just never take out the trash when they are done. Make good psus tho, atleast itll lower price right

Quote:
Originally Posted by lemonadesoda View Post
OCZ Agility
OCZ Apex
OCZ Core
OCZ Core v2
OCZ Slate
OCZ Solid
OCZ (original) IDE
OCZ (original) SATA II
OCZ Summit
OCZ Vertex
OCZ Vertex EX
OCZ Vertex Mac Edition
OCZ Vertex Turbo
OCZ Solid 2
OCZ Z-drive

WTF?
yeah well there u go :\
Kitkat is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 12, 2009, 03:50 PM   #18
Fx
200 Posts
 
Fx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Prescott, AZ
Posts: 447 (0.27/day)
Thanks: 75
Thanked 86 Times in 72 Posts

System Specs

Quote:
Originally Posted by rake View Post
"Pushing a tech" that's too costly to ensure wide adoption is a sure-fire way to go out of business in a hurry. These mid-range product lines serve a dual purpose... they allow the average spender to gain access to exciting technology improvements and thus finance further development of the high-end products.

It's a win-win the way I see it.
Intel is showing a fine example of pushing the tech. it saves them in manufacturing costs and I am certain they have more room to cut costs even more when the time is right

I am not against mid-range products. there is a need for them as not everyone is an enthusiast. what struck a coord with me is OCZ in particular releasing yet another one

Lemonsoda posted an example of what I am talking about. you dont have to have lots of mid-range products to fill that niche. they are flooding the market singlehandly when that should be done by all manufactures

besides, when you push tech - yesterday's high-performance hardware becomes excellent avg performing hardware and for a good price. that is the best way for everyone to benefit
__________________
Never play leapfrog with a Unicorn.
Bitch Slap™ Helping bitches listen since 1931.
Fx is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 12, 2009, 03:59 PM   #19
rake
25 Posts
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 61 (0.04/day)
Thanks: 3
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts

System Specs

Intel probably sunk an unholy amount into R&D, which they can afford to do considering their massive mainstream revenue streams. There is simply no other company in a similar position.

I agree, OCZ need to tidy up their product lines, but what is worse still is to see legacy tech being offered by all the retailers right alongside the newer stuff.
rake is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 12, 2009, 05:32 PM   #20
HolyCow02
1000 Posts
 
HolyCow02's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: New York
Posts: 1,251 (0.69/day)
Thanks: 90
Thanked 114 Times in 107 Posts

System Specs

Too many SSD's! And these aren't even fast. Why release more, slower versions when they could just drop the prices of the old ones?
__________________

thanks to stefanels for the sig!
HolyCow02 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 13, 2009, 01:23 AM   #21
Mussels
Doctor Moderator
 
Mussels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Bendigo, Australia (NOT THE USA)
Posts: 34,550 (10.97/day)
Thanks: 3,699
Thanked 8,689 Times in 6,389 Posts

System Specs

Quote:
Originally Posted by HolyCow02 View Post
Too many SSD's! And these aren't even fast. Why release more, slower versions when they could just drop the prices of the old ones?
because they cant just drop prices?

its not like they sold them at a massive profit, the old ones cost more to make.
Mussels is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 14, 2009, 08:57 AM   #22
Breit
75 Posts
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Jena, Germany
Posts: 140 (0.04/day)
Thanks: 6
Thanked 28 Times in 15 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to Breit Send a message via MSN to Breit

System Specs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mussels View Post
"up to 125 MB/s read and 100 MB/s write speeds" - only the latest drives (1TB+) offer similar speeds - and only on the outer edges of the platters. they all dip below 75MB/s write, so in fact - there are no mechanical hard drives as fast as this.
where did you get your information? thats simply not true! a recent sas drive can double that at least... for instance a seagate 15k.7 deliver write speeds (and read speeds as well) of 160mb/s minimum (inner region) and up to 195mb/s on the outrer regions. but the best part is, that these drive are available with up to 600gb capacity... 8)

i bet you come with the argument of the 15k.7 beeing a 3,5" drive - than take for instance its little cousin the savvio 15k.2. this is a 2,5" drive coming in at 120mb/s in the inner regions of the platters and tops out at 160mb/s on the outer regions.
Breit is offline  
Crunching for Team TPU
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 14, 2009, 09:32 AM   #23
rake
25 Posts
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 61 (0.04/day)
Thanks: 3
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts

System Specs

Sequential read/write speeds are only one part of the performance picture. Don't forget about seek times. Anyway.. how is SAS drive speeds relevant? This topic is about SSD using SATA interface and the comparison is therefor obviously with other disks that used the same interface.
rake is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 14, 2009, 02:15 PM   #24
Mussels
Doctor Moderator
 
Mussels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Bendigo, Australia (NOT THE USA)
Posts: 34,550 (10.97/day)
Thanks: 3,699
Thanked 8,689 Times in 6,389 Posts

System Specs

server based SAS drives have absolutely zero to do with this.
This is about SATA II based drives for retail PC's - you're clutching for straws now.
Mussels is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 15, 2009, 03:50 AM   #25
Breit
75 Posts
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Jena, Germany
Posts: 140 (0.04/day)
Thanks: 6
Thanked 28 Times in 15 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to Breit Send a message via MSN to Breit

System Specs

you said 'mechanical hard drives' not 'mechanical hard drives with sata-2 interface, that fit into a laptop'... 8) the way you said it is simply wrong!

so all i'm saying is that if you search for a hard drive for your os on a desktop computer, the sas interface indeed is an option, even price/performance wise considering the prices of the faster ssds around. but even for laptops there are mechanical drives that beat your proclaimed 75mb/s minimum dtr...

@rake: sure sequential read/write speeds are only part of the picture, but this is all the information we have for the for the ssd from the beginning of this thread, right?
Breit is offline  
Crunching for Team TPU
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
OCZ Technology Introduces the Agility Series 2.5-inch Solid State Drives malware News 18 Jun 10, 2009 10:41 PM
OCZ Technology Announces Vertex EX 2.5-inch SLC-based Solid-State Drives malware News 16 Apr 25, 2009 12:59 AM
OCZ Technology Introduces MiniPCI–Express Solid State Drives malware News 12 Apr 20, 2009 08:14 AM
OCZ Unveils Enhanced 2.5-inch Core V2 Solid State Drives malware News 9 Aug 16, 2008 06:54 AM
OCZ Announces Core Series 2.5-inch SATA II Solid State Drives malware News 10 Jul 2, 2008 12:58 PM


All times are GMT. The time now is 08:44 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
no new posts