Watercooling loop order - Page 2

Binge · Nov 8, 2009, 01:54 PM

That would probably be your best bet.

shevanel · Nov 8, 2009, 01:57 PM

If ambient was 70f do you think it would possibly shave oh I don't know.. 5 degrees off 50c?

Binge · Nov 8, 2009, 01:59 PM

I think you'd see a difference of 15C taken off 50C idle. Air coolers don't even have idle temps above 40C with your same overclock.

Since you have an i7 I suggest a Thermochill PA 120.3

shevanel · Nov 8, 2009, 02:04 PM

Right on. I wasnt sure but I had a feeling my radiator wasnt i7 material. It looks so tiny mounted at the top of the haf932.. It used to look HUGE when it hung from a radbox outside a matx case LMAO.

I've been debating on getting one of darkegos rads.. what do you think about them?

WarEagleAU · Nov 8, 2009, 02:24 PM

I always forget to go from my pump to my Rad, however my rad is on the outside of my HAF 932 and on the top, and with not angle bits or anything, is a pain in the ass. So I have mine set up like this: RES -> PUMP -> CPU Block (OCZ HydroFlow) -> 3x120MM Radiator -> RES. Currently, according to my ASUS LCD Poster that came with my board, my cpu at full load is runing 36 C and idles around 31 C

Velvet Wafer · Nov 8, 2009, 02:40 PM

*cough* double rads and double pumps

EDIT: paralell Rads are coool^^

Binge · Nov 8, 2009, 02:55 PM

Good rads, buy them both and see if you can't get them both for $80.

t77snapshot · Nov 8, 2009, 03:59 PM

I'm a new watercooler myself and wow this thread has been very helpfiul.

I really want to think Binge and newtekie for the great details in configurations. I was kinda surprised to see some of you with the cpu not directly after the rad, wouldn't you want the coolest partion of the loop to go right to the cpu? But I guess having the res and pump before the block wouldn't be that big of a difference in temps either.

Steevo · Nov 8, 2009, 04:17 PM

I have no res, and run rad-pump-CPU-GPU-rad with a 330 radiator and 1/2 inch tubing my temps are rock sold and only raise a bit through the loss of thermal conductivity. When ATI get off their asses and get a 5870 eyefinity out I am goign to clean my loop.

Ling story short with the amount you will be flowing on that pump the very minimal heat that will be picked up from the pump will amount to nothing as overclocking/heat control goes.

Binge · Nov 8, 2009, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t77snapshot

I'm a new watercooler myself and wow this thread has been very helpfiul.

I really want to think Binge and newtekie for the great details in configurations. I was kinda surprised to see some of you with the cpu not directly after the rad, wouldn't you want the coolest partion of the loop to go right to the cpu? But I guess having the res and pump before the block wouldn't be that big of a difference in temps either.

The water in your loop circulates several times before actually getting rid of all the heat in a given area of water. You will always have an ammount of heat in the water when the loop has been cooling an active PC. That's known as the equalibrium, and how close a radiator can take your temps to a good value of equalibrium is what determines the use of a radiator. Water is a great conductor of heat and also has a large thermal mass, so unless you're running a terrible loop the loop order won't matter much.

t77snapshot · Nov 9, 2009, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Binge

The water in your loop circulates several times before actually getting rid of all the heat in a given area of water. You will always have an ammount of heat in the water when the loop has been cooling an active PC. That's known as the equalibrium, and how close a radiator can take your temps to a good value of equalibrium is what determines the use of a radiator. Water is a great conductor of heat and also has a large thermal mass, so unless you're running a terrible loop the loop order won't matter much.

Oh I understand now, thanks Binge. My setup is Pump-->Rad-->CPU Block-->Res.-->Pump. I'm running a Koolance 330 cpu block, Laing D4 pump, Swiftech Res, Tygon tubing and a Thermochill PA120.2 rad. Currently cooling my duel-core

Binge · Nov 9, 2009, 04:12 AM

Nothing fancy there. Decent loop to cool what you need to cool.

t77snapshot · Nov 9, 2009, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Binge

Nothing fancy there. Decent loop to cool what you need to cool.

Well that's good to know, glad I'm doing something right considering I am kinda new to the whole liquid cooling world.

Velvet Wafer · Nov 9, 2009, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Binge

The water in your loop circulates several times before actually getting rid of all the heat in a given area of water. You will always have an ammount of heat in the water when the loop has been cooling an active PC. That's known as the equalibrium, and how close a radiator can take your temps to a good value of equalibrium is what determines the use of a radiator. Water is a great conductor of heat and also has a large thermal mass, so unless you're running a terrible loop the loop order won't matter much.

does that counts for mega rads also?

Binge · Nov 9, 2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet Wafer

does that counts for mega rads also?

I don't understand your meaning. The MO-RA 2 I owned I think might be considered a "Mega Rad" and it kept the temp to reach equilibrium rather low.

Velvet Wafer · Nov 9, 2009, 04:26 PM

something a little bigger,but flatter

(18 fanplaces)

Binge · Nov 9, 2009, 04:27 PM

That would still reach equilibrium. It would do it very quickly and at almost room temps.

t77snapshot · Nov 10, 2009, 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Velvet Wafer

something a little bigger,but flatter

(18 fanplaces)

wow!

shevanel · Nov 10, 2009, 07:00 AM

just put a box fan on that jimmy jank!!

Velvet Wafer · Nov 10, 2009, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Binge

That would still reach equilibrium. It would do it very quickly and at almost room temps.

and what results would that give me? (sry, i somehow created a monster, i dont know really much about

)

Quote:

Originally Posted by t77snapshot

wow!

it cools better than it looks, just need more fans

Quote:

Originally Posted by shevanel

just put a box fan on that jimmy jank!!

36x10 euro (magma fans)= 360 euro for fans???

but youre right, i have a need for a box of used ones,with functional and quiet bearings

shevanel · Nov 10, 2009, 01:13 PM

Velvet Wafer · Nov 10, 2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by shevanel

http://img.techpowerup.org/091110/OpenedUp1.jpg

i may have the possibility to get a fan from a ford fiesta, its even plastic, and its blade is..... ...thermaltake-orange

it also got a steel frame, i can do nearly everything with it

shevanel · Nov 10, 2009, 01:42 PM

WTF would happen if you mounted that big ass radiator in front of a window Air conditioner, would condensation become a problem too?

Velvet Wafer · Nov 10, 2009, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shevanel

WTF would happen if you mounted that big ass radiator in front of a window Air conditioner, would condensation become a problem too?

in North Germany, you dont need air conditioners. i just have to open my window, if it freezes, i hopefully will get under 0. and my room too

shevanel · Nov 10, 2009, 01:55 PM

I live in Florida and my roomate is the homeowner. he doesnt set the A/C thermostat lower than 78..

next summer I'm getting a window unit though, i can't stand to sleep with a fan blowing warm air on me.

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Nov 8, 2009, 02:04 PM	#29
shevanel Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Leesburg, FL Posts: 3,151 (2.26/day) Thanks: 1,515 Thanked 410 Times in 338 Posts System Specs	Right on. I wasnt sure but I had a feeling my radiator wasnt i7 material. It looks so tiny mounted at the top of the haf932.. It used to look HUGE when it hung from a radbox outside a matx case LMAO. I've been debating on getting one of darkegos rads.. what do you think about them? __________________ Stop comparing it to onboard! Compare it to something it falls short to so that we can really understand. HEAT

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shevanel Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Leesburg, FL Posts: 3,151 (2.26/day) Thanks: 1,515 Thanked 410 Times in 338 Posts System Specs	WTF would happen if you mounted that big ass radiator in front of a window Air conditioner, would condensation become a problem too? __________________ Stop comparing it to onboard! Compare it to something it falls short to so that we can really understand. HEAT

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