*** F@H Tech Assistance Thread ***

[bogmali]

RE: post #241.......I still cannot figure out what is making the other two cards not connect Worst case I'll install Win7 on that machine and reload everything

[hertz9753]

Originally Posted by bogmali

RE: post #241.......I still cannot figure out what is making the other two cards not connect Worst case I'll install Win7 on that machine and reload everything

Have you tried unplugging your modem/routers.

[hertz9753]

bogmali, what have you tried so far?

[bogmali]

Currently switching OSes from Vista Ultimate to 7 Ultimate RTM, hopefully that will fix the connection.

[Crazybc]

I,ve been getting tons of this the last few days and I,m wondering if anyone else is because its brought down my ppd by a few thousand per day and its kinda disappointing to see this after every work unit I"m also getting this occasionally on the GPU one but not nearly as often.


[15:03:24] - Attempt #8 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[15:14:12] + Attempting to get work packet

what a waste of a good hour for every wu I run .. that seems to be the avergae I,m loosing per work unit as it tries to get another work unit usually 8 or 9 times before i get oneI,m always connected to the internet and this just started this week. I,m on high speed so dont get this one bit.

[thebluebumblebee]

Originally Posted by bogmali

RE: post #241.......I still cannot figure out what is making the other two cards not connect Worst case I'll install Win7 on that machine and reload everything

Did you try shutting down those clients and restarting them? That works sometimes. Often there is nothing that we can do. It's a problem at the servers and is very frustrating. There is a forum at Stanford that lists the servers they're having problems with. I wish Folding had the ability to download more than one WU at a time so that if there's a problem connecting, the client could start working on the next WU. I find it interesting that the client has "queues" but never uses them.

[El Fiendo]

The idea behind the shut the client down method is that because it doesn't have a work unit, it will immediately try and get one. Usually when this happens, you get lucky and get a work unit assigned from a different, working server.

Question, the restriction behind mixing NVIDIA folding cards is shaders, correct? I can't mix two 9600 GSO (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130356) with two EVGA 9800GX2 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130343) and expect all 4 cards to run at 100% capacity, yes?

Just checking, I never had to worry too much about mixing models and thus never learned the restrictions fully.

[bogmali]

Tried numerous times shutting the client down and starting it back up and the same thing was happening. I even reset the whole folders from scratch and it was still doing it

It's all fixed now Fresh install of Win7 RTM solved the problem

[thebluebumblebee]

Bog, you can always check here to see if others are having similar problems. If not, a post there may alert them to a problem.
Otherwise: "Mama told me there'd be days like this, days like this my mama said..."
Worse than a GPU client being unable to upload is like when my SMP client gets done and it is unable to upload and the time runs out after working on it for 2+ days.

[El Fiendo]

Originally Posted by El Fiendo

Question, the restriction behind mixing NVIDIA folding cards is shaders, correct? I can't mix two 9600 GSO (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130356) with two EVGA 9800GX2 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130343) and expect all 4 cards to run at 100% capacity, yes?

Just checking, I never had to worry too much about mixing models and thus never learned the restrictions fully.

Folding Forum Link

These guys say its now possible, does anyone else here have any experience in getting mismatched shader cards working at full output on one rig?

[thebluebumblebee]

No, but I'm looking forward to the full report from you. Those guys are mixing VERY different cards. You're looking to mix G92's with different shader counts. Sounds like a breeze. Hey, I'm far enough away that I don't have to worry about you coming over and me, I think.

[El Fiendo]

I really need to get a blindfold is all. I saw a couple of 9800GX2s pop up for sale and I only have 2 of my four 9600GSOs. Of course my mind just starts thinking if I could do it.

To do it, I'd need to drop the 850w PSU (TX850) that I have currently set to be used in my AMD rig due to lack of connectors (I hate adapter cables). Oh, new question. Will an Ultra X3 850 run 2x9600 GSOs, 2x9800GX2s, 1xMSI 790FX-GD70, 1xPhenom II AM3 and a mobo with DDr3? Nothing other than an HDD and aftermarket cooling. Oh and mild to medium overclocking. Its got all the right connectors needed, but it seems a little light.

[mike047]

Originally Posted by El Fiendo

I really need to get a blindfold is all. I saw a couple of 9800GX2s pop up for sale and I only have 2 of my four 9600GSOs. Of course my mind just starts thinking if I could do it.

To do it, I'd need to drop the 850w PSU (TX850) that I have currently set to be used in my AMD rig due to lack of connectors (I hate adapter cables). Oh, new question. Will an Ultra X3 850 run 2x9600 GSOs, 2x9800GX2s, 1xMSI 790FX-GD70, 1xPhenom II AM3 and a mobo with DDr3? Nothing other than an HDD and aftermarket cooling. Oh and mild to medium overclocking. Its got all the right connectors needed, but it seems a little light.

I would say yes, is it a single 12v rail??

[El Fiendo]

You know I'm searching my ass off and I honestly can't find the info, reviews, or any NCIX / Newegg type listings that include user commentary. Frustrating.

Its a Ultra X3 850w Modular power supply. That's all i know so far.

[hertz9753]

Originally Posted by El Fiendo

You know I'm searching my ass off and I honestly can't find the info, reviews, or any NCIX / Newegg type listings that include user commentary. Frustrating.

Its a Ultra X3 850w Modular power supply. That's all i know so far.

It's a 55A single rail. Check Tiger Direct.

[El Fiendo]

Whoop, thanks Hertz. Not sure how but I missed that. I guess my leet Data Search skills are pretty unleet. I better stay out of Shadowrun until I fix that up a bit.

So, recap.

55A Single rail, will it blend:

2x9600 GSOs
2x9800GX2s
1xMSI 790FX-GD70
1xPhenom II AM3
DDR3
HDD
Aftermarket cooling
Mild to medium overclocking

[mike047]

Originally Posted by El Fiendo

Whoop, thanks Hertz. Not sure how but I missed that. I guess my leet Data Search skills are pretty unleet. I better stay out of Shadowrun until I fix that up a bit.

So, recap.

55A Single rail, will it blend:

2x9600 GSOs
2x9800GX2s
1xMSI 790FX-GD70
1xPhenom II AM3
DDR3
HDD
Aftermarket cooling
Mild to medium overclocking

yes

[Soylent Joe]

Ok, well, the 9600GSO is still being a butthead about folding. I put in my 3rd system (Phenom X3, 4GB 800, 320GB, integrated 8200 chipset). Right off that bat, I had a hard time getting it to work. The monitor was plugged into the card, so I know it works. It was still showing the 8200 as a "9200" which is really weird. I uninstalled the 8200 and disabled it, then it wasn't recognizing either. All along I was able to get both the 9600 and the 8200 (9200) in GPU-z. After a while, I got the drivers back and it was working. I ran the CS:S stress test and got a really nice score, so the card is working and good for gaming. Then, I tried getting F@h. The client would never run stable. It would log in as me, start working, slow down, stop, log out, I'd get a black window, and it's always show 0/1000 on the icon at the bottom even when it said 80/1000 in the client. I untinstalled it, reinstalled it, F@H would always do that same thing.

[thebluebumblebee]

Did you disable the integrated video in BIOS?

[Soylent Joe]

Originally Posted by thebluebumblebee

Did you disable the integrated video in BIOS?

Actually no, but as I said, the card is working fine, I'm just having a time with folding. I'll go do that now though.

[Soylent Joe]

I looked through the BIOS. There were seriously 2 options pertaining to the video, and both were where they needed to be. I saw no option to disable the 8200 or anything. GPU-z is still showing the "9200" along with the 9600GSO.

[thebluebumblebee]

Originally Posted by Soylent Joe

I looked through the BIOS. There were seriously 2 options pertaining to the video, and both were where they needed to be. I saw no option to disable the 8200 or anything. GPU-z is still showing the "9200" along with the 9600GSO.

I'm just guessing here, but maybe you need to use the gpu0/gpu1 switch shown here http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpo...04&postcount=8

[Soylent Joe]

Originally Posted by thebluebumblebee

I'm just guessing here, but maybe you need to use the gpu0/gpu1 switch shown here http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpo...04&postcount=8

I don't think that's the problem. When it does decide to work (it'll go for maybe 15 sec.) it says "9600GSO" where it shows the model of the card that's folding.

I got a few screenshots, uploading.

[[Ion]]

Originally Posted by El Fiendo

Whoop, thanks Hertz. Not sure how but I missed that. I guess my leet Data Search skills are pretty unleet. I better stay out of Shadowrun until I fix that up a bit.

So, recap.

55A Single rail, will it blend:

2x9600 GSOs
2x9800GX2s
1xMSI 790FX-GD70
1xPhenom II AM3
DDR3
HDD
Aftermarket cooling
Mild to medium overclocking

I'm going to have to disagree with mike, I think you will want more power:
GX2s, 180w each
GSOs, 75w each
CPU, 100w
RAM, HDD, Mobo: 50w
OCing: maybe another 50w
Total: 610w

[hertz9753]

Originally Posted by Soylent Joe

I don't think that's the problem. When it does decide to work (it'll go for maybe 15 sec.) it says "9600GSO" where it shows the model of the card that's folding.

What kind of motherboard?