Auto-censor in content forums

btarunr · Dec 14, 2009, 05:04 PM

We are contemplating an addon that automatically censors swear words, for content forums (such as news, reviews, articles), to keep the those forums clean of swear words since they're most visited by site visitors reading comments of news, reviews, etc.

While TPU isn't for any concrete word censorship (besides those which violate the forum guidelines), some amount of cleanliness, at least in content forums, isn't that bad.

BTW, what the addon does is: [swear word] -> ******* automatically.

What are your views?

Productive discussion please.

Cold Storm · Dec 14, 2009, 05:16 PM

+1 on that.

LifeOnMars · Dec 14, 2009, 05:22 PM

i think it's a good idea in principle, although to be honest, the moderators are so on the ball here that people generally know how far they can take it and respect that. I used to look at the FIFA 10 forums for the xbox 360 and they used a swear filter, annoyingly however their replacement text was "lala" for every swear. It got very annoying reading constant posts with lala this and lala that along with the ZOMG's,LOLs and all the other internet jargon that is used so widely nowadays. In conclusion I don't feel this forum needs it

Cold Storm · Dec 14, 2009, 05:34 PM

Now, how does this really go down, for what I am saying is this.

If you write the word Sh1t.. will it still **** it?

DonInKansas · Dec 14, 2009, 05:42 PM

add ons can be tweaked to block forms like that too. It just depends on how pumped the higher ups get to insert all that stuff.

btarunr · Dec 14, 2009, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cold Storm

Now, how does this really go down, for what I am saying is this.

If you write the word Sh1t.. will it still **** it?

Yes, unlike some famous forums that use the "banana" smiley and as lifeonmars pointed out "lala", you can make the addon replace a blacklisted word with anything, we understand how annoying a banana smiley can be, so it will only get replaced by asterisks.

Cold Storm · Dec 14, 2009, 05:51 PM

Yeah, the asterisks would be a better look then a bunch of banana's moving about.

FordGT90Concept · Dec 14, 2009, 05:53 PM

As long as it doesn't turn "Fun With Dick and Jane" into "Fun With **** and Jane" and "my window is cracked" into "my window is *******," I don't have a problem with it.

btarunr · Dec 14, 2009, 05:54 PM

If it's case-sensitive, Dick (as in the name) starts with D, while the other thing starts with d.

A Cheese Danish · Dec 14, 2009, 05:57 PM

Sounds good to me, especially with reviews.

Polaris573 · Dec 14, 2009, 05:57 PM

I just want to make sure that I understand correctly and confirm that this would only be for the news and reviews sub-forums.

While I see the hypothetical benefit of content filtering in those sub-forums I don't believe the rest of the forums would benefit from it. Even the occasional cursing is relatively rare and excessive cursing hardly occurs at all.

I would like to re-iterate that I see the benefit hypothetical.You may want to consider whether other major review sites filter curse words on their forums. If they don't then occasional cursing by forum members may be a non-factor in receiving reviews when compared to the size of the community and the quality of the review writers. It is also worth considering that blanket censorship may or may not serve as a irritant to community growth, and forum population definitely has a large impact on what reviews we receive.

I may investigate some other forums if I get the time and ambition.

Kei · Dec 14, 2009, 06:00 PM

I think it's a great idea, especially for the forums in question. The other forums are policed very well I believe so it's not truly needed there at this time.

I'm also very glad that you're using asterisks instead of any other graphical representation.

Kei

DaveK · Dec 14, 2009, 06:03 PM

Will we have the option to turn this off? I don't like censorship, and it would be there if people chose to use it. Not really a fan of it, you get into the debate of what's a bad word and what isn't as people have different views.

Also take not of things like fúck, I used that to pass a filter on another forum, which had a crap ton of words censored, it was pretty stupid.

btarunr · Dec 14, 2009, 06:03 PM

Comments with news make it to the front-page, review discussions get a big share of visitors too. While TPU doesn't restrict using swear words, it could affect site quality for visitors.

btarunr · Dec 14, 2009, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveK

Will we have the option to turn this off? I don't like censorship, and it would be there if people chose to use it. Not really a fan of it, you get into the debate of what's a bad word and what isn't as people have different views.

Also take not of things like fúck, I used that to pass a filter on another forum, which had a crap ton of words censored, it was pretty stupid.

This addon can't be toggled on/off for specific users because of the way it works.

How it works: Each time you submit a new post or save an edit, the text is parsed for blacklisted words, those words are converted to "*******" (each character of the blacklisted word is replaced with a *) and written to the database. When it is read, the system only displays those "*******". Once it's saved, the parsing is done even when you save an edit. Now that you pointed out we'll remember to blacklist "fúck", if and when this addon is installed.

MohawkAngel · Dec 14, 2009, 06:07 PM

What if im a farmer and i ask someone if he wanna see my cock? It doesnt mean that i will show him what ive got in my pants :P

erocker · Dec 14, 2009, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MohawkAngel

What if im a farmer and i ask someone if he wanna see my cock? It doesnt mean that i will show him what ive got in my pants :P

I would just infract you for being off topic in a news/review thread.

Unless, of course TPU decides to implement a farming/gardening section, then you can talk about your and your friends cocks all you want.

MohawkAngel · Dec 14, 2009, 06:11 PM

hahahah already then!

btarunr · Dec 14, 2009, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MohawkAngel

What if im a farmer and i ask someone if he wanna see my cock? It doesnt mean that i will show him what ive got in my pants :P

Why would you need someone to show his cock in the middle of a discussion about "GeForce GTX 380 Review" or "EU sues Intel for a few atoms of Lead in packaging" (basically reviews and news threads), in the first place?

MohawkAngel · Dec 14, 2009, 06:17 PM

I was just kidding but you still argue about that

DrPepper · Dec 14, 2009, 06:19 PM

Yeah go for it. If it improves the site I'm all in. That said half my posts will be just lines of *'s

jpierce55 · Dec 14, 2009, 06:31 PM

I say it is a good idea

WhiteLotus · Dec 14, 2009, 06:41 PM

as long as it is only the harsher words. the F, C, and the W ones. I mean, if i'm really pee'ed off at something i would tend to use bloody. Now to some that is swearing but to me it just a word that shows how annoyed i am at something.

Jstn7477 · Dec 14, 2009, 06:50 PM

Sounds like a fair idea. From what I have heard, TPU is heavily sponsored, and thus needs to maintain a level of professionalism since thousands of visitors come here and read the great news articles and reviews that we have here. Censorship isn't great, but swearing isn't needed in the news and reviews sections, especially if it affects TPU's image. If you need to swear, take it somewhere else. I have barely used swear words here because I can control myself.

Conflict0s · Dec 14, 2009, 07:14 PM

I am all for it in the reviews and news sections. Sometimes I find it a little off putting when I just want to chill and read some reviews and some fool seems to feel the need to mark his opinion with swearing.

Although for some reason when ever I see astrix's I always try and figure out what the word is. Dam you curiosity!

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Dec 14, 2009, 05:04 PM	#1
btarunr Editor & Senior Moderator Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hyderabad, India Posts: 14,982 (7.30/day) Thanks: 788 Thanked 12,903 Times in 5,652 Posts System Specs	Auto-censor in content forums We are contemplating an addon that automatically censors swear words, for content forums (such as news, reviews, articles), to keep the those forums clean of swear words since they're most visited by site visitors reading comments of news, reviews, etc. While TPU isn't for any concrete word censorship (besides those which violate the forum guidelines), some amount of cleanliness, at least in content forums, isn't that bad. BTW, what the addon does is: [swear word] -> ******* automatically. What are your views? Productive discussion please. __________________ Gadgets, Phones, Tablets, Cameras, TVs, HiFi...NextPowerUp

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Dec 14, 2009, 05:16 PM	#2
Cold Storm Battosai Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In a library somewhere on this earth Posts: 10,566 (5.14/day) Thanks: 4,240 Thanked 3,047 Times in 2,493 Posts System Specs	+1 on that. __________________ The only way success is before work, is in the dictionary Support for the mind. Support for your hardware

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Dec 14, 2009, 05:22 PM	#3
LifeOnMars Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kettering,Northants. UK Posts: 2,242 (1.25/day) Thanks: 1,718 Thanked 401 Times in 337 Posts System Specs	i think it's a good idea in principle, although to be honest, the moderators are so on the ball here that people generally know how far they can take it and respect that. I used to look at the FIFA 10 forums for the xbox 360 and they used a swear filter, annoyingly however their replacement text was "lala" for every swear. It got very annoying reading constant posts with lala this and lala that along with the ZOMG's,LOLs and all the other internet jargon that is used so widely nowadays. In conclusion I don't feel this forum needs it

Dec 14, 2009, 05:34 PM	#4
Cold Storm Battosai Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In a library somewhere on this earth Posts: 10,566 (5.14/day) Thanks: 4,240 Thanked 3,047 Times in 2,493 Posts System Specs	Now, how does this really go down, for what I am saying is this. If you write the word Sh1t.. will it still **** it? __________________ The only way success is before work, is in the dictionary Support for the mind. Support for your hardware

Dec 14, 2009, 05:42 PM	#5
DonInKansas Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 4,261 (1.95/day) Thanks: 779 Thanked 1,273 Times in 1,007 Posts System Specs	add ons can be tweaked to block forms like that too. It just depends on how pumped the higher ups get to insert all that stuff. __________________ Sneekypeet on my disappearance from TPU: "He went to school for a while to learn how to deal with douchebags and delight in pastries and exotic coffees....or in English, he is a cop now." You know what time it is......

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Dec 14, 2009, 05:51 PM	#7
Cold Storm Battosai Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In a library somewhere on this earth Posts: 10,566 (5.14/day) Thanks: 4,240 Thanked 3,047 Times in 2,493 Posts System Specs	Yeah, the asterisks would be a better look then a bunch of banana's moving about. __________________ The only way success is before work, is in the dictionary Support for the mind. Support for your hardware

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Dec 14, 2009, 05:57 PM	#10
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Dec 14, 2009, 05:57 PM	#11
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Dec 14, 2009, 06:00 PM	#12
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Dec 14, 2009, 06:03 PM	#13
DaveK Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 1,268 (0.75/day) Thanks: 113 Thanked 137 Times in 119 Posts System Specs	Will we have the option to turn this off? I don't like censorship, and it would be there if people chose to use it. Not really a fan of it, you get into the debate of what's a bad word and what isn't as people have different views. Also take not of things like fúck, I used that to pass a filter on another forum, which had a crap ton of words censored, it was pretty stupid.

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Dec 14, 2009, 06:07 PM	#16
MohawkAngel Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,814 (1.15/day) Thanks: 87 Thanked 128 Times in 116 Posts System Specs	What if im a farmer and i ask someone if he wanna see my cock? It doesnt mean that i will show him what ive got in my pants :P

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Dec 14, 2009, 06:11 PM	#18
MohawkAngel Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,814 (1.15/day) Thanks: 87 Thanked 128 Times in 116 Posts System Specs	hahahah already then!

Dec 14, 2009, 06:17 PM	#20
MohawkAngel Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,814 (1.15/day) Thanks: 87 Thanked 128 Times in 116 Posts System Specs	I was just kidding but you still argue about that

Dec 14, 2009, 06:19 PM	#21
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Dec 14, 2009, 06:31 PM	#22
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Dec 14, 2009, 06:41 PM	#23
WhiteLotus Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Plymouth, UK Posts: 4,808 (2.26/day) Thanks: 530 Thanked 856 Times in 682 Posts System Specs	as long as it is only the harsher words. the F, C, and the W ones. I mean, if i'm really pee'ed off at something i would tend to use bloody. Now to some that is swearing but to me it just a word that shows how annoyed i am at something. __________________ “Sorry but I cannot respond now, I am running a full virus scan on the internet.” -brandonwh64

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Dec 14, 2009, 06:50 PM	#24
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Dec 14, 2009, 07:14 PM	#25
Conflict0s Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Manchester, United Kingdom. Posts: 372 (0.23/day) Thanks: 79 Thanked 65 Times in 57 Posts System Specs	I am all for it in the reviews and news sections. Sometimes I find it a little off putting when I just want to chill and read some reviews and some fool seems to feel the need to mark his opinion with swearing. Although for some reason when ever I see astrix's I always try and figure out what the word is. Dam you curiosity! __________________ Join TPU's WCG/BOINC Team.

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