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hat · Sep 3, 2009, 08:16 PM

Yeah... rebate. I still never got my rebate that I filed in the middle of July for my 9600gso.

Beertintedgoggles · Sep 3, 2009, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hat

Yeah... rebate. I still never got my rebate that I filed in the middle of July for my 9600gso.

You should give them a call. They always 'magically' have just got them in the mail when you call and ask for the status. Additionally, they deleted my second rebate even though the rebate was good for up to two items. So I read the fine print to the rep and they made sure I even got the second rebate. So all in all I got both rebates.... only took about 4 months.

thebluebumblebee · Sep 3, 2009, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hat

Yeah... rebate. I still never got my rebate that I filed in the middle of July for my 9600gso.

The Asus ones?

newtekie1 · Sep 3, 2009, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hat

Yeah... rebate. I still never got my rebate that I filed in the middle of July for my 9600gso.

Mine was approved on Aug 5th, and they claim 8-10 weeks before I will see it, its only been 4 so I'm still waiting...

hat · Sep 3, 2009, 09:05 PM

They are mailing it via footman express?

newtekie1 · Sep 3, 2009, 09:10 PM

Approved and processed are two different things. I guarantee they won't mail it until the 8th week.

They don't mail the rebates until they have processed all of them, then mail them all of in one big shipment, and they wait until the last minute so they can make as much interest off the money before they have to give it up.

BUCK NASTY · Sep 3, 2009, 11:39 PM

Just moved my 3 strongest CPU's over to SMP. Should be good for another 8K PPD. Keep pushin boyz!!!

johnspack · Sep 3, 2009, 11:51 PM

Ug, feeling kind of intel dumb guys! I'm just aiming for 3.8, should that need more than 1.30vcore? I think I know what to set for most of the other stuff. Except maybe gtl, I have no idea if I should change the multiplier for it...

NastyHabits · Sep 4, 2009, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnspack

Ug, feeling kind of intel dumb guys! I'm just aiming for 3.8, should that need more than 1.30vcore? I think I know what to set for most of the other stuff. Except maybe gtl, I have no idea if I should change the multiplier for it...

According to Ketxxx you can safely push the vcore to 1.45 volts. I've run mine at that voltage and got 3.8 ghz with an E8400.

BUCK NASTY · Sep 4, 2009, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnspack

Ug, feeling kind of intel dumb guys! I'm just aiming for 3.8, should that need more than 1.30vcore? I think I know what to set for most of the other stuff. Except maybe gtl, I have no idea if I should change the multiplier for it...

I pushed it to 1.4v 24/7. You need those volts for stability, just watch the temps. Did you up the NB also?

johnspack · Sep 4, 2009, 12:38 AM

Hmmm, I set it for 1.32v in bios, coming up as 1.304 in cpuz. I have successfully booted up and am now running windows at 3.82ghz! I didn't get this far before. Didn't realize it needed such a boost in volts. I'll test stability now, and see if it needs even more..... and yes I upped nb and fsb termination volts too. Edit: now at 1.32v real, and I can run things like orthos without a crash right away, thankyou!
Edit2: Dayum! Now at 3870mhz@1.328v, now I'm starting to get it!!!!!

I know its not 4ghz, but I got my .5ghz increase over my athlon I was looking for! I think temps would be too high at 4ghz+

Mindweaver · Sep 4, 2009, 02:20 AM

I've been battling RAM (2x2048MB XMS2-8500) issues with my Q9550 rig that also powers my GTX285... I ran Memtest, and received 17 errors... So, I've taken out those two sticks, and put the 2x1024 XMS2 in, and have been folding, and crunching strong with out BSOD...

To cooler days!

I'm thinking about buying this set http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146789
If anyone can think of a better set please share.

johnspack · Sep 4, 2009, 02:35 AM

Did a fast stability test, dam, I think this chip will do fast 24/7! Only 15mins, but a good start:

Mindweaver · Sep 4, 2009, 02:42 AM

Yea, John you shouldn't have any problem running that E8400 @ 4.0GHz.. I have 2 running @ that speed. Below is my setup on ASUS board.. hope that helps

fsb strap to NB 333MHz
fsb freq. 445
PCIE freq. 101
Dram frequency 1069
Dram Command Rate 2n

CPU Voltage 1.4v
CPU PLL Volt 1.5v
fsb Termination Voltage 1.10v
Dram voltage 2.10

Multiplier set to 8.5

johnspack · Sep 4, 2009, 02:46 AM

You use that low of a fsb termination v? And yes I found out the hard way to strap to 333....

Mindweaver · Sep 4, 2009, 03:36 AM

yep

johnspack · Sep 4, 2009, 04:09 AM

Last time I'm going to babble about this new system, I promise! Old Athlon system with my gtx280-12kmarks in 06, new system, 17.5kmarks!

Mindweaver · Sep 4, 2009, 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnspack

Last time I'm going to babble about this new system, I promise! Old Athlon system with my gtx280-12kmarks in 06, new system, 17.5kmarks!

Nice! yea you'll enjoy that E8400 it's a beast!

hat · Sep 4, 2009, 04:28 AM

What does FSB strap do??

Mindweaver · Sep 4, 2009, 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hat

What does FSB strap do??

Changing the strap will let you run your ram at different speed than your fsb.

johnspack · Sep 4, 2009, 04:36 AM

I'm still trying to figure it all out myself, but strap is FSB strap to NB, in otherwords if you set it for 333, the fsb communcates with the nb at 333, no matter what the fsb is set at. Changes ram dividers too. Whatever I got wrong there, help me out guys? I answered too slow heheh!

hat · Sep 4, 2009, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindweaver

Changing the strap will let you run your ram at different speed than your fsb.

I thought that's what the FSB/DRAM ratio was for...

johnspack · Sep 4, 2009, 05:08 AM

Hence my confusion! Boy did I learn! Yes, these things have multiple busses or something. And you have to learn best settings for each. Best way to get to understand it, is just get an intel system. Play with the bios and be totally confused for awhile. Then make it kick azz! I'm still very green in intel, but I've got this thing rocking already! Edit: fsb/dram ratio is also affected by nb strap... heheh!

johnspack · Sep 4, 2009, 05:26 AM

HUGE thanks to Buck Nasty for helping me with this system. I am forever a folder!

Mindweaver · Sep 4, 2009, 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hat

I thought that's what the FSB/DRAM ratio was for...

You're think'n AMD... hehehe No Ratio.. just your strap. at least on these P35 and P45 boards I have.. I'm an old AMD guy myself.. hehehe

and an old Intel guy.... hehehe

Sep 3, 2009, 08:16 PM	#6176
hat Maximum Overclocker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 12,236 (5.16/day) Thanks: 2,054 Thanked 2,039 Times in 1,549 Posts System Specs	Yeah... rebate. I still never got my rebate that I filed in the middle of July for my 9600gso. __________________ My Heatware “Inb4 smartphone LN2 overclocking.” -radrok

System Name:	Starlifter // Dragonfly
Processor:	(lapped) i7 920 4GHz 1.3v // 1090T 3.6GHz 1.3v
Motherboard:	Asus Rampage III // Gigabyte GA-770T-USB3
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Sound Card:	Creative X-Fi Fatality Professional // onboard (disabled)
PSU:	Antec NeoHe 550W // Corsair CX600w
Software:	Windows 7 Home Premium x64 // Windows 7 Home Premium x64
Benchmarks:	zunn zunnzunn zunn zunn

Processor:	2500K @ 4.5GHz 1.28V
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Cooling:	Corsair A70
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PSU:	Corsair VX550/SeaSonic S12II 620
Software:	XP MCE SP3/Win 7 Home Premiun 64 Bit
Benchmarks:	Are you kidding?/3DMark11 basic P8681

Processor:	Intel Core i7 875K@4.0GHz(200x20)
Motherboard:	eVGA P55 FTW 200
Cooling:	Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme w/ Corsair SP120 High Performance Edition
Memory:	8GB Corsair DDR3-1600 7-7-7-20
Video Card:	ASUS GTX 670 4GB DirectCU II @ 1015/3600
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Sound Card:	Onboard is good enough for me
PSU:	Corsair HX850
Software:	Windows 7 x64 Professional

Sep 3, 2009, 09:05 PM	#6180
hat Maximum Overclocker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 12,236 (5.16/day) Thanks: 2,054 Thanked 2,039 Times in 1,549 Posts System Specs	They are mailing it via footman express? __________________ My Heatware “Inb4 smartphone LN2 overclocking.” -radrok

Sep 3, 2009, 09:10 PM	#6181
newtekie1 Semi-Retired Folder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 17,742 (6.49/day) Thanks: 780 Thanked 5,114 Times in 3,705 Posts System Specs	Approved and processed are two different things. I guarantee they won't mail it until the 8th week. They don't mail the rebates until they have processed all of them, then mail them all of in one big shipment, and they wait until the last minute so they can make as much interest off the money before they have to give it up. __________________ Rig1: System Specs. Rig2: A8-5600K@4.4GHz / AsRock FM2A75 Pro4 / 8GB Corsair DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 / HD7560D / Samsung DVD-Burner / 1.5TB WD Green + 3x3TB WD RED in RAID5 Rig3: Athlon X2 4200+ / M4A79 Deluxe / 4GB G.Skill Pi DDR2-800 4-4-4-12 / GT430 / Sony DVD-Burner / 500GB WD Rig4: Phenom II x6 1605T @ 3.6GHz / Asus M5A99X Evo / 8GB PNY DDR3-1600 9-9-9 / GTX470 & GTX470 / Samsung DVD-Burner / 1.5TB Seagate

Sep 3, 2009, 11:39 PM	#6182
BUCK NASTY F@H Mod & 4P Enthusiust Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tallahassee, FL. U.S.A. Posts: 4,047 (1.92/day) Thanks: 3,376 Thanked 2,907 Times in 1,474 Posts System Specs	Just moved my 3 strongest CPU's over to SMP. Should be good for another 8K PPD. Keep pushin boyz!!! __________________ “I'll finally be able to drool over 8 gpu in one rig... And get sued by my wallet for violent physical damage...” -Feanor

System Name:	Main Rig
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Motherboard:	ASUS M5A99X Evo
Cooling:	Coolermaster Hyper 212+
Memory:	8GB GSkill DDR3 1600
Video Card:	ASUS GTX460 Top DirectCU
Hard Disk:	Corsair Force 90gb SSD
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Case:	Coolermaster Centurion 590
Sound Card:	Onboard
PSU:	Antec TP750 80+
Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate 64

Sep 3, 2009, 11:51 PM	#6183
johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,724 (1.81/day) Thanks: 282 Thanked 750 Times in 516 Posts System Specs	Ug, feeling kind of intel dumb guys! I'm just aiming for 3.8, should that need more than 1.30vcore? I think I know what to set for most of the other stuff. Except maybe gtl, I have no idea if I should change the multiplier for it... __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

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Case:	Antec 1200
Sound Card:	Onboard
PSU:	Silverstone 850Watt Strider+ Modular
Software:	Win7 x64 SP1 Ultimate
Benchmarks:	Time to upgrade to 680s....

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PSU:	Corsair HX650
Software:	Windows 7 64 ibit

Sep 4, 2009, 12:38 AM	#6186
johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,724 (1.81/day) Thanks: 282 Thanked 750 Times in 516 Posts System Specs	Hmmm, I set it for 1.32v in bios, coming up as 1.304 in cpuz. I have successfully booted up and am now running windows at 3.82ghz! I didn't get this far before. Didn't realize it needed such a boost in volts. I'll test stability now, and see if it needs even more..... and yes I upped nb and fsb termination volts too. Edit: now at 1.32v real, and I can run things like orthos without a crash right away, thankyou! Edit2: Dayum! Now at 3870mhz@1.328v, now I'm starting to get it!!!!! I know its not 4ghz, but I got my .5ghz increase over my athlon I was looking for! I think temps would be too high at 4ghz+ __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260 Last edited by johnspack; Sep 4, 2009 at 01:46 AM.

Sep 4, 2009, 02:20 AM	#6187
Mindweaver Moderato®™ Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Statesville, NC Posts: 3,623 (2.42/day) Thanks: 4,313 Thanked 2,316 Times in 1,148 Posts System Specs	I've been battling RAM (2x2048MB XMS2-8500) issues with my Q9550 rig that also powers my GTX285... I ran Memtest, and received 17 errors... So, I've taken out those two sticks, and put the 2x1024 XMS2 in, and have been folding, and crunching strong with out BSOD... To cooler days! I'm thinking about buying this set http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146789 If anyone can think of a better set please share. __________________ “As long as I feel the warmth from the sun and breathe precious air…. I must ask questions to feed the Mind!” Battletag: Mindweaver#1523

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Sep 4, 2009, 02:35 AM	#6188
johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,724 (1.81/day) Thanks: 282 Thanked 750 Times in 516 Posts System Specs	Did a fast stability test, dam, I think this chip will do fast 24/7! Only 15mins, but a good start: __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

Sep 4, 2009, 02:42 AM	#6189
Mindweaver Moderato®™ Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Statesville, NC Posts: 3,623 (2.42/day) Thanks: 4,313 Thanked 2,316 Times in 1,148 Posts System Specs	Yea, John you shouldn't have any problem running that E8400 @ 4.0GHz.. I have 2 running @ that speed. Below is my setup on ASUS board.. hope that helps fsb strap to NB 333MHz fsb freq. 445 PCIE freq. 101 Dram frequency 1069 Dram Command Rate 2n CPU Voltage 1.4v CPU PLL Volt 1.5v fsb Termination Voltage 1.10v Dram voltage 2.10 Multiplier set to 8.5 __________________ “As long as I feel the warmth from the sun and breathe precious air…. I must ask questions to feed the Mind!” Battletag: Mindweaver#1523 Last edited by Mindweaver; Sep 4, 2009 at 02:43 AM. Reason: Can't spell

Sep 4, 2009, 02:46 AM	#6190
johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,724 (1.81/day) Thanks: 282 Thanked 750 Times in 516 Posts System Specs	You use that low of a fsb termination v? And yes I found out the hard way to strap to 333.... __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

Sep 4, 2009, 03:36 AM	#6191
Mindweaver Moderato®™ Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Statesville, NC Posts: 3,623 (2.42/day) Thanks: 4,313 Thanked 2,316 Times in 1,148 Posts System Specs	yep __________________ “As long as I feel the warmth from the sun and breathe precious air…. I must ask questions to feed the Mind!” Battletag: Mindweaver#1523

Sep 4, 2009, 04:09 AM	#6192
johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,724 (1.81/day) Thanks: 282 Thanked 750 Times in 516 Posts System Specs	Last time I'm going to babble about this new system, I promise! Old Athlon system with my gtx280-12kmarks in 06, new system, 17.5kmarks! __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

Sep 4, 2009, 04:28 AM	#6194
hat Maximum Overclocker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 12,236 (5.16/day) Thanks: 2,054 Thanked 2,039 Times in 1,549 Posts System Specs	What does FSB strap do?? __________________ My Heatware “Inb4 smartphone LN2 overclocking.” -radrok

Sep 4, 2009, 04:36 AM	#6196
johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,724 (1.81/day) Thanks: 282 Thanked 750 Times in 516 Posts System Specs	I'm still trying to figure it all out myself, but strap is FSB strap to NB, in otherwords if you set it for 333, the fsb communcates with the nb at 333, no matter what the fsb is set at. Changes ram dividers too. Whatever I got wrong there, help me out guys? I answered too slow heheh! __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

Sep 4, 2009, 05:08 AM	#6198
johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,724 (1.81/day) Thanks: 282 Thanked 750 Times in 516 Posts System Specs	Hence my confusion! Boy did I learn! Yes, these things have multiple busses or something. And you have to learn best settings for each. Best way to get to understand it, is just get an intel system. Play with the bios and be totally confused for awhile. Then make it kick azz! I'm still very green in intel, but I've got this thing rocking already! Edit: fsb/dram ratio is also affected by nb strap... heheh! __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

Sep 4, 2009, 05:26 AM	#6199
johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,724 (1.81/day) Thanks: 282 Thanked 750 Times in 516 Posts System Specs	HUGE thanks to Buck Nasty for helping me with this system. I am forever a folder! __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

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