Easy WCG_config - Page 5

Chicken Patty · Oct 27, 2009, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by stanhemi

I forgot to say that the fluctuations are larger since I install boinc x64 sorry

well I wouldn't think that would have much to do, if anything you'll complete work quicker. One thing though, CC file keeps your rig submitting the work right away when done, but if the validation process takes longer and is not consistent over on the WCG side, the fluctuation will still happen, correct?

FordGT90Concept · Oct 27, 2009, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by stanhemi

work buffer is at 2 days now.thanks I'll be watching my ppd for the next days

http://img.techpowerup.org/091027/Capture777.jpg

The reason why I said 2 days is because some work units have as little as a five day time out. I doubt it will correct any point fluctuations.

x86/x64 shouldn't make any difference. It only really allows the manager to access more memory but it never really uses much in the first place. It also doens't run emulated (again, less than 0.1% difference).

[Ion] · Oct 27, 2009, 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicken Patty

well I wouldn't think that would have much to do, if anything you'll complete work quicker. One thing though, CC file keeps your rig submitting the work right away when done, but if the validation process takes longer and is not consistent over on the WCG side, the fluctuation will still happen, correct?

Yep, because whereas my computer turns in all WUs within 36 hours, the other one the WU is assigned to usually takes a couple days

One thing I've noticed since I've switched to x64 is the estimated time per wu is very wrong. With x32 XP, even after I just installed WCG, it had a pretty good idea how long each WU was going to take, and was usually correct within about 20 minutes. Now with Windows 7 x64, it predicts 12 hour completion times for WUs that finish in 6 hours

Chicken Patty · Oct 27, 2009, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by [Ion]

Yep, because whereas my computer turns in all WUs within 36 hours, the other one the WU is assigned to usually takes a couple days

One thing I've noticed since I've switched to x64 is the estimated time per wu is very wrong. With x32 XP, even after I just installed WCG, it had a pretty good idea how long each WU was going to take, and was usually correct within about 20 minutes. Now with Windows 7 x64, it predicts 12 hour completion times for WUs that finish in 6 hours

I notice that too! my i7 says on some projects 12hrs, but finish after i come back from taking a dump, ooops!

Mindweaver · Oct 27, 2009, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Chicken Patty

I notice that too! my i7 says on some projects 12hrs, but finish after i come back from taking a dump, ooops!

12hr dump!

FordGT90Concept · Oct 27, 2009, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Chicken Patty

well I wouldn't think that would have much to do, if anything you'll complete work quicker. One thing though, CC file keeps your rig submitting the work right away when done, but if the validation process takes longer and is not consistent over on the WCG side, the fluctuation will still happen, correct?

My server has point fluctations too and it runs 24/7 with relatively constant workloads:

Statistics Date	Total Run Time (y:d:h:m:s)	Points Generated	Results Returned
10/26/09	0:007:19:07:05	15,038	27
10/25/09	0:007:19:56:09	15,181	26
10/24/09	0:008:21:24:29	16,905	31
10/23/09	0:008:22:02:55	16,615	29
10/22/09	0:007:21:37:07	14,989	27
10/21/09	0:006:12:34:09	12,680	23
10/20/09	0:008:08:31:20	15,987	29
10/19/09	0:009:02:58:50	17,473	32
10/18/09	0:006:11:31:04	12,465	22
10/17/09	0:009:00:31:31	17,690	28
10/16/09	0:006:01:36:31	11,115	19
10/15/09	0:008:09:59:29	16,032	29
10/14/09	0:008:13:28:38	16,498	28

I think validation could have a lot to do with it. If you were the first to submit a result, it has to wait until someone else submits a result as well in order to validate which would then credit you points.

We also have to keep in mind that not all work units are equal. Some take longer than others and some are worth more than others. Like in my chart, it should be 8 hours run time every day but, all together, it maybe averages to 8.

I wouldn't be concerned about fluctuations because that is the nature of distrobuted computing.

[Ion] · Oct 27, 2009, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicken Patty

I notice that too! my i7 says on some projects 12hrs, but finish after i come back from taking a dump, ooops!

I'm glad that I'm not the only one experiencing this. I thought I must be out of my mind, because the WUs kept finishing so much faster than expected, so I took a screen shot, disabled network connections, left it running for 16 hours, and then compared results, and the estimated times were usually twice how long it actually took.

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Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

My server has point fluctations too and it runs 24/7 with relatively constant workloads:

Statistics Date	Total Run Time (y:d:h:m:s)	Points Generated	Results Returned
10/26/09	0:007:19:07:05	15,038	27
10/25/09	0:007:19:56:09	15,181	26
10/24/09	0:008:21:24:29	16,905	31
10/23/09	0:008:22:02:55	16,615	29
10/22/09	0:007:21:37:07	14,989	27
10/21/09	0:006:12:34:09	12,680	23
10/20/09	0:008:08:31:20	15,987	29
10/19/09	0:009:02:58:50	17,473	32
10/18/09	0:006:11:31:04	12,465	22
10/17/09	0:009:00:31:31	17,690	28
10/16/09	0:006:01:36:31	11,115	19
10/15/09	0:008:09:59:29	16,032	29
10/14/09	0:008:13:28:38	16,498	28

I think validation could have a lot to do with it. If you were the first to submit a result, it has to wait until someone else submits a result as well in order to validate which would then credit you points.

We also have to keep in mind that not all work units are equal. Some take longer than others and some are worth more than others. Like in my chart, it should be 8 hours run time every day but, all together, it maybe averages to 8.

I wouldn't be concerned about fluctuations because that is the nature of distrobuted computing.

Yep, that's what I was saying, my rigs are on most of the time so they almost always turn in the WU first, I have a bunch of WUs that have been pending validation for a week now...

FordGT90Concept · Oct 27, 2009, 04:44 AM

Some one has their work buffer too high.

Oh ****! It might be me. When I formatted, I'm sure my computer had two days worth of work that weren't going to get submitted.

Chicken Patty · Oct 27, 2009, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mindweaver

12hr dump!

too funny!

Quote:

Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

My server has point fluctations too and it runs 24/7 with relatively constant workloads:

Statistics Date	Total Run Time (y:d:h:m:s)	Points Generated	Results Returned
10/26/09	0:007:19:07:05	15,038	27
10/25/09	0:007:19:56:09	15,181	26
10/24/09	0:008:21:24:29	16,905	31
10/23/09	0:008:22:02:55	16,615	29
10/22/09	0:007:21:37:07	14,989	27
10/21/09	0:006:12:34:09	12,680	23
10/20/09	0:008:08:31:20	15,987	29
10/19/09	0:009:02:58:50	17,473	32
10/18/09	0:006:11:31:04	12,465	22
10/17/09	0:009:00:31:31	17,690	28
10/16/09	0:006:01:36:31	11,115	19
10/15/09	0:008:09:59:29	16,032	29
10/14/09	0:008:13:28:38	16,498	28

I think validation could have a lot to do with it. If you were the first to submit a result, it has to wait until someone else submits a result as well in order to validate which would then credit you points.

We also have to keep in mind that not all work units are equal. Some take longer than others and some are worth more than others. Like in my chart, it should be 8 hours run time every day but, all together, it maybe averages to 8.

I wouldn't be concerned about fluctuations because that is the nature of distrobuted computing.

Oh no, I'm not concerned, we just kinda got into the topic.

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Originally Posted by [Ion]

I'm glad that I'm not the only one experiencing this. I thought I must be out of my mind, because the WUs kept finishing so much faster than expected, so I took a screen shot, disabled network connections, left it running for 16 hours, and then compared results, and the estimated times were usually twice how long it actually took.

Yep, that's what I was saying, my rigs are on most of the time so they almost always turn in the WU first, I have a bunch of WUs that have been pending validation for a week now...

Yeah, don't worry you are not out of your mind, YET

Mindweaver · Oct 27, 2009, 04:58 AM

Anyone get the new update and exe to try out?

All the cool people are doing it!

Mindweaver · Oct 28, 2009, 01:45 AM

Hey guys should I take v1.2 down and just have v1.3 and Ford's exe? I see people are still getting the 1.2 and not the 1.3...

FordGT90Concept · Oct 28, 2009, 04:38 AM

Remove the old version unless it does something the new version doesn't. In which case, clarify what is different in the file name.

Edit: you already removed them, nevermind.

Mindweaver · Oct 31, 2009, 05:34 AM

Testing, testing... is this thing on? hehehe So, how does everyone like the new updates?

Paulieg · Jan 18, 2010, 03:57 AM

Thread is now stickied as recommended by FordGT

Chicken Patty · Feb 28, 2010, 07:31 PM

hey mind,

Any idea why it's not working with this rig dude?

I ran the "read config" already. Still nothing.

FordGT90Concept · Feb 28, 2010, 07:36 PM

Did you run the EXE or the ZIP?

Chicken Patty · Feb 28, 2010, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

Did you run the EXE or the ZIP?

exe... Same one I ran with my i7 and it works fine.

FordGT90Concept · Feb 28, 2010, 07:40 PM

What OS? 32-bit or 64-bit?

Chicken Patty · Feb 28, 2010, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

What OS? 32-bit or 64-bit?

64 bit. Windows 7

FordGT90Concept · Feb 28, 2010, 07:43 PM

It should have worked...

For now, (if you haven't already) try clicking on "Update" under Projects. It should send off all 100%s. If the next one completes and it sits too, let me know and we'll have to start debugging.

Chicken Patty · Feb 28, 2010, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

It should have worked...

For now, (if you haven't already) try clicking on "Update" under Projects. It should send off all 100%s. If the next one completes and it sits too, let me know and we'll have to start debugging.

I've done that already, then it sends them all but they start to rack up again.

FordGT90Concept · Feb 28, 2010, 07:48 PM

Could you save a screenshot of what WCGConfigEZ displays before it closes?

Chicken Patty · Feb 28, 2010, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

Could you save a screen shot of what WCGConfigEZ displays before it closes?

When I get the rig back up I will. I just installed some LAN Drivers and now it wants to do a CHKDSK every time it boots. Then the screen turns black and it stays there. So when I get it running I'll get that screen shot for you.

Chicken Patty · Mar 2, 2010, 03:15 AM

Ok, I'm on a new install of windows. I tried running the ZIP file this time and I get this. is this normal, don't look like it its...

Mindweaver · Mar 2, 2010, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicken Patty

Ok, I'm on a new install of windows. I tried running the ZIP file this time and I get this. is this normal, don't look like it its...
http://img.techpowerup.org/100302/Capture004.jpg

Windows 7 correct?

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Hard Disk:	Super Talent GX2 64GB SSD (OS) // Seagate 500GB (Programs) // Seagate 1TB (Storage)
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Oct 27, 2009, 04:44 AM	#108
FordGT90Concept "I go fast!1!11!1!" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: IA, USA Posts: 10,583 (6.28/day) Thanks: 1,755 Thanked 2,599 Times in 1,962 Posts System Specs	Some one has their work buffer too high. Oh **! It might be me. When I formatted, I'm sure my computer had two days worth of work that weren't going to get submitted. __________________ Golden Rule of Programming:** Never assume. try { SteamDownload(); } catch (Steamception ex) { RageQuit(); }

Oct 27, 2009, 04:58 AM	#110
Mindweaver Moderato®™ Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Statesville, NC Posts: 3,669 (2.45/day) Thanks: 4,327 Thanked 2,322 Times in 1,153 Posts System Specs	Anyone get the new update and exe to try out? All the cool people are doing it! __________________ “As long as I feel the warmth from the sun and breathe precious air…. I must ask questions to feed the Mind!” Battletag: Mindweaver#1523

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Mindweaver Moderato®™ Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Statesville, NC Posts: 3,669 (2.45/day) Thanks: 4,327 Thanked 2,322 Times in 1,153 Posts System Specs	Hey guys should I take v1.2 down and just have v1.3 and Ford's exe? I see people are still getting the 1.2 and not the 1.3... __________________ “As long as I feel the warmth from the sun and breathe precious air…. I must ask questions to feed the Mind!” Battletag: Mindweaver#1523

Oct 28, 2009, 04:38 AM	#112
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Feb 28, 2010, 07:31 PM	#115
Chicken Patty WCG Team Captain Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 23,895 (11.91/day) Thanks: 15,156 Thanked 12,315 Times in 7,779 Posts System Specs	hey mind, Any idea why it's not working with this rig dude? I ran the "read config" already. Still nothing. __________________ Help save lives, CRUNCH and/or FOLD for Team TPU and make a difference! Crunching with a 2600K, i7-950, FX-8120, Radeon 6850 (2 WU's), Radeon 7770 (4 WU's) *"AlienIsGOD - Awe!!! CP has grown from a small chicken nugget to the IMMENSE PATTY and WCG Team leader he is today"*

Feb 28, 2010, 07:36 PM	#116
FordGT90Concept "I go fast!1!11!1!" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: IA, USA Posts: 10,583 (6.28/day) Thanks: 1,755 Thanked 2,599 Times in 1,962 Posts System Specs	Did you run the EXE or the ZIP? __________________ Golden Rule of Programming: Never assume. try { SteamDownload(); } catch (Steamception ex) { RageQuit(); }

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FordGT90Concept "I go fast!1!11!1!" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: IA, USA Posts: 10,583 (6.28/day) Thanks: 1,755 Thanked 2,599 Times in 1,962 Posts System Specs	What OS? 32-bit or 64-bit? __________________ Golden Rule of Programming: Never assume. try { SteamDownload(); } catch (Steamception ex) { RageQuit(); }

Feb 28, 2010, 07:43 PM	#120
FordGT90Concept "I go fast!1!11!1!" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: IA, USA Posts: 10,583 (6.28/day) Thanks: 1,755 Thanked 2,599 Times in 1,962 Posts System Specs	It should have worked... For now, (if you haven't already) try clicking on "Update" under Projects. It should send off all 100%s. If the next one completes and it sits too, let me know and we'll have to start debugging. __________________ Golden Rule of Programming: Never assume. try { SteamDownload(); } catch (Steamception ex) { RageQuit(); }

Feb 28, 2010, 07:48 PM	#122
FordGT90Concept "I go fast!1!11!1!" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: IA, USA Posts: 10,583 (6.28/day) Thanks: 1,755 Thanked 2,599 Times in 1,962 Posts System Specs	Could you save a screenshot of what WCGConfigEZ displays before it closes? __________________ Golden Rule of Programming: Never assume. try { SteamDownload(); } catch (Steamception ex) { RageQuit(); }

Mar 2, 2010, 03:15 AM	#124
Chicken Patty WCG Team Captain Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 23,895 (11.91/day) Thanks: 15,156 Thanked 12,315 Times in 7,779 Posts System Specs	Ok, I'm on a new install of windows. I tried running the ZIP file this time and I get this. is this normal, don't look like it its... __________________ Help save lives, CRUNCH and/or FOLD for Team TPU and make a difference! Crunching with a 2600K, i7-950, FX-8120, Radeon 6850 (2 WU's), Radeon 7770 (4 WU's) *"AlienIsGOD - Awe!!! CP has grown from a small chicken nugget to the IMMENSE PATTY and WCG Team leader he is today"*

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