Black border around some games

DrPepper · Dec 9, 2009, 02:24 PM

Hello everyone I'm posting about an issue I get with ATI drivers about a black border that forms around the screen in some games. Most noticably Modern Warfare 2.

If you look at the attached picture you can see the white is the screen border then there is a black gap and then you can see the game. This doesn't happen in vista with CCC 9.11 or 9.10 but only in win7 with 9.11's and 9.10's. Anyone have this issue, I've tried to change the scaling setting but that makes no difference also the aspect ratio and resolution etc are set correctly. Also when I change the game resolution to 1360x768 there is no black border but the picture is degraded due to it not being the native resolution.

Sasqui · Dec 9, 2009, 02:52 PM

Sounds like an underscan issue. I haven't run my 4870 through my HDTV in a while, but back in the early CAT 9's, I found a setting for that, and it fixed it. Poke around in CCC.

DrPepper · Dec 9, 2009, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasqui

Sounds like an underscan issue. I haven't run my 4870 through my HDTV in a while, but back in the early CAT 9's, I found a setting for that, and it fixed it. Poke around in CCC.

Underscan is already maxed out and if I lower it the picture just gets smaller.

H82LUZ73 · Dec 9, 2009, 02:55 PM

go to enable gpu scaling then the scaling tab move your slider over until the border is gone.

DrPepper · Dec 9, 2009, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H82LUZ73

go to enable gpu scaling then the scaling tab move your slider over until the border is gone.

Slider is already maxed out.

DirectorC · Dec 9, 2009, 03:24 PM

Are your native, desktop and gaming resolutions all the same?

It seems like what it's doing is instead of going full-screen with whatever resolution you give it, it's staying stuck at native or desktop resolution and putting the game's display inside that.

Really frkin wacky. Glad I don't use ATI cards.

Sasqui · Dec 9, 2009, 03:26 PM

Is it a 4890 listed in your specs and what are you using for a cable?

DrPepper · Dec 9, 2009, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirectorC

Are your native, desktop and gaming resolutions all the same?

It seems like what it's doing is instead of going full-screen with whatever resolution you give it, it's staying stuck at native or desktop resolution and putting the game's display inside that.

Really frkin wacky. Glad I don't use ATI cards.

Yeah resolution and aspect ratio is 16:9 for the desktop and also set that in the game. Company of heroes and forged alliance also do it. Make's me want to swap this for a GTX275 or something.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasqui

Is it a 4890 listed in your specs and what are you using for a cable?

Yeah it is and its a DVI - HDMI adaptor with an HDMI cable going to the monitor

bobzilla2009 · Dec 9, 2009, 05:24 PM

This always happened to me with my hd4670 when i hooked it up to a hdtv too, except it would sometimes underscan and then overscan depending on resolution (even though i was always using resolutions the tv was capable of), 'twas strange indeed. I'm not sure if it'll be the same with my hd5870.

DrPepper · Dec 9, 2009, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobzilla2009

This always happened to me with my hd4670 when i hooked it up to a hdtv too, except it would sometimes underscan and then overscan depending on resolution (even though i was always using resolutions the tv was capable of), 'twas strange indeed. I'm not sure if it'll be the same with my hd5870.

It's definately a driver issue, I just hope the 9.12's fix it or I'l swap it for a 275 or a 260.

bobzilla2009 · Dec 9, 2009, 05:43 PM

Indeed, it is very annoying when it does it tbh, but it's also dependant on the tv, too. Since it only happens on one of the hdtv's, the other one is fine, it just permanently underscans, which was easily fixed by the slider.

DrPepper · Dec 9, 2009, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobzilla2009

Indeed, it is very annoying when it does it tbh, but it's also dependant on the tv, too. Since it only happens on one of the hdtv's, the other one is fine, it just permanently underscans, which was easily fixed by the slider.

Yeah I was beginning to think it was due to my screen but apparently not since one of yours does it.

DirectorC · Dec 9, 2009, 05:55 PM

Isn't there something on your TV you can try like an Aspect Ratio or Zoom button?

bobzilla2009 · Dec 9, 2009, 05:57 PM

there's got to be something intrinsicly wrong with some HDTV's too though, since this problem has never happened on a normal pc monitor as far as i know.

DrPepper · Dec 9, 2009, 05:57 PM

Yeah all it does is slightly reduce the black border and makes the picture fuzzy'er.

THRiLL KiLL · Dec 9, 2009, 05:59 PM

have you tried older revisions of the driver?

H82LUZ73 · Dec 9, 2009, 06:03 PM

You have the add HDTV custom modes checked off and try the enable GPU modes scaling .....

DrPepper · Dec 9, 2009, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THRiLL KiLL

have you tried older revisions of the driver?

Nope I'd prefer to keep the driver up to date but I'm sure this happened when I got the 9.11's and didn't bother going back because I didn't think it would bother me.

AsRock · Dec 9, 2009, 06:40 PM

DX 10 games do it and not sure if it's been fixed yet. If it's running DX9 try changing the refresh rate to 59.

DrPepper · Dec 9, 2009, 06:41 PM

I'l try that but there all dx9 games apart from coh.

AsRock · Dec 9, 2009, 06:57 PM

All DX10 \10.1 games do it on me unless i turn of DX10 and use DX9. There was one game that did it in DX9 which is Trine which changing the refresh rate higher ( in XP x64 as the options were available over 60Hz ) and for vista it's stuck with the borders as in Vista it will not let me pick higher..

World in Conflict turning off AA got rid of the borders.

I hope it gets resolved one day soon as if they do not by end of next year i'll be buying nVidia card.

DrPepper · Dec 9, 2009, 06:58 PM

Nope didn't fix unfortunately

THRiLL KiLL · Dec 9, 2009, 09:38 PM

would powerstirp work for you?

http://www.entechtaiwan.com/util/ps.shtm

JoTob · Dec 10, 2009, 12:16 AM

I am having a similar issue myself. I have a core 2 system with a newly purchased 4890 card. Some of my games dont scale to the full screen, I have a new 42 inch LG tv lcd 1080p, i set all my games to 1080x1920 and most of them are fine such as l4d and l4d2. But i just tried to play killing floor set it to 1080x1920 and i have a 2 inch black border around the screen i have the same issue with bf 2142. I recently replaced my 9800 gt card with a radeon 4890 and I did not have this issue with the 9800 on any games. also it only happens with games.

captwillard · Dec 11, 2009, 11:57 PM

Having the same problem on a new Acer S243HL monitor. It only has HDMI inputs and VGA. I've got a HD4870 running 9.11 connected via HDMI and have black borders in MW2 running at 1920x1080. The desktop is OK after setting scaling to 0%.

Dec 9, 2009, 02:24 PM	#1
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Sasqui Eligible for custom title Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Manchester, NH Posts: 6,066 (2.23/day) Thanks: 827 Thanked 913 Times in 746 Posts System Specs	Sounds like an underscan issue. I haven't run my 4870 through my HDTV in a while, but back in the early CAT 9's, I found a setting for that, and it fixed it. Poke around in CCC. __________________ Heatware

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Sasqui Eligible for custom title Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Manchester, NH Posts: 6,066 (2.23/day) Thanks: 827 Thanked 913 Times in 746 Posts System Specs	Is it a 4890 listed in your specs and what are you using for a cable? __________________ Heatware

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bobzilla2009 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 453 (0.34/day) Thanks: 14 Thanked 39 Times in 31 Posts System Specs	Indeed, it is very annoying when it does it tbh, but it's also dependant on the tv, too. Since it only happens on one of the hdtv's, the other one is fine, it just permanently underscans, which was easily fixed by the slider.

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DirectorC Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florizy Posts: 1,597 (1.23/day) Thanks: 90 Thanked 269 Times in 248 Posts System Specs	Isn't there something on your TV you can try like an Aspect Ratio or Zoom button?

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bobzilla2009 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 453 (0.34/day) Thanks: 14 Thanked 39 Times in 31 Posts System Specs	there's got to be something intrinsicly wrong with some HDTV's too though, since this problem has never happened on a normal pc monitor as far as i know.

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H82LUZ73 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cobourg,Ontario Posts: 1,362 (0.72/day) Thanks: 1,136 Thanked 249 Times in 206 Posts System Specs	You have the add HDTV custom modes checked off and try the enable GPU modes scaling .....

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DrPepper The Doctor is in the house Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Scotland (It rains alot) Posts: 6,423 (3.28/day) Thanks: 977 Thanked 828 Times in 667 Posts System Specs	I'l try that but there all dx9 games apart from coh.

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AsRock TPU addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US\ Uk Born Posts: 8,796 (4.07/day) Thanks: 1,677 Thanked 1,348 Times in 1,170 Posts System Specs	All DX10 \10.1 games do it on me unless i turn of DX10 and use DX9. There was one game that did it in DX9 which is Trine which changing the refresh rate higher ( in XP x64 as the options were available over 60Hz ) and for vista it's stuck with the borders as in Vista it will not let me pick higher.. World in Conflict turning off AA got rid of the borders. I hope it gets resolved one day soon as if they do not by end of next year i'll be buying nVidia card.

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DrPepper The Doctor is in the house Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Scotland (It rains alot) Posts: 6,423 (3.28/day) Thanks: 977 Thanked 828 Times in 667 Posts System Specs	Nope didn't fix unfortunately

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Dec 10, 2009, 12:16 AM	#24
JoTob Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I am having a similar issue myself. I have a core 2 system with a newly purchased 4890 card. Some of my games dont scale to the full screen, I have a new 42 inch LG tv lcd 1080p, i set all my games to 1080x1920 and most of them are fine such as l4d and l4d2. But i just tried to play killing floor set it to 1080x1920 and i have a 2 inch black border around the screen i have the same issue with bf 2142. I recently replaced my 9800 gt card with a radeon 4890 and I did not have this issue with the 9800 on any games. also it only happens with games.

Dec 11, 2009, 11:57 PM	#25
captwillard Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Having the same problem on a new Acer S243HL monitor. It only has HDMI inputs and VGA. I've got a HD4870 running 9.11 connected via HDMI and have black borders in MW2 running at 1920x1080. The desktop is OK after setting scaling to 0%.

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