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Old Sep 25, 2009, 05:58 PM   #76
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that is a long graphics card.......
Really long holy cr*p!!!
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Old Sep 25, 2009, 06:20 PM   #77
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I still plan on waiting for the 5890 and whatever’s comparable on the Nvidia side. Hopefully whichever card will be, will end up around $350-$399 USD.
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Old Sep 25, 2009, 06:38 PM   #78
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Apparently AMD's target SEP price is still $500:

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Considering a 5870 is $379 and a 5850 is $299, I'm not holding my breath.

This is going to be the fastest thing around, but unless I'm really wrong (and I hope I am), it'll cost like $650. :P
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Old Sep 25, 2009, 06:48 PM   #79
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People complaining about the length, just need to get a bigger case.
If you can afford this card, You can afford a bigger case.
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sweet.

VC length = e-peen length

Not even sure if that small fan on the end will reach ample pressure on the GPU on the far end.. plus all that vents further reducing air pressure.. hsf design fail
How can you judge a fail without even seeing the product in action ? AMD have never released a Fail and I doubt they would be starting now.
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Old Sep 25, 2009, 08:53 PM   #81
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Not getting it, once cards stop fitting in my case im done.
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Old Sep 25, 2009, 09:03 PM   #82
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I think the pricing on newegg by the time the X2 comes out will be:
5850 - $270
5870 - $360
5870 2 GB - $405
5850 X2 - $445
5870 X2 - $535
5870 X2 4 GB - $595

Basing this on the differences between between cards on newegg in previous gens and the difference between cards of varying memory... and the differences between suggested retail and actual retail... and the rate at which new cards lower in initial price.
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WOW! That is one long-ass Graphics card and at $1200....I think I'll wait a bit.

But would definitely like to see benchmarks on this baby in comparison to Nvidia
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Old Sep 25, 2009, 09:55 PM   #84
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aww i was hoping for 2 GPUs on one die.
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Will more than fit in my Mid tower (It would fit even if I put my HDD cage back in).
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Old Sep 25, 2009, 10:31 PM   #86
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For the most part what things cost in euros they also cost in dollars, so 677E would be $677, not $1000.
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People complaining about the length, just need to get a bigger case.
If you can afford this card, You can afford a bigger case.


You're crazy, man! I'm still running a Stacker 830, and I'm sure one of these cards will have a hard time fitting, considering the 5870 is a little longer than a 4870x2 . . .

No worries, though - I've had a case in the works for a couple of months now


These things are monstrous, though - I wonder how when they're going to have to start packing PCB support stands with these cards
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You're crazy, man! I'm still running a Stacker 830, and I'm sure one of these cards will have a hard time fitting, considering the 5870 is a little longer than a 4870x2 . . .

No worries, though - I've had a case in the works for a couple of months now


These things are monstrous, though - I wonder how when they're going to have to start packing PCB support stands with these cards
I have a HAF 922 which is a midtower and a 4870x2 and I literally have like 4" extra beyond the 4870x2. Now fitting the 5870x2 into my CM690, that might prove difficult.
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677 euro = $1000 USD

I wonder how low they will get after nvidia releases the gt300 series
First off, it doesn't work that way. It's more like 677 Euro = $677 USD. Also, that's including taxes... Oh, and the card hasn't even been released yet. Everyone done whining yet?
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Lol I did the measurements and this thing JUST fits inside my case... You'd think it would break under its own weight. 5870x2 HERE I COME!!!
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I have had a few different cases, and i can say is that once you get a full tower you would never want to go back to those tiny little 'gaming boxes'. The last 4 cases i had i know the 5870x2 would fit in with ease. Maybe on my last case i would of had to move the hard drive tray, but it was removable and could be adjusted. My case atm is a coolermaster cosmos and it would take this card and also a brother with ease, tbh if your case is to small get a new case stop whining. Most quality full tower cases should be able to still hold this beast.

The reason i like full tower cases is so i have more room in the case, better airflow and large/more components ( cpu heatsink, fans, large gfx cards, crossfire,SLI and better overclock )

I guess im an enthusiast so i go with the case to go with being an enthusiast.

Although it may fit in my case, the price tag if correct would weigh it down too much for me, i just cant bring my self to pay that much for one component.
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I'm sure a 5870x2 will fit in my case, even with the massive amounts of other components I have installed . . . things are just getting tight as it is, what with all the cables, HDDs and everything else.

Big reason why I'm working on another case - a massive cube instead of a tower. Height will be a little shorter than my current CMS 830, but overall width will be equivalent to my current case depth . . . in essence, think of two towers that have been merged side-to-side. Opens up a lot of space to re-arrange and better organize everything.


Anyhow - I wasn't originally planning on moving to the HD5000 series just yet, but the performance so far, and the DX11 is very nice - two 5870x2s paired together should be more than capable of holding me over for years to come . . . my current pair of 70x2s will be moved to a secondary rig . . .
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I can see two of these on my rig when their up for sale!
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Grab an ATCS840 or an HAF932 and you won't have any issues with the size of either the 5870 or the 5870x2.
As you can see there is plenty of room in an ATCS840 with an 5870 installed.
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People complaining about the length, just need to get a bigger case.
If you can afford this card, You can afford a bigger case.
Well, the problem about lenght is indeed a serious issue.
I don't give a damn about the 5870X2, but the 5870 is undisputablly too long.
Btw, the get a bigger case logic only works, because you are living in the USA where producing waste is a right by law almost.
The flat I am living in Hong Kong costed $8000HK thats $1000 per square feet, now getting a new case if fine, but getting a new flat is not fine.

Most importantly, these cards are well over the limit of CEB boards (dual cpu boards) which is 10.5", ATi can't force their customers to get new cases everytime they release a new card.
At lease, nV manage to keep their cards at 10.5" at all times.
Long ass card is long ass, no matter you an fit it or not.
People complain when there is a need to complain.
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remember that this card isn't much better than gtx295, with 1 year min. in the market and "old" technology.
i learn something with ati, never belive what they benchs shows before launch the product. happens with 2*** series, 3*** series and phenom 1 amd processors
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remember that this card isn't much better than gtx295, with 1 year min. in the market and "old" technology.
i learn something with ati, never belive what they benchs shows before launch the product. happens with 2*** series, 3*** series and phenom 1 amd processors
You never believe any companies own benches, becuase they are always bias.
This is just ow business goes.
Same goes for Intel and nVidia, they always says their products are the best.
Who in their right mind will say their products sucks so plz don't but them?
There is no point is poking at AMD's prior products, they are history.
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yup! or maybe a dremel eh?
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Well, the problem about lenght is indeed a serious issue.
I don't give a damn about the 5870X2, but the 5870 is undisputablly too long.
Btw, the get a bigger case logic only works, because you are living in the USA where producing waste is a right by law almost.
The flat I am living in Hong Kong costed $8000HK thats $1000 per square feet, now getting a new case if fine, but getting a new fat is not fine.

Most importantly, these cards are well over the limit of CEB boards (dual cpu boards) which is 10.5", ATi can't force their customers to get new cases everytime they release a new card.
At lease, nV manage to keep their cards at 10.5" at all times.
Long ass card is long ass, no matter you an fit it or not.
People complain when there is a need to complain.
Well in fact there is no need to complain. If you think there is such a problem with the length then dont buy it. Simple as that.
Nobody is forcing you to buy the card OR upgrade your case.
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