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Old Sep 10, 2009, 12:40 PM   #1
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South Africa: Pigeon faster than Internet

Lol, check this out!

Broadband promised to unite the world with super-fast data delivery - but in South Africa it seems the web is still no faster than a humble pigeon.

A Durban IT company pitted an 11-month-old bird armed with a 4GB memory stick against the ADSL service from the country's biggest web firm, Telkom.

Winston the pigeon took two hours to carry the data 60 miles - in the same time the ADSL had sent 4% of the data.


source http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8248056.stm
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Lol i posted that in Gn makes me feel so happy im here in Oz.
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Silly article.

Most European ADSL services would struggle to provide 4GB in under 60 minutes.

In fact (in UK), most providers of consumer ADSL would have a cap between 2GB and 5GB per month before extra charges need to be paid.

And WHAT exactly do these Africans want to download that is 4GB large? 8 pirate movies? You mean, they want to download them because to RIP 8 movies would take MUCH LONGER than 60 minutes.

BBC journalist needs to be fired for wasting everyones time and FUD.
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And WHAT exactly do these Africans want to download that is 4GB large? 8 pirate movies? You mean, they want to download them because to RIP 8 movies would take MUCH LONGER than 60 minutes.
Africans don't download pirate movies, they make them themselves out on the seas using their phone cameras.
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Africans don't download pirate movies, they make them themselves out on the seas using their phone cameras.
ahahahahahahahahahaha niceONE !
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Silly article.

Most European ADSL services would struggle to provide 4GB in under 60 minutes.
True. it doesn't actually say however that they were trying to transmit 4gb, just that they used a 4gb stick. it is a crap article, but amusing nonetheless. should have put it in GN i suppose.
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Seriously, what do they want with 4GB of data on their old second hand windows 3.1, 8Gb HDD 386/486 charity skool computer cast-offs? Perhaps they want the bandwidth to try and multi-hack bank accounts, or to send EVEN MORE Nigeria scam emails. I say the 1st World should BAN ADSL internet access in Africa... or at least implement pay-per-email.

This (intended to be comic) rhetoric has been "reported" as racist. Apologies to the person that was offended. There was no intention to be racist in any way. Apologies for inferring that some people in Africa use second hand PCs and/or dont have the latest equipment and/or software and/or have used their PCs for unscrupulous activities and/or are using Windows and not Apple Macs and OSX when in fact they might be.*

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outside of america, very few ISP's have upload speeds great enough for a 4GB file transfer.

I'm on adsl2+ here in aus (fastest you can get, realy), and its theoretical best is 24Mb down and 1Mb up. - 100KB/s aint getting you very far with large files.

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Well thats like saying I walked across the street to my neighbors house and transferred 16GB of data in less than 3 min just by carrying my Flash Drive, of course its faster!!! Thats like ubber download speeds right there. My fiber optics hasn't even touched 10 MB loL!
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outside of america, very few ISP's have upload speeds great enough for a 4GB file transfer.

I'm on adsl2+ here in aus (fastest you can get, realy), and its theoretical best is 24Mb down and 1Mb up. - 100KB/s aint getting you very far with large files.


lemonade: umm, racist much?
Yes, America internet be great.



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look at those eastern europe upload speeds. Makes me wonder what they are uploading.
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DanTheBanjoman, yeah man, but that's the avarage speed for whole country ;// if Bulgaria is there with only avr speed from Sofia(then we'll be in top3) and i' am sure of this



p.s. because only a few the other cities outside of Sofia have similiar/good i-net
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DanTheBanjoman, yeah man, but that's the avarage speed for whole country ;// if Bulgaria is there with only avr speed from Sofia(then we'll be in top3) and i' am sure of this
Those are averages. Those high speed lines often do up to 50-100Mbit/s, if you look at those numbers they're probably pulling them that high, but it's clear that most of the country doesn't enjoy such speeds. That basically goes for all those high ranked countries, several areas with extremely high speed, rest is just average or below. Either way, America isn't exactly high speed internet country #1 as Mussels basically suggested.

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This article is stupid, because obviously everyone involved doesn't realize how ADSL works.

Your upload speed is always complete crap compared to your download speed, that is the whole idea of ADSL. You get good download speeds, but only enough upload to keep the connection moving and handle handshakes and such.

I'll give an example: A common speed in the USA is 6Mb/s Download and 512Kb/s Upload. So if someone with that connection wants to send a 4GB file, they get trasfer speeds of only 64KB/s! Do the math: A 4GB file is 4,194,304KB. So to transfer that file it would take 65,536 Seconds, or 1,092.266 Minutes, or 18 Hours! In 1 hours, you would transfer about 5.5% of the 4GB file. And that is on a US connection, assuming perfect conditions and 100% throughput(which never happens). And there are slower connections than that, most ADSL users in the US use lower plans than that. Usually in the 256Kb/s upload range.

ADSL is not meant for sending files back and forth, it is mean for primarily downloading. If they wanted to send files back and forth across an internet connect, you have to pay for an internet connection that offers better upload rates. That is why ADSL@6Mb/512Kb is cheap, while a T1@1.5Mb/1.5Mb is a lot more expensive...
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This article is stupid, because obviously everyone involved doesn't realize how ADSL works.

Your upload speed is always complete crap compared to your download speed, that is the whole idea of ADSL. You get good download speeds, but only enough upload to keep the connection moving and handle handshakes and such.

I'll give an example: A common speed in the USA is 6Mb/s Download and 512Kb/s Upload. So if someone with that connection wants to send a 4GB file, they get trasfer speeds of only 64KB/s! Do the math: A 4GB file is 4,194,304KB. So to transfer that file it would take 65,536 Seconds, or 1,092.266 Minutes, or 18 Hours! In 1 hours, you would transfer about 5.5% of the 4GB file. And that is on a US connection, assuming perfect conditions and 100% throughput(which never happens). And there are slower connections than that, most ADSL users in the US use lower plans than that. Usually in the 256Kb/s upload range.

ADSL is not meant for sending files back and forth, it is mean for primarily downloading. If they wanted to send files back and forth across an internet connect, you have to pay for an internet connection that offers better upload rates. That is why ADSL@6Mb/512Kb is cheap, while a T1@1.5Mb/1.5Mb is a lot more expensive...
yup yup, more detailed version of what i said.

they could DOWNLOAD 4GB fairly fast, but upload is another thing.
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Those are averages. Those high speed lines often do up to 50-100Mbit/s, if you look at those numbers they're probably pulling them that high, but it's clear that most of the country doesn't enjoy such speeds. That basically goes for all those high ranked countries, several areas with extremely high speed, rest is just average or below. Either way, America isn't exactly high speed internet country #1 as Mussels basically suggested.



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yes americas speed isn't the best but for now there aren't many isps that cap you even now, every month I download like, I don't know 100GB-200GB with no prob with my crap ISP

mainly because I store my HDD's online and always wipe my pc and need to redownload all that stuff
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I meant average as in medicore as in slow compared to the download. XD I knew South Korea had the highest download speeds by far but they have an achilles heel too which is kinda silly for a state-wide system.

I'm lucky I can get ADSL at all.
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look at those eastern europe upload speeds. Makes me wonder what they are uploading.
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how else do you think they play starcraft 24/7?
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Laggy, like I used to do many years ago
i saw a guy at respawn (450 person lan) a few weeks back, and someone was playing starcraft... and lagging.

i have no idea what the hell he was doing at a lan with a PC that old.
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wow. This is retarded. So, im faster than both of them! ill pack 40 2TB hard drives in my backpack, hike the distance in a day or so, while the bird could only carry its thumb drives back and forth, getting about 300GB in thumb drives while I can get 80TB! wow, I'm fast!
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