AMD Radeon HD 5970 Specs Surface

btarunr · Nov 11, 2009, 10:13 AM

In a few days from now, AMD will unveil its new flagship graphics accelerator, the ATI Radeon HD 5970, which will intends to cement the brand's performance leadership over every product from rival NVIDIA. The HD 5970, codenamed "Hemlock", is a dual-GPU accelerator, with two codenamed "Cypress" GPUs in an internal CrossfireX configuration.

Built on the 40 nm process, these GPUs will feature 1600 stream processors each, and will each have a 256-bit wide GDDR5 memory interface to connect to 2 GB of memory (4 GB total on card). The clock speeds are where the specifications of these GPUs differ from their single-GPU avatar, the Radeon HD 5870. The core is clocked at 725 MHz, while the memory runs at 1000 MHz (4000 MHz effective).

The accelerator will not have a rear panel identical to those of other Radeon HD 5000 series accelerators. It has the usual broad air vent occupying one slot, while the other has two DVI-D and one mini DisplayPort (DP) connector. The mini DP connector can give out DVI output using a dongle, and in this way, support for ATI Eyefinity technology remains intact. The NDA covering this accelerator is said to expire on the 19th of November, not very far away.

Source: TechConnect Magazine

theorw · Nov 11, 2009, 10:17 AM

WOW,so now to use this card u need 64bit OS since it has 4 gb right???

Marineborn · Nov 11, 2009, 10:17 AM

Mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

skylamer · Nov 11, 2009, 10:18 AM

wtfmaaaan?!

wiak · Nov 11, 2009, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theorw

WOW,so now to use this card u need 64bit OS since it has 4 gb right???

i think so, now you have to love AMD for their x86-64 extension also known as amd64 or intel64/EMT64

btw you can use Eyefinity with Dual DVI and a DisplayPort to btarunr

Phxprovost · Nov 11, 2009, 10:22 AM

lol great, yet another phantom card that looks lovely yet is impossible to buy

btarunr · Nov 11, 2009, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theorw

WOW,so now to use this card u need 64bit OS since it has 4 gb right???

You needed that for the ASUS MARS as well. Besides anyone who bought the HD 4870 X2 (a 2 GB card) with 2 GB of system memory was expected to be running 64-bit OS anyway, so it's not a big deal for its target consumers.

afw · Nov 11, 2009, 10:32 AM

hmm ....clock and memory speeds of a 5850 but 1600 shaders each .... might end up being a notch better than a 5850 crossfire configuration ....

anyways ... its gonna hold the performance crown .... no card from NV boys gonna beat that im sure ...

... (until their dual-gpu solutions come out that is) ..... ATi is surely havin it there way for now ...

whats the price of this going to be like ?? $500 ?? $550 ?? $600 .... ???

..
Im sure its goin to be high and remain high until the NV guys put out there cards ... ( which i think will take another 2-3 months at least ... hmmm

)

mtosev · Nov 11, 2009, 10:35 AM

4GB. hmm,... most PCs have that amount of RAM. a lot of memory on that card. should be good for playing games at max for the next 3years.

Mussels · Nov 11, 2009, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theorw

WOW,so now to use this card u need 64bit OS since it has 4 gb right???

yep. expect tons of reviews on 32 bit OS's to find the card 'lacking' :P

(technically, crossfire doesnt add ram. so only 2GB is accesible)

toyo · Nov 11, 2009, 10:43 AM

It seems the temperature issues rumours were true... too bad AMD engineers couldn't find a way to keep the stock speeds.

Lionheart · Nov 11, 2009, 10:46 AM

HELL YEAH BITCHES!!!

I WANT ONE RIGHT NOW, BUT THEN AGAIN, 2 HD5870 CARDS IN CROSSFIRE WOULD PROBABLY BEAT THIS MOST LIKELY, BUT THESE HAVE MORE MEMORY, HMMMMM WHAT TO GET, WHAT U GUYS THINK!!! I would get this if these dont have that microstuttering crap!!1

inferKNOX · Nov 11, 2009, 10:47 AM

Hmm... any info on the 5950, if there is one?

gumpty · Nov 11, 2009, 10:48 AM

Hmmm ... looks very tasty.

But while tempted, I can still remember all too freshly the burns I got from RMAing three 4870x2s.

Will be sticking to a single GPU solution for a while yet.

Lionheart · Nov 11, 2009, 10:51 AM

call it the hd5870x2, stop changing the naming schemes, dont follow in nvidias footsteps! lol

gumpty · Nov 11, 2009, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inferKNOX

Hmm... any info on the 5950, if there is one?

I'm not entirely convinced that these are 5950 & not 5970, but here you go. Source.

First pic has it next to a regular 5870.

inferKNOX · Nov 11, 2009, 11:01 AM

Thanks. I see what you mean though, it is arguable.
If true, that'll put 2 cards standing head and shoulders above the rest as the most powerful in the world.
If nVidia is struggling with single GPU cards, it's very hard to seem them bringing out a dual to knock back these performance giants. Unless the single nV GPU cards will outdo these, but that's crazy... right?

Lionheart · Nov 11, 2009, 11:01 AM

mmmmmm they look nice!!!

InnocentCriminal · Nov 11, 2009, 11:04 AM

I look forward to (p)reviews and such, but I still believe that having two video cards is rather pointless unless you're gaming at stupidly large resolutions. Still, it's nice to have a big ePenis.

Yellow&Nerdy? · Nov 11, 2009, 11:16 AM

That card begs for watercooling. And I think that the pictures are of the 5950, not 5970.

It's freaking 13.5 inches! You're gonna have to own a monster of a case to fit that. Not to mension availability. Probably not a chance to get one until next year, since they're already short on 5870 and 5850 cards.

wolf · Nov 11, 2009, 11:19 AM

*sigh* uninspiring clock speeds IMO.

Looks like for most benchmarks and gaming a pair of 5870's will whip this until it actually gets into its extra memory per GPU, unless the overclocking is magical.

I think if it uses the standard blower cooler the OCing wont be that great, as temps/noise may get out of control, could be good if it has the cooler shown in Post #16, or a water block

In any case I really hope this means 1gb 5870/50's take a bit of a drop in price, and availability rises over the next few months.

Also if drivers focus on this it may really help a dual 5850/5870 situation

PP Mguire · Nov 11, 2009, 11:26 AM

I just got a boner enough to say fuck nvidia. dooo want!!

inferKNOX · Nov 11, 2009, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHAOS_KILLA

call it the hd5870x2, stop changing the naming schemes, dont follow in nvidias footsteps! lol

Somehow the naming scheme already seems too long as, for example
Sapphire Radeon HD 5900 4GB Vapor-X Edition,
nevermind
Sapphire Radeon HD 5800 x2 4GB (2x2GB) Vapor-X Edition

EDIT: IMO, although it wouldn't happen obviously, but anyway:
Sapphire 5900 4GB Vapor-X
would be sufficient naming, or maybe include the "Radeon"

HalfAHertz · Nov 11, 2009, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toyo

It seems the temperature issues rumours were true... too bad AMD engineers couldn't find a way to keep the stock speeds.

It's not about temps, but providing enough juice through two pci-e power connectors and the onboard port. A single 5870 uses >190W and the max power envelope is ~300W for a pci-e port+6-pin+8-pin...

W1zzard · Nov 11, 2009, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theorw

WOW,so now to use this card u need 64bit OS since it has 4 gb right???

using such a card does not require a 64-bit system. i dont know the exact details how it works, but i sent an email to someone who should know it asking for more info

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Case:	NZXT Beta \ Laptop
Sound Card:	Creative X-Fi Xtreme Gamer PCI
PSU:	Thermaltake 1000watt Toughpower Modular
Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate X64 OEM (Legit) + XP SP2 x86 dual boot
Benchmarks:	27,192 3dmark06 (4.0ghz i5 + 280 SLI all air) 23k 06 single 280 4.6ghz i5 single stage 14k 06 4850

System Name:	Mini Kraken
Processor:	i5-3330
Motherboard:	AsRock B75M-DGS
Cooling:	stock
Memory:	2x4GB Kingston 1600MHz
Video Card:	Saphire Radeon 7850 2GB
Hard Disk:	Plextor M5S 120GB+1TB Seagate
Optical Drive:	-
CRT/LCD Model:	23' Dell
Case:	Nonamebrand ATX case with lots of fans
Sound Card:	stock
PSU:	CM Extreme Power 475W
Software:	W7