MSI Readies First AMD 890-FX Based Motherboard - Page 2

TheLaughingMan · Dec 11, 2009, 08:13 PM

I am starting to like MSi more and more. I guess everyone is happy they dropped the brown PCB board mine was stamped onto with its pink, teal, and "insert girl word for purple" slots.

I love my mobo, but I am glad most of it is covered up by the Mugen II and GTX 260.

Meizuman · Dec 11, 2009, 08:25 PM

What is that connector next to the RJ-45? USB? Rounded edges? Does not compute

Zubasa · Dec 11, 2009, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Meizuman

What is that connector next to the RJ-45? USB? Rounded edges? Does not compute

Most likely eSATA+USB combo jack.

javaking · Dec 11, 2009, 08:47 PM

So what's the difference in the 980a and the 890a

Zubasa · Dec 11, 2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by javaking

So what's the difference in the 980a and the 890a

Two completely unrelated chipsets?

890FX > 890a

javaking · Dec 11, 2009, 08:50 PM

whitch is better chipset

Zubasa · Dec 11, 2009, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javaking

whitch is better chipset

As far as I see it, the 980a chipset is no better than the 790FX.
So I guess its call PWN'd?

javaking · Dec 11, 2009, 08:53 PM

I'am a noob I quess I'am in for little more reading

HossHuge · Dec 11, 2009, 09:15 PM

Does this mean that AMD won't be going tri-channel with Bulldozer?

Steevo · Dec 11, 2009, 09:18 PM

I predict a MSI board that has issues, like most of the other MSI boards i have used. Alot of PCI-e but only four useable, but at least when you encounter a wierd issue you can use the rear reset button instead of trying to dig into a crowded case to reset a completely locked up system.

Polarman · Dec 11, 2009, 09:28 PM

6 PCIe is pretty pointless. Why not make it red instead of blue ?

Hunt3r · Dec 11, 2009, 09:32 PM

the price will be a little salty so make to see..

Zubasa · Dec 11, 2009, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polarman

6 PCIe is pretty pointless. Why not make it red instead of blue ?

On top of that, MSI have some of the dumbest slot layouts on the market.
Just look at their 790FX-GD70, where on earth should you put your sound card?

They are smart enough to put an x1 slot right under the first x16 slot, so dual x16 CF = onboard sound.
Yes, the other 2 slots are only capable of x8.
Isn't the whole poitn of 790FX is dual X16 / quad x4?

Jizzler · Dec 11, 2009, 09:45 PM

They give in to the "sound card" crowd, get flack from the quad Crossfire crowd. MSI just can't win

Zubasa · Dec 11, 2009, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jizzler

They give in to the "sound card" crowd, get flack from the quad Crossfire crowd. MSI just can't win

All they need to do is to swap the pci-e x1 slot with the middle pci slot that nobody uses anymore.
Since the only x16 slots are the first and the third.

Jizzler · Dec 11, 2009, 10:01 PM

Ahhh... true. I was thinking of a different board.

And even better, don't swap, just make them all x1!

theubersmurf · Dec 11, 2009, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossHuge

Does this mean that AMD won't be going tri-channel with Bulldozer?

Somehow I doubt it will be a common thing for anything but LGA 1366 socket mobos. Besides which, AMD tends to be slow in the updating of it's memory controllers. It seems like they get reused from generation to generation of processor, and only update it every once in a while.

theubersmurf · Dec 12, 2009, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jizzler

They give in to the "sound card" crowd, get flack from the quad Crossfire crowd. MSI just can't win

A lot of those people have never owned an MSI board, if they knew how stable they were they might change their tune, besides which, when you hear about most "extreme" overclocks, people aren't using MSI boards, with overclocking being the hip thing for enthusiasts, they tend to flock to the most well regarded in the light of overclocking. I love my Eclipse, it's been a great board since day one...Just over a year ago now.

MK4512 · Dec 12, 2009, 12:22 AM

Wow, I could keep my house warm if I had 6 Xfire setup!

Who REALLY needs that much power...

Zubasa · Dec 12, 2009, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theubersmurf

Somehow I doubt it will be a common thing for anything but LGA 1366 socket mobos. Besides which, AMD tends to be slow in the updating of it's memory controllers. It seems like they get reused from generation to generation of processor, and only update it every once in a while.

The same goes both ways.
Intel haven't updated their memory controller for quite a while until the the LGA 1156 and 1366 platforms.
As far as tri-channel goes, not even the i7 needs that bandwidth, this is evident from how the 1156 i7 performs.

soryuuha · Dec 12, 2009, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by human_error

I can't help but feel that this board needs more PCI-E slots

5x PCie not good enough?

Gjohnst4 · Dec 12, 2009, 04:26 AM

Now if MSI would only let me trade in my 790FX-GD70 I'd be all set ><

PP Mguire · Dec 12, 2009, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zubasa

On top of that, MSI have some of the dumbest slot layouts on the market.
Just look at their 790FX-GD70, where on earth should you put your sound card?

They are smart enough to put an x1 slot right under the first x16 slot, so dual x16 CF = onboard sound.
Yes, the other 2 slots are only capable of x8.
Isn't the whole poitn of 790FX is dual X16 / quad x4?

In any of the other pci-e slots that are provided

You dont need a dedicated 1x slot for a sound card. If you have 4 pci-e slots and are only using 2 for crossfire then stick a sound card in one of the other availible slots.

For instance.

aj28 · Dec 12, 2009, 05:15 AM

I think it's worth pointing out the obvious for a few of the people posting earlier in the thread: PCI-E 16x slots may be used for any PCI-E configuration all the way down to PCI-E 1x cards. It's not that they're useless so much as they're giving you a wide array of options in how you want to orient your graphics cards relative to the rest of the system, which is great given the fact that almost all current-gen cards are or will be dual-slot, and some custom configurations now call for as many as three.

Now all we need are those cheap PCI-E 1x add-on cards... That we've needed... For years now...

Zubasa · Dec 12, 2009, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PP Mguire

In any of the other pci-e slots that are provided

You dont need a dedicated 1x slot for a sound card. If you have 4 pci-e slots and are only using 2 for crossfire then stick a sound card in one of the other availible slots.

For instance.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...s/DSCN0854.jpg

I know what you mean, but according to the manual only the 2 of ths slots are electrically x16.
That is the slot your GTX 280 is in, and the slot that your X-Fi is in.

The other 2 slots are x8 only and, and when pluged in it switches to x16/x8/x8 mode.
It doesn't say what happens if you put an x1 card in.
The most "logical" way is assuming that the bios is dumb.....
Since I haven't seen anyone try out what happens.

Dec 11, 2009, 08:13 PM	#26
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Dec 11, 2009, 08:50 PM	#31
javaking Join Date: May 2008 Location: Calumet City,IL Posts: 61 (0.03/day) Thanks: 10 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	whitch is better chipset

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