*** F@H Tech Assistance Thread *** - Page 5

thebluebumblebee · Aug 27, 2009, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mike047

Anyone have any of these 9800GT folding;

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150424

What is a good clock on the shader?

I am replacing the 9600GSO cards that I have running.

Now they're $71 with free shipping!

mike047 · Aug 27, 2009, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by thebluebumblebee

Now they're $71 with free shipping!

They are good solid cards, I have had no problems with the three I am running. A little warm but no bad work so I am happy.

[I.R.A]_FBi · Aug 28, 2009, 11:55 PM

how do i get my 4830 to give me more than 1300 ppd?

hat · Aug 29, 2009, 12:00 AM

Hmm... I was playing FF8 on my PS2 with my 9600GSO folding. I switched over to HDMI real quick to check on the percentage and there was no signal. I wiggled the cable around on the back of the TV and video card, still no signal. I hit the reset button on my PC and I got video. Odd... the card has been completely stable other than this.

mx500torid · Aug 29, 2009, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [I.R.A]_FBi

how do i get my 4830 to give me more than 1300 ppd?

My 4850 gives me anywhere from 1300 to 2000 so i feel your pain. I seen some say they get 3000 to 4000 with a 4850 but I dont see it.

MoonPig · Aug 29, 2009, 07:15 PM

Yey, good news, i'll be getting back into folding next week!

Need some help first, i was told the CMD version of F@H gave better PPD, which one is it on the site?

BUCK NASTY · Aug 30, 2009, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoonPig

Yey, good news, i'll be getting back into folding next week!

Need some help first, i was told the CMD version of F@H gave better PPD, which one is it on the site?

Here ya go...

GPU2 Vista Console Client

MoonPig · Aug 30, 2009, 10:04 AM

Also, correct me when i go wrong.

8800GT has the same core as the 8800GTX, the 9800GTX+ is a revamped 8800GTX?

If so, could i use a 9800GTX+ in slot one (for games etc.) and two 8800GT's in slot 2 and 3 for JUST folding?

If not, whats the best setup i can do with one powerful card in slot 1, and two cards in slot 2 and 3. (2 needs to be Singleslot, 3 can be quad slot... lol)

Thanks

BUCK NASTY · Aug 30, 2009, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoonPig

Also, correct me when i go wrong.

8800GT has the same core as the 8800GTX, the 9800GTX+ is a revamped 8800GTX?

If so, could i use a 9800GTX+ in slot one (for games etc.) and two 8800GT's in slot 2 and 3 for JUST folding?

If not, whats the best setup i can do with one powerful card in slot 1, and two cards in slot 2 and 3. (2 needs to be Singleslot, 3 can be quad slot... lol)

Thanks

8800GT is a G92 core(65nm process) and has 112 shaders
9800GTX+ is a G92b core(55nm process) and has 128 shaders
8800GTX is a G80 core(90nm process) and has 128 shaders

You should always combine cards of similar shader count. Different counts will handicap the larger shader card.

MoonPig · Aug 30, 2009, 12:23 PM

Handicap it ingame?

I wont be using the 9800GTX+ for folding, only the 8800GTs will fold.

hat · Aug 30, 2009, 06:10 PM

Oh so say if I got like a dedicated 8600gt to fold my 9600gso would be crippled because of it? This would be 2 seperate cards, not SLI.

BUCK NASTY · Aug 30, 2009, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoonPig

Handicap it ingame?

I wont be using the 9800GTX+ for folding, only the 8800GTs will fold.

You may see some instability of driver crashes, but it should work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hat

Oh so say if I got like a dedicated 8600gt to fold my 9600gso would be crippled because of it? This would be 2 seperate cards, not SLI.

8600 GT is 32 shaders. For what it would handicap the 9600GSO, you would be better off folding the 9600GSO alone. Less elec used and more PPD produced.

MoonPig · Aug 30, 2009, 08:55 PM

Ah ok. Thanks.

Whats the best combination. I need one powerful (ish) graphics card in slot one (can be three slots) and then i have two slots for dedicated folders.

BUCK NASTY · Aug 30, 2009, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoonPig

Ah ok. Thanks.

Whats the best combination. I need one powerful (ish) graphics card in slot one (can be three slots) and then i have two slots for dedicated folders.

That set-up sounds fine. You may get stuttering in-game with 2 GPU's folding being fed off the same CPU.

MoonPig · Aug 30, 2009, 11:46 PM

I don't think i'll end up doing that though. The ultimate plan is to play and fold with these 8800GT's. Then when the ATi 5 series pushes 4870 and 4870x2 prices down, i'll buy something for my gaming rig and put the 8800GT's in a dedicated rig.

Give it a month or two :P

hat · Aug 31, 2009, 12:48 AM

I mean if I could fold on the 8600gt dedicated and use my 9600gso for gaming, and fold on that too when not in use, just like I do now, only difference would be the 8600gt would be going all the time. Having an 8600gt in my system would handicap my 9600gso??

johnspack · Aug 31, 2009, 02:20 AM

I figured out how to get the smp client running, I set it for 50% usage, it seems awful slow. What do you guys use when running the smp client?

mx500torid · Aug 31, 2009, 02:31 AM

I dont I crunch with cpu

hat · Aug 31, 2009, 03:05 AM

^^useful comment.

Yeah, SMP work units are pretty big. With my old 5200+ at 2.8GHz, it took like ~18 hours to do a work unit, and that's at 100% cpu usage.

F@H runs on low priority so you can set it to 100% and it still shouldn't bother other things.

theonedub · Aug 31, 2009, 04:08 AM

Really though its all about efficiency to me, I wanted to Fold on my E2200 but it took 24hrs/WU. Folding is just more efficient on GPUs (also why I use Nvidia over ATI). If you want your CPU to do something useful in a timely manner Crunch for TPU's WCG Team

crazy pyro · Sep 1, 2009, 07:04 PM

I need a hand with setting up SMP client on my Acer lappy.
I've gone through all the configuration stuff and given it 85% CPU usage , despite it having been running for 14 minutes it's still saying that it has made absolutely no progress with the WU, am I doing something wrong or is this lappy just incredibly slow at folding?

stanhemi · Sep 1, 2009, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnspack

I figured out how to get the smp client running, I set it for 50% usage, it seems awful slow. What do you guys use when running the smp client?

if you want to fold with your cpu used vmware.It a lot faster http://www.overclock.net/overclock-n...mp-vmware.html 6200 ppd with my q9550@4000mhz

theonedub · Sep 2, 2009, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazy pyro

I need a hand with setting up SMP client on my Acer lappy.
I've gone through all the configuration stuff and given it 85% CPU usage , despite it having been running for 14 minutes it's still saying that it has made absolutely no progress with the WU, am I doing something wrong or is this lappy just incredibly slow at folding?

Im not trying to be rude, but look at my post and Hat's post right above yours. Folding on the CPU (of this class) w/ the SMP Client takes about 24hrs per WU. Nothing is wrong CPUs and Folding just aren't a perfect couple.

crazy pyro · Sep 2, 2009, 09:06 AM

It'd been running for almost quarter of an hour and it was still saying 0 out of 25000 steps completed, it should at least have done one surely?

thebluebumblebee · Sep 2, 2009, 03:42 PM

Crazy, does task manager show that your CPU is busy? Sort processes by CPU (highest to lowest) and see what comes to the top

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Aug 28, 2009, 11:55 PM	#103
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Aug 29, 2009, 12:00 AM	#104
hat Maximum Overclocker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 12,236 (5.16/day) Thanks: 2,054 Thanked 2,039 Times in 1,549 Posts System Specs	Hmm... I was playing FF8 on my PS2 with my 9600GSO folding. I switched over to HDMI real quick to check on the percentage and there was no signal. I wiggled the cable around on the back of the TV and video card, still no signal. I hit the reset button on my PC and I got video. Odd... the card has been completely stable other than this. __________________ My Heatware “Inb4 smartphone LN2 overclocking.” -radrok

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Aug 29, 2009, 07:15 PM	#106
MoonPig Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wakefield, UK Posts: 4,085 (2.34/day) Thanks: 715 Thanked 903 Times in 621 Posts System Specs	Yey, good news, i'll be getting back into folding next week! Need some help first, i was told the CMD version of F@H gave better PPD, which one is it on the site? __________________ My DeskMod Log \| My Heatware \| My SteamID \| My For Sale \| My Want to Buy

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Aug 30, 2009, 10:04 AM	#108
MoonPig Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wakefield, UK Posts: 4,085 (2.34/day) Thanks: 715 Thanked 903 Times in 621 Posts System Specs	Also, correct me when i go wrong. 8800GT has the same core as the 8800GTX, the 9800GTX+ is a revamped 8800GTX? If so, could i use a 9800GTX+ in slot one (for games etc.) and two 8800GT's in slot 2 and 3 for JUST folding? If not, whats the best setup i can do with one powerful card in slot 1, and two cards in slot 2 and 3. (2 needs to be Singleslot, 3 can be quad slot... lol) Thanks __________________ My DeskMod Log \| My Heatware \| My SteamID \| My For Sale \| My Want to Buy

Aug 30, 2009, 12:23 PM	#110
MoonPig Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wakefield, UK Posts: 4,085 (2.34/day) Thanks: 715 Thanked 903 Times in 621 Posts System Specs	Handicap it ingame? I wont be using the 9800GTX+ for folding, only the 8800GTs will fold. __________________ My DeskMod Log \| My Heatware \| My SteamID \| My For Sale \| My Want to Buy

Aug 30, 2009, 06:10 PM	#111
hat Maximum Overclocker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 12,236 (5.16/day) Thanks: 2,054 Thanked 2,039 Times in 1,549 Posts System Specs	Oh so say if I got like a dedicated 8600gt to fold my 9600gso would be crippled because of it? This would be 2 seperate cards, not SLI. __________________ My Heatware “Inb4 smartphone LN2 overclocking.” -radrok

Aug 30, 2009, 08:55 PM	#113
MoonPig Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wakefield, UK Posts: 4,085 (2.34/day) Thanks: 715 Thanked 903 Times in 621 Posts System Specs	Ah ok. Thanks. Whats the best combination. I need one powerful (ish) graphics card in slot one (can be three slots) and then i have two slots for dedicated folders. __________________ My DeskMod Log \| My Heatware \| My SteamID \| My For Sale \| My Want to Buy

Aug 30, 2009, 11:46 PM	#115
MoonPig Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wakefield, UK Posts: 4,085 (2.34/day) Thanks: 715 Thanked 903 Times in 621 Posts System Specs	I don't think i'll end up doing that though. The ultimate plan is to play and fold with these 8800GT's. Then when the ATi 5 series pushes 4870 and 4870x2 prices down, i'll buy something for my gaming rig and put the 8800GT's in a dedicated rig. Give it a month or two :P __________________ My DeskMod Log \| My Heatware \| My SteamID \| My For Sale \| My Want to Buy

Aug 31, 2009, 12:48 AM	#116
hat Maximum Overclocker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 12,236 (5.16/day) Thanks: 2,054 Thanked 2,039 Times in 1,549 Posts System Specs	I mean if I could fold on the 8600gt dedicated and use my 9600gso for gaming, and fold on that too when not in use, just like I do now, only difference would be the 8600gt would be going all the time. Having an 8600gt in my system would handicap my 9600gso?? __________________ My Heatware “Inb4 smartphone LN2 overclocking.” -radrok

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Aug 31, 2009, 03:05 AM	#119
hat Maximum Overclocker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 12,236 (5.16/day) Thanks: 2,054 Thanked 2,039 Times in 1,549 Posts System Specs	^^useful comment. Yeah, SMP work units are pretty big. With my old 5200+ at 2.8GHz, it took like ~18 hours to do a work unit, and that's at 100% cpu usage. F@H runs on low priority so you can set it to 100% and it still shouldn't bother other things. __________________ My Heatware “Inb4 smartphone LN2 overclocking.” -radrok

Aug 31, 2009, 04:08 AM	#120
theonedub habe fidem Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Northern CA Posts: 6,599 (4.46/day) Thanks: 2,268 Thanked 3,186 Times in 1,921 Posts System Specs	Really though its all about efficiency to me, I wanted to Fold on my E2200 but it took 24hrs/WU. Folding is just more efficient on GPUs (also why I use Nvidia over ATI). If you want your CPU to do something useful in a timely manner Crunch for TPU's WCG Team __________________ My Heatware Feedback 129+ Pristine

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Sep 1, 2009, 07:04 PM	#121
crazy pyro Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Newcastle Posts: 1,304 (0.73/day) Thanks: 290 Thanked 137 Times in 121 Posts System Specs	I need a hand with setting up SMP client on my Acer lappy. I've gone through all the configuration stuff and given it 85% CPU usage , despite it having been running for 14 minutes it's still saying that it has made absolutely no progress with the WU, am I doing something wrong or is this lappy just incredibly slow at folding? __________________ Lappy: AMD athlon/ turion TK-53 2GB Crucial RAM@667 512MB Generic@667 Acer travelmate motherboard, unsure, Liteon laptop Power supply,ATI mobility Radeon, x1250,120GB HD “Testicles and birthday presents yum!” -joinmeindeath417

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Sep 2, 2009, 09:06 AM	#124
crazy pyro Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Newcastle Posts: 1,304 (0.73/day) Thanks: 290 Thanked 137 Times in 121 Posts System Specs	It'd been running for almost quarter of an hour and it was still saying 0 out of 25000 steps completed, it should at least have done one surely? __________________ Lappy: AMD athlon/ turion TK-53 2GB Crucial RAM@667 512MB Generic@667 Acer travelmate motherboard, unsure, Liteon laptop Power supply,ATI mobility Radeon, x1250,120GB HD “Testicles and birthday presents yum!” -joinmeindeath417

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