Need help with building a new computer

[Orr4more]

Hey guys, im planning to buy new computer soon.
I think that i will go for this build and im intersted in your opnion:

AMD Phenom II 720BE
Gigabyte MA770 REV2(possiblity to open 4th core)
Connect3d HD4870
OCZ 4GB RAM 800mhz
Seagate 500GB
CM 690/CM Gladiator(im not sure yet)
HEC 550W TE-WX

what do you think?
I will use this computer mainly for gaming, i will play games such as: NFS, GTA IV, GRID, COD4/5, UT3, Mirros edge etc.
Any suggestion?should i save more money and go for Phenom II 945 or core I5?
Im playing on 1440X900(19` wide)

*I`m sorry if i have spelling mistakes or something, thats because im from israel and i registered to this forum to consult on my new computer build..

[Mussels]

all of it looks fine, except the PSU.

grab a reputable brand like OCZ, antec, corsair or seasonic.
the PSU is one area you do NOT want to skimp out on, especially with a relatively power hungry card like a 4870.

A good quality 500W unit will do you fine - cheap/no name PSU's cant guarantee the same.

[Orr4more]

I read somewhere that this is a quite good PSU compare to the price, what about HEC Win+550W?
Or FSP Epsilon 500W/Seasonic 500ET?

btw, maybe i can get phenom ii 945, if so, should i go for better PSU that the options that i give in this post?

[Mussels]

seasonic is the best there, FSP next.

HEC is a low end PSU brand, many people who post good comments about PSU's have very low end PC's, or would blame other hardware "my PC turns on with a cheap video card but not my new expensive one, my new video card is dead" - often means "my PSU cant handle the bigger card", yet you see comments like that all the time.


i'm not too sure on the phenom II line and their differences (intel guy here).

[BraveSoul]

make sure PSU has active PFC, and good reviews like 5eggs
considering your budget, and the fact that you will use it mainly for gaming, i suggest you save on cpu by going with Athlon X4(100$) and invest that saved money into ATI 5850 , i bet you would get a much better gaming performance with this setup then with Ati 4870 and core i5.

[JrRacinFan]

How much for the HEC Win 550?

Regarding the 1440x900 comment; Are you going to be moving to a new display anytime in the near future?

Build looks nice IMO, altho you will definitely want to look at a new psu. If you give me a budget for the psu I can look up a couple good ones for you.

[LittleLizard]

for the psu, get seasonic. Best of the best.

As for the case i would go for the CM690. Is better than the gladiator and bigger

[[Ion]]

Originally Posted by Orr4more

Hey guys, im planning to buy new computer soon.
I think that i will go for this build and im intersted in your opnion:

AMD Phenom II 720BE
Gigabyte MA770 REV2(possiblity to open 4th core)
Connect3d HD4870
OCZ 4GB RAM 800mhz
Seagate 500GB
CM 690/CM Gladiator(im not sure yet)
HEC 550W TE-WX

what do you think?
I will use this computer mainly for gaming, i will play games such as: NFS, GTA IV, GRID, COD4/5, UT3, Mirros edge etc.
Any suggestion?should i save more money and go for Phenom II 945 or core I5?
Im playing on 1440X900(19` wide)

*I`m sorry if i have spelling mistakes or something, thats because im from israel and i registered to this forum to consult on my new computer build..

Looks pretty good for the most part, you will want a better PSU such as a Corsair VX550 or better, OCZ ModXStream 500w+, OCZ StealthXStream 600w+, or a Seasonic that is 500W or greater. Antec Earthwatts PSUs are also great, anything above 500w would be good. I'm going to have to suggest that you don't get the CM690, I had one and the airflow wasn't too great, the Centurion 590 looks better IMO, and has better airflow. And it's cheaper (at least here in the States). Also, I've always liked Western Digital drives, I've had bad luck with Seagate in the past so I would stay away from them.

Originally Posted by Mussels

all of it looks fine, except the PSU.

grab a reputable brand like OCZ, antec, corsair or seasonic.
the PSU is one area you do NOT want to skimp out on, especially with a relatively power hungry card like a 4870.

A good quality 500W unit will do you fine - cheap/no name PSU's cant guarantee the same.

Exactly. Never get a cheap PSU, it's a bad idea in the long run

Originally Posted by Orr4more

I read somewhere that this is a quite good PSU compare to the price, what about HEC Win+550W?
Or FSP Epsilon 500W/Seasonic 500ET?

btw, maybe i can get phenom ii 945, if so, should i go for better PSU that the options that i give in this post?

A Phenom II X4 945 is really only going to be useful for things like video encoding, in games the extra core won't help much if at all.

Originally Posted by BraveSoul

make sure PSU has active PFC, and good reviews like 5eggs
considering your budget, and the fact that you will use it mainly for gaming, i suggest you save on cpu by going with Athlon X4(100$) and invest that saved money into ATI 5850 , i bet you would get a much better gaming performance with this setup then with Ati 4870 and core i5.

Just because it has 5 eggs doesn't mean that it is good, my friend picked up an Apevia 500w model for $16 because it had 5 eggs. Just because it has 5 egg reviews doesn't mean it's good, I would rather have a 400w Corsair (high quality) than a 600w Apevia/E-Power/PowerMax any day. And he's still using it to power an overclocked quad and an 8800GT

[BraveSoul]

i agree,, good brand psu is important,, 5 eggs just means that most ppl r happy with the product

[JrRacinFan]

Originally Posted by [Ion]

Looks pretty good for the most part, you will want a better PSU such as a Corsair VX550 or better, OCZ ModXStream 500w+, OCZ StealthXStream 600w+, or a Seasonic that is 500W or greater. Antec Earthwatts PSUs are also great, anything above 500w would be good. I'm going to have to suggest that you don't get the CM690, I had one and the airflow wasn't too great, the Centurion 590 looks better IMO, and has better airflow. And it's cheaper (at least here in the States). Also, I've always liked Western Digital drives, I've had bad luck with Seagate in the past so I would stay away from them.

I've been suggesting these power supplies.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817342016

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817176004

[TheLaughingMan]

Originally Posted by [Ion]

Just because it has 5 eggs doesn't mean that it is good, my friend picked up an Apevia 500w model for $16 because it had 5 eggs. Just because it has 5 egg reviews doesn't mean it's good, I would rather have a 400w Corsair (high quality) than a 600w Apevia/E-Power/PowerMax any day. And he's still using it to power an overclocked quad and an 8800GT

Wait, would that not mean the PSU is still working and doing its job? I mean, I completely agree and would never buy or recommend Apevia for anything to anyone.

Since the only 2 major concerns have been addressed, stick with the 720BE for gaming and spend the extra money on a new game.

[Mussels]

Originally Posted by TheLaughingMan

Wait, would that not mean the PSU is still working and doing its job? I mean, I completely agree and would never buy or recommend Apevia for anything to anyone.

Since the only 2 major concerns have been addressed, stick with the 720BE for gaming and spend the extra money on a new game.

people will give it 5 stars if they put it in the PC and it works after 2 days - regardless of it blowing up the PC on day 3

[Orr4more]

Ok guys i have some news..!
I can get SeaSonic 550HT(seasonic 550w), is that good enough?
maybe i can get even phenom II 945 so i need to know if the seasonic 550w will be able to run Phenom II 945+HD4870 with no problems..?

[JrRacinFan]

I only see issues if you do heavy overclocking. How much is the psu?

[Orr4more]

How much what? how much is it cost or how much watts is it? or what? sorry i just didnt understand..
Im living in israel so the prices are differrent but it is the strongest PSU that i can get for his price in israel..it is the same price as the corsair 450VX, even cheaper..
and it comes with 550W as i said..

And im not gonna to do heavy OC, if i will do OC it will be till 3.5GHZ max

[JrRacinFan]

Good deal then. You will be ok

Although you may need an adapter for the video card, like this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812198016

[TheLaughingMan]

Originally Posted by Mussels

people will give it 5 stars if they put it in the PC and it works after 2 days - regardless of it blowing up the PC on day 3

I know, that is why I only read reviews by people who have 6 months and up....but I usually only by good brandnames for my PSU.

On a side note for US customers, I will stand behind the new breed of Rosewill PSU's.