a little chipped part from VGA board !!!

[Beny-Nvidia]

heating while its working ?!

the card had artifact again some hours ago .. i was really angry ... so what did i do ?!

when the system was getting up i stopped the VGA fan by my Holy finger

and it started to heat up ... and the artifacts were gone ! what do u say ?! whats the heat gun ?! :d

[joinmeindeath417]

Hm wait it stopped artifacting as it got hotter?

[Beny-Nvidia]

yes it did ! but i have to try it again :d and see what happens if i heat it up when its doing good ...

by the way ! whats the heat gun ?!

[joinmeindeath417]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_gun

you can find them at hardware stores and things like that

[Solaris17]

i think were missing the part were he said he ran memtest. and giot artifacts.....first off...did u run memtest from a disk..

2nd. what are your temps? i dont even think you told us. it might not be a heat issue at all.

3rd upload a pic To TPU of your card were it wasnt repaired.

at this point idk what your even talking about? you say it doesnt look repaired...like..is it still chipped off? or does it look like a new pcb? seriously we cant really help if we dont have all the info..and telling us you have artifacts IS NOT ENOUGH

-thank you

[Beny-Nvidia]

oh im sorry if i didn give u enough information ...
i meant the card was looking fine ! dont get any meaning of it ... when i look at the lost Cap ... its replaced with new one ... but its color is darker ! and i really dont think that they did put a wrong CAP in it ... they said they replaced the cap ... Recovered the Chip (idk which one ! but i know they recovered the chip via heat)

upload what ?! an image of repaired card ?! ok ill do it ... but at this time i dont have camera ...

temps are :

GPU DIODE : 60
GPU AMBIENT : 49
GPU : 50
GPU MEMORY : 50

and in the game they're just getting up at last 3 Degree ... last time i got the artifacts just when i went into game's Menu !

[Solaris17]

ok so they replaced the cap and applied heat probably to the core or mem.

now when you say in game it goes up by 3 are you saying tha it goes up by 3 degrees from the list of temps you posted? if thats the case. your card is not overheating.

at this point id say that either..the memory on the card is bad probably because it was modded.

or if you could do me a favor and change your ram timings back to 5-5-5-15 for me. andtry games again.

[Beny-Nvidia]

Originally Posted by Solaris17

ok so they replaced the cap and applied heat probably to the core or mem.

now when you say in game it goes up by 3 are you saying tha it goes up by 3 degrees from the list of temps you posted? if thats the case. your card is not overheating.

at this point id say that either..the memory on the card is bad probably because it was modded.

or if you could do me a favor and change your ram timings back to 5-5-5-15 for me. andtry games again.

my RAM s ?! there are at 5-5-5-15 now ... default ...
and tried the game ! and Fuck !
it was ok !
what do u think ?! the problem is coming from RAMS ?! its better i try the CARD another place ... what do u say ?!
i had my system overclocked with these Profile for 2 years ... stable at all times ... in all softwares ...

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclocking: Manual
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1067
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
RAS# Precharge: 5
RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
TWR: AUTO
TRFC: AUTO
TWTR: AUTO
TRRD: AUTO
TRTP: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled

Transaction Booster: AUTO
Clock Over-Charging Mode: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.43750v (1.4240v idle / 1.4160v load)
CPU Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50v
DRAM Voltage: 2.15
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30v
North Bridge Voltage: 1.40v
North Bridge Voltage Reference: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: AUTO

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
PECI: Enabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support: Disabled (need to enable it to detect USB flash drives

here is some images ! the color is changed by me to making them looking better for reading it easily ...

the missing letters are artifacts ...

the showed CAP is the Fixed One ...

sorry for bad images ...



http://img2.tinypic.info/files/6bbnku6cv4s0gdbs9tp0.jpg



http://img2.tinypic.info/files/80ehzeumvg8gsro4h1or.jpg



http://img2.tinypic.info/files/p0nkwtnz6jhvaiiwum60.jpg

[Solaris17]

ya im banking on ram if its all working now. try memtest with the 5-5-5-15 timings and give it a go. 4-4-4-12 is very tights for that OC and at that voltage 2 years sounds like some good mileage but i think its starting to take its toll..im certain the chips are starting to get weak..thats alot for 24/7 365 for 2+ years.

[Beny-Nvidia]

But the rams Stock Timing are them ... Crucial Ballistix Tracer ... i got two one gb sticks 2 years ago ... and i got two again 6 months ago ... the new one are those one that written Crucial technology front of them in the images above ... and they has one line of lights ... but the old ones are better looking and better chips ... micron chips ...

so i think its not the problem of the timing but its maybe coming from 1066 in this timing for 4 different chips ... theyre same but they dont look like same and the CPU-z and the other info dont say that theyre exactly same ...

ill test again and say the word here ... is just the first passage enough ?! it will take 40 mins ...

oh by the way i tried the game and stopped the fan and let go the gpu tem go on 108 and it was ok .... no ARtifacts At All ...

what do i use for testing the card and taking it under heavy pressure ?! OCCT ?! can u link me the latest version of it that has the VGA test in it ...

id like to give the card to a friend of mine who has the stuff ... ill give it to him and ask him to take the card under pressure ...
but first lets see whats the problem ! for ourself ... maybe i could use my Other Systems Rams on my own (but i have to be careful ... if my brother finds out that im taking his rams for a test he would kill me )

[Solaris17]

Originally Posted by Beny-Nvidia

But the rams Stock Timing are them ... Crucial Ballistix Tracer ... i got two one gb sticks 2 years ago ... and i got two again 6 months ago ... the new one are those one that written Crucial technology front of them in the images above ... and they has one line of lights ... but the old ones are better looking and better chips ... micron chips ...

so i think its not the problem of the timing but its maybe coming from 1066 in this timing for 4 different chips ... theyre same but they dont look like same and the CPU-z and the other info dont say that theyre exactly same ...

ill test again and say the word here ... is just the first passage enough ?! it will take 40 mins ...

oh by the way i tried the game and stopped the fan and let go the gpu tem go on 108 and it was ok .... no ARtifacts At All ...

what do i use for testing the card and taking it under heavy pressure ?! OCCT ?! can u link me the latest version of it that has the VGA test in it ...

id like to give the card to a friend of mine who has the stuff ... ill give it to him and ask him to take the card under pressure ...
but first lets see whats the problem ! for ourself ... maybe i could use my Other Systems Rams on my own (but i have to be careful ... if my brother finds out that im taking his rams for a test he would kill me )

i can almost garentee you the sticks are the problem...as for graphics card pressure use

3dmark vantage
or furmark..

though i dont understand why you are still focusing on the card you lowered the ram timings and the system now works.; for some reason its like your trying to out right deny any other part of the system has a problem and i dont understand why you would be doing that.

keep the ram at 5-5-5-15 play a game for 30min..tell us how it goes

keep them at 5-5-5-15 run memtest once pass is fine. if its 40min...tell us how it goes.

it doesnt matter honestly if you think the ram is fine. im sorry to sound harsh but if looseing the timings helped its almost 100% a ram problem if you refuse to bealive it. or want to obsess over the card so be it. however the card is not a problem...also while letting it get to 108ºC and no artifacts is very good. (means it is NOT a card problem) i wouldnt reccomend letting it get that hot again. that is above thermal limit.

[Beny-Nvidia]

ok boys
i dont have the vantage at this time but ill test the Furmark ...

why the RAMS are showing Good in the tests ?!

by the way once i had my card on 140 the fan power was unplugged

what about the CPU !?

[Solaris17]

Originally Posted by Beny-Nvidia

ok boys
i dont have the vantage at this time but ill test the Furmark ...

why the RAMS are showing Good in the tests ?!

by the way once i had my card on 140 the fan power was unplugged

what about the CPU !?

.........the ram shows good in the test because you changed the timings and now they are doing good? inmo their is no reason to test the card or cpu at all or any further the ram seems to be your biggest issue at the moment. so while they are at 5-5-5-15 why dont you go do some testing like games? or run it through a pass of memtest?

[Beny-Nvidia]

its doing FURMARK at 1680*1050 for 15 minutes ... and going well ... the temps are 86-80-80 and no artifacts ...
ill try the memtest tomorrow ... now im sleepy and gonna do my works and then get some sleep ...
thank u solaris to following the topic ...

[Beny-Nvidia]

I Got the Furmark working for 30 minutes and no artifacts ... the problem is coming from the RAMS ...
tomorrow ill test them with the MEMTEST ...

and then ... i would have my VGA for myself :X

thank u all ... if u were not here i would throw the VGA away ..
thanks god ...

[Beny-Nvidia]

Hello Again ...
i ran the test on Default Bios and it passed Perfectly with no Artifacts !
i sat the RAMS on their Native Ferq (800 / 4-4-4-12) and i ran the test again, it passed perfectly again ...

now ... i found out the problem is ram ... i ll sell them and buy new module for myself ...
these rams have not any problem in their native but i cant effort it OCing them to 1066 ... so ill buy new ones ...

thanks again ... all of u ... ask what u want and if i could help i would do that for u ...

P.S:
so by these all stories at first the card has not any problem but that CAP missing and i think that could not be the Main Problem ...

what do u think ?!

another P.S: where is the all lads those were talking about buying a new card and throwing it Out ?!

[Solaris17]

well the cap could have played a roll yes. but ateast you finally figured out what it was. now be off!!! get your new ram and enjoy a stable system!

[dr emulator (madmax)]

Originally Posted by Beny-Nvidia

Hello Again ...
i ran the test on Default Bios and it passed Perfectly with no Artifacts !
i sat the RAMS on their Native Ferq (800 / 4-4-4-12) and i ran the test again, it passed perfectly again ...

now ... i found out the problem is ram ... i ll sell them and buy new module for myself ...
these rams have not any problem in their native but i cant effort it OCing them to 1066 ... so ill buy new ones ...

thanks again ... all of u ... ask what u want and if i could help i would do that for u ...

P.S:
so by these all stories at first the card has not any problem but that CAP missing and i think that could not be the Main Problem ...

what do u think ?!



another P.S: where is the all lads those were talking about buying a new card and throwing it Out ?!

mah don't listen to them they just want you to send it to them in the post for free
and to my knowledge that cap is for smoothing out voltage look here


a little recap for anyone calling that part a resistor

resistors


capacitors


slightly larger capacitors


diodes


fuses


thinner fuses


inductance chokes


although through my travels on the net i have come across stranger looking components

[Beny-Nvidia]

so as Solaris said its better to be off from it !

can i have my CPU on OC ?! its Stable ... tested Via OCCT ... ?!

[Beny-Nvidia]

so as Solaris said its better to be off from it !

can i have my CPU on OC ?! its Stable ... tested Via OCCT ... ?!

[Solaris17]

Originally Posted by Beny-Nvidia

so as Solaris said its better to be off from it !

can i have my CPU on OC ?! its Stable ... tested Via OCCT ... ?!

cpu is fine if it passes occt. the ram was the issue here just go grab yourself a new set (DONT MIX) and after you install the new set run mem test and occt to make sure the cpu and ram are stable and your good to go .

though in all honesty if you run your ram at 5-5-5-15 you should be good. or run it at stock timings and speed and voltage. that would save you from buying a new kit. but if you want to oc the ram go ahead and grab a new kit.

[Lazzer408]

What those caps are for. Final answer for $1,000,000. A capacitor in series with an alternating (logic high/low) DC signal is used for decoupling and/or removing DC offset. One example: If the source of the signal has a ground (0v) that's not -exactly- the same ground as the device it's signaling, you could have a DC offset. The problem is caused by the source's ground deviating slightly from 0v as loads vary. Since no wire is perfect (0 ohms) there can be a voltage drop along the wire. If the ground was wandering around between 0 and 250mv, it's possible that the signaled device could register that 250mv as a logic high. The capacitors dampen that in attempt to clean the signal. The "real" logic high may be 5v. The capacitor's value is chosen based on the frequency and level of the signal. If the capacitor was to small, it could discharge before the signal pulse was complete. If it's to large it takes up more room and may not correctly filter the signal.

I'm not quoting text-books. This is my own understanding of decoupling signals and I use it sometimes in my own circuits.

[Geofrancis]

Originally Posted by Beny-Nvidia

Hello Again ...
i ran the test on Default Bios and it passed Perfectly with no Artifacts !
i sat the RAMS on their Native Ferq (800 / 4-4-4-12) and i ran the test again, it passed perfectly again ...

now ... i found out the problem is ram ... i ll sell them and buy new module for myself ...
these rams have not any problem in their native but i cant effort it OCing them to 1066 ... so ill buy new ones ...

thanks again ... all of u ... ask what u want and if i could help i would do that for u ...

P.S:
so by these all stories at first the card has not any problem but that CAP missing and i think that could not be the Main Problem ...

what do u think ?!

another P.S: where is the all lads those were talking about buying a new card and throwing it Out ?!

why do you want to sell your ram when its stable at 800mhz rather than 1066mhz you will lose about 1-5% performance in any applications by changing those settings. its pointless selling the ram for a 5% performance difference.

[Beny-Nvidia]

The Rams are ok on native Ferq / Voltage ... and i will keep them .. because i see the Price of DDR-II rams got up ...

ill buy a Headphone Instead of Rams

HD 555 Senheiser

[Beny-Nvidia]

A question ...
Please Dont Hit me ...
Can I Overclock the VGA ?! :-s