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Old Dec 14, 2009, 06:05 PM   #101
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If its even 10 fps higer the GTX380 then we are looking at thousands of over priced dollars on it for just 10 fps
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Old Dec 14, 2009, 06:06 PM   #102
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If its even 10 fps higer the GTX380 then we are looking at thousands hundreds of over priced dollars on it for just 10 fps
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Old Dec 14, 2009, 06:26 PM   #103
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breaking news! etch-a-sketch faster than GTX300!
that...is the most fucking hilarious thing I've seen in a long time, I literally had to wait a couple minutes to stop laughing to type this response, that etch a sketch dude put me over the hilarity cliff, I chuckled at the chrome/larabee...but that set me up perfectly for scrolling to this...that is just...priceless! lol...shit, I'm going to buy me an etch a sketch for Christmas and replace my 8800gts 512...that'll be like upgrading an atom 1.3 ghz processor to a core i7 on nitrogen at 6 ghz!!!!
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meh

LCDs can only do 60 FPS, with the exception of a few 120HZ ones on the market, so who cares if a 5850 gets 72fps and the (to be released) Gtx 380 gets 113fps, when an LCD can do 60 fps

Idle power consumption, and noise matter more to me than 120 vs 220 fps anyday
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Old Dec 14, 2009, 06:30 PM   #105
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Performance matters to us more than idle power consumption because our gpu's aren't usually idle.
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LCDs can only do 60 FPS, with the exception of a few 120HZ ones on the market, so who cares if a 5850 gets 72fps and the (to be released) Gtx 380 gets 113fps, when an LCD can do 60 fps

Idle power consumption, and noise matter more to me than 120 vs 220 fps anyday
psst, that's why I got a 22 inch g225f viewsonic crt while I still could last year
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LCDs can only do 60 FPS, with the exception of a few 120HZ ones on the market, so who cares if a 5850 gets 72fps and the (to be released) Gtx 380 gets 113fps, when an LCD can do 60 fps

Idle power consumption, and noise matter more to me than 120 vs 220 fps anyday
Wrong. Some LCDs can do 240. It also depends on the resolution.
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Well, not to get too wrapped up with any supposed controversy . . . I'll wait until TPUs reviews are up to draw solid concclusions.


THe one thing that has perked my interest, though, is the resolutions the've used for the slides . . .

Taking a grain of salt that nVidia more than likely hand-picked any results to show in their favor (like all companies are good about doing), and the fact that at 1920x1200 they seem to perform near on par with the 5000 series . . . adn the scaling from 360 to the 380 doesn't look like much of a gain . . . I get the impression the GTX3xx series will be running neck and neck with the 5000 series . . . doesn't appear like there will be too much of a real performance gain over ATI's hardware.

If this does turn out to be true, hopefully the pricing game will be much closer, which will really benefit us consumers.
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It's marketing guff - end of. It's when the card gets reviewed that I'll be interested.

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What he said.

I never take any notice of PR releases. EVER. each camp uses it's own method to make theirs look better.

Truth be told though, Nvidia will most likely take the crown again, but WILL be the more expensive card.
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Well, not to get too wrapped up with any supposed controversy . . . I'll wait until TPUs reviews are up to draw solid concclusions.


THe one thing that has perked my interest, though, is the resolutions the've used for the slides . . .

Taking a grain of salt that nVidia more than likely hand-picked any results to show in their favor (like all companies are good about doing), and the fact that at 1920x1200 they seem to perform near on par with the 5000 series . . . adn the scaling from 360 to the 380 doesn't look like much of a gain . . . I get the impression the GTX3xx series will be running neck and neck with the 5000 series . . . doesn't appear like there will be too much of a real performance gain over ATI's hardware.

If this does turn out to be true, hopefully the pricing game will be much closer, which will really benefit us consumers.
I agree. But half the fun of TPU is wild speculation and baseless facts.
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I agree. But half the fun of TPU is wild speculation and baseless facts.
Yeah . . . we got that down to an art form at this point.

Just to let y'all know - I personally predict the GTX 300 series to be capable of solving world hunger, ending the fighting in the Middle East, and can launch the space shuttle all at the same time.
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I think its time to buy some amd stock ;]
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With 11 posts how do we know your not a troller here who is an ATI fanboy?

You seem pretty set on these being fakes when practically everyone here knows PR stunts are fakes but you fail to see that people here are telling you the Stalker numbers are true.

And with a GTX280 at those settings i did get around 44fps avg. As to the only DX10 question, you cant add DX11 percentages when you want to compare them to other DX10 cards. So you use DX10 games. Thats pretty simple to figure out, but since your such a PR genious im guessing you already figured that out?

Edit: Post fail, i forgot this had 3 pages
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Wrong. Some LCDs can do 240. It also depends on the resolution.
And you brain would not differ between 50 and 60 FPS (only effect of luminiscent lamps makes some difference).
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And you brain would not differ between 50 and 60 FPS (only effect of luminiscent lamps makes some difference).
Maybe yours cant but mine can.
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Old Dec 14, 2009, 07:30 PM   #116
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Nerd response: I guess that guy doesn't understand that all people are genetically unique, and conditioning can even accelerate visual comprehension.
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Its just the old dead horse of "How many FPS can the human eye see".
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I wonder how much this beast can help Folding@Home...
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someone dig up that thread we had going a couple months ago about how many fps the eye and brain can see
somewhere in there was proof that the human eye/brain combo(or whatever u want to call it) could register 200fps+, and used some USAF pilot testing as evidence
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someone dig up that thread we had going a couple months ago about how many fps the eye and brain can see
somewhere in there was proof that the human eye/brain combo(or whatever u want to call it) could register 200fps+, and used some USAF pilot testing as evidence
Or we could get back on topic. Both are great options.

+1 F@H benchmarks. The fake ones released a month back were totally disappointing. I hate 73h liarz!
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ATI will just lower their prices and once again be the better deal... Nvidia shoot themselves in the foot everytime with having high prices... If the prices were low like ATI I'd consider getting a fermi based card.
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ok, i agree that nvidia cards are more expensive but, current generation to current generation, nvidia consistantly has outperformed ati, justifing the higher prices.
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Really hard to believe this nvidia statement now..

it takes a couple of hours to meld a cooler on a PCB and cut it.. it takes a couple of minutes to think of numbers and make a graph.

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ATI will just lower their prices and once again be the better deal... Nvidia shoot themselves in the foot everytime with having high prices...
myeah.. welcome to competition 101 -_-
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